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4/28/2012 7:03:05 AM EDT
anyone do it?

ive read reviews from it sucks to its awesome. so IDK what to think.

i usually just grab chicken strips or a  burger(flame broiled not greasy)  for lunch every day

i never eat breakfast. and dinner is usually anything from fast food to a sit down sometime home cooked but not too often..  i work in a metal shop all day and am usually beat at the end of the day , and the last thing i wanna do is slave over a kitchen after a hard day at work(sometimes i wish i had an office job or a wife)...

so has anyone done it?  how did you like it? did you lose enough weight to make the cost worth it?
4/28/2012 7:18:50 AM EDT
[#1]
Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".
4/28/2012 7:51:20 AM EDT
[#2]
Here is something even better...

Stop eating shit food.

It really doesn't take that much effort or time to grill or bake some batches ofsteak or chicken and cook up some veggies. It's cheaper too.

Nurtisystem is not a long term solution.

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4/28/2012 8:01:02 AM EDT
[#3]
The girlfriend tried it for about a week last year. MRE's taste like something from a high end restaurant compared to the Nutrasystem stuff I tried.  Just eat right and run a lot.
4/28/2012 8:01:22 AM EDT
[#4]
You don't eat breakfast? How can you live like that?
4/28/2012 8:06:13 AM EDT
[#5]
Eat more chicken, eat less grains/carbs.

It's worked for me.
4/28/2012 8:06:56 AM EDT
[#6]
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Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".


Arf fad diet. Don't eat shit or more than you need. I've lost 50 lbs in the past 9-12 months and have trouble holding healthy weight. I still eat grains, starch and sugar. Fast food is shit. Anything marketed as diet ,low carb, low fat ,low sugar or healthy is shit. Low sodium not so much but check the label. If the ingredient list is longer than the declaration of independence and includes partial or hydrogenated it is shit. If it is fried then don't eat it. Speaking of fried oils change with heat. Don't be afraid of fiber.

If you want to know why you are fat join here and take the time to log and weigh your foods. Then adjust accordingly.
4/28/2012 8:09:58 AM EDT
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Don't eat shit or more than you need.


This, is the easiest, and best way to lose weight.

Just make sure to combine some type of resistance training to help minimize muscle loss.
4/28/2012 8:16:56 AM EDT
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Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".






Arf fad diet. Don't eat shit or more than you need. I've lost 50 lbs in the past 9-12 months and have trouble holding healthy weight. Fast food is shit. Anything marketed as diet ,low carb, low fat ,low sugar or healthy is shit. Low sodium not so much but check the label. If the ingredient list is longer than the declaration of independence and includes partial or hydrogenated it is shit. If it is fried then don't eat it. Speaking of fried oils change with heat.





If you want to know why you are fat join here and take the time to log and weigh your foods. Then adjust accordingly.





Damn bud, that is one of the dumbest posts I've seen on arfcom in a long while.





Paleo isn't low carb.  It's low refined carb.  That makes it easy for most folks to make good choices.  If you haven't figured it out, most "healthy" diets are low GI (this includes low carb and high carb/low fat).  Paleo is just an easy way to maintain low GI for folks who don't want or don't need to weigh food.





Low sugar is always a good idea.  Where on earth are you getting your facts from?





Honestly, man... if you have no clue what you are talking about, just shut your silly cake hole before you make a fool of yourself.  




EDIT:  The more I thought about this, the more it looks like it's meant to be a personal attack and it's not.  When people lose weight once they tend to think they have the answer for everyone.  When people lose weight for the 15th time, they tend to figure out there is more to nutrition than simple calories in vs calories out.  It's about goals, what you want to achieve, and what you are willing to lose.



––-most folks doing paleo want to be fit.  That means lose weight with a minimum of muscle loss while trimming down.  Paleo (not low carb) or the BB version of low carb (might as well be paleo) is perfect to keep catabolism to an absolute minimum.  



Anyone can lose weight.  For some it's a matter of starvation and calorie counting.  As far as long term solutions or actually being fit goes, it's a poor way to handle it.  
 
4/28/2012 9:37:22 AM EDT
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Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".


Arf fad diet. Don't eat shit or more than you need. I've lost 50 lbs in the past 9-12 months and have trouble holding healthy weight. Fast food is shit. Anything marketed as diet ,low carb, low fat ,low sugar or healthy is shit. Low sodium not so much but check the label. If the ingredient list is longer than the declaration of independence and includes partial or hydrogenated it is shit. If it is fried then don't eat it. Speaking of fried oils change with heat.

If you want to know why you are fat join here and take the time to log and weigh your foods. Then adjust accordingly.

Damn bud, that is one of the dumbest posts I've seen on arfcom in a long while.

Paleo isn't low carb.  It's low refined carb.  That makes it easy for most folks to make good choices.  If you haven't figured it out, most "healthy" diets are low GI (this includes low carb and high carb/low fat).  Paleo is just an easy way to maintain low GI for folks who don't want or don't need to weigh food.

Low sugar is always a good idea.  Where on earth are you getting your facts from?

Honestly, man... if you have no clue what you are talking about, just shut your silly cake hole before you make a fool of yourself.  

EDIT: The more I thought about this, the more it looks like it's meant to be a personal attack and it's not. When people lose weight once they tend to think they have the answer for everyone. When people lose weight for the 15th time, they tend to figure out there is more to nutrition than simple calories in vs calories out. It's about goals, what you want to achieve, and what you are willing to lose.

––-most folks doing paleo want to be fit. That means lose weight with a minimum of muscle loss while trimming down. Paleo (not low carb) or the BB version of low carb (might as well be paleo) is perfect to keep catabolism to an absolute minimum.

Anyone can lose weight. For some it's a matter of starvation and calorie counting. As far as long term solutions or actually being fit goes, it's a poor way to handle it.




 


I get my facts from the internet like everyone else. Ok i checked out a couple books from the library but it was under a fake name and i burned the card. I've still lost 50 pounds this year without cutting much in sugar and actually adding in the carb area.

Again i say track and be honest with what your eat and go from there. When your normal breakfast on the way to work (should i mention weekend?)has more bad shit in it than you should ingest for the day or week then it will become clear why you are overweight and have health issues. No need for diet fads. Read the labels.

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After edit:

Was a board attack.

I've never been able to build much muscle mass but the fat started building in my 20's. No need to starve just look closer at what you eat. Although if i eat unhealthy the next day is light but packed with fruits and veggies.


4/28/2012 9:39:42 AM EDT
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Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".


Meatza is fucking awesome.

I also agree with the paleo ideas.  Works great.
4/28/2012 9:41:44 AM EDT
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Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".


Arf fad diet. Don't eat shit or more than you need. I've lost 50 lbs in the past 9-12 months and have trouble holding healthy weight. Fast food is shit. Anything marketed as diet ,low carb, low fat ,low sugar or healthy is shit. Low sodium not so much but check the label. If the ingredient list is longer than the declaration of independence and includes partial or hydrogenated it is shit. If it is fried then don't eat it. Speaking of fried oils change with heat.

If you want to know why you are fat join here and take the time to log and weigh your foods. Then adjust accordingly.

Damn bud, that is one of the dumbest posts I've seen on arfcom in a long while.

Paleo isn't low carb.  It's low refined carb.  That makes it easy for most folks to make good choices.  If you haven't figured it out, most "healthy" diets are low GI (this includes low carb and high carb/low fat).  Paleo is just an easy way to maintain low GI for folks who don't want or don't need to weigh food.

Low sugar is always a good idea.  Where on earth are you getting your facts from?

Honestly, man... if you have no clue what you are talking about, just shut your silly cake hole before you make a fool of yourself.  


 


I get my facts from the internet like everyone else. Ok i checked out a couple books from the library but it was under a fake name and i burned the card. I've still lost 50 pounds this year without cutting much in sugar and actually adding in the carb area.

Again i say track and be honest with what your eat and go from there. When your normal breakfast on the way to work (should i mention weekend?)has more bad shit in it than you should ingest for the day or week then it will become clear why you are overweight and have health issues. No need for diet fads. Read the labels .


You do realize that is a paleo mindset don't you?
4/28/2012 9:46:42 AM EDT
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Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".


Arf fad diet. Don't eat shit or more than you need. I've lost 50 lbs in the past 9-12 months and have trouble holding healthy weight. Fast food is shit. Anything marketed as diet ,low carb, low fat ,low sugar or healthy is shit. Low sodium not so much but check the label. If the ingredient list is longer than the declaration of independence and includes partial or hydrogenated it is shit. If it is fried then don't eat it. Speaking of fried oils change with heat.

If you want to know why you are fat join here and take the time to log and weigh your foods. Then adjust accordingly.

Damn bud, that is one of the dumbest posts I've seen on arfcom in a long while.

Paleo isn't low carb.  It's low refined carb.  That makes it easy for most folks to make good choices.  If you haven't figured it out, most "healthy" diets are low GI (this includes low carb and high carb/low fat).  Paleo is just an easy way to maintain low GI for folks who don't want or don't need to weigh food.

Low sugar is always a good idea.  Where on earth are you getting your facts from?

Honestly, man... if you have no clue what you are talking about, just shut your silly cake hole before you make a fool of yourself.  

EDIT:  The more I thought about this, the more it looks like it's meant to be a personal attack and it's not.  When people lose weight once they tend to think they have the answer for everyone.  When people lose weight for the 15th time, they tend to figure out there is more to nutrition than simple calories in vs calories out.  It's about goals, what you want to achieve, and what you are willing to lose.

––-most folks doing paleo want to be fit.  That means lose weight with a minimum of muscle loss while trimming down.  Paleo (not low carb) or the BB version of low carb (might as well be paleo) is perfect to keep catabolism to an absolute minimum.  

Anyone can lose weight.  For some it's a matter of starvation and calorie counting.  As far as long term solutions or actually being fit goes, it's a poor way to handle it.  

 


+1

Dropped 40lbs in 90 days doing Paleo. Feel better, off caffeine and sleep better. Blood pressure is down.. Easy and sustainable. Doesn't get much better.

Edit: no logging of food, no hunger and no potion control. Did I mention this diet is fuckin awesome?

Here toy go.


Edit #2: only in the 21st century can limiting your diet to unprocessed meats, vegetables, fruit, nuts and water be considered a fad diet.
4/28/2012 9:49:54 AM EDT
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Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".


First post nails it.

Read up on the paleo diet.  Control your portions and eat clean.  Your body will thank you.
4/28/2012 10:05:56 AM EDT
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Edit #2: only in the 21st century can limiting your diet to unprocessed meats, vegetables, fruit, nuts and water be considered a fad diet.


Most of us aren't hating on grains ,dairy, potatoes, ribs ,honey and mother fucking BACON . Explain that?
4/28/2012 10:15:09 AM EDT
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Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".


I hear that alcohol is a no-no on the paleo diet. That pretty much leaves me out...

4/28/2012 10:15:48 AM EDT
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Edit #2: only in the 21st century can limiting your diet to unprocessed meats, vegetables, fruit, nuts and water be considered a fad diet.


Most of us aren't hating on grains ,dairy, potatoes, ribs ,honey and mother fucking BACON . Explain that?


I eat uncured bacon twice a week, raw honey is fine in limited amounts and sweet potatoes are good to go.

The ribs, depending on what sauce you use is fine on paleo. The rest of that stuff serves no real nutritional purpose, especially if your idea of grains means dinner rolls and tortilla chips. You can get vitamin d and calcium through a dozen other channels. If you like dairy and bread, then eat the shit out of it. It's no skin off my sack, but calling eating nothing but nutritionally dense, unprocessed food is far from a fad diet.
4/28/2012 10:37:27 AM EDT
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Edit #2: only in the 21st century can limiting your diet to unprocessed meats, vegetables, fruit, nuts and water be considered a fad diet.


Most of us aren't hating on grains ,dairy, potatoes, ribs ,honey and mother fucking BACON . Explain that?


I eat uncured bacon twice a week, raw honey is fine in limited amounts and sweet potatoes are good to go.

The ribs, depending on what sauce you use is fine on paleo. The rest of that stuff serves no real nutritional purpose, especially if your idea of grains means dinner rolls and tortilla chips. You can get vitamin d and calcium through a dozen other channels. If you like dairy and bread, then eat the shit out of it. It's no skin off my sack, but calling eating nothing but nutritionally dense, unprocessed food is far from a fad diet.


Well fatty mcfatterson you are not paleo as the list goes. http://altmed.creighton.edu/Paleodiet/Foodlist.html
Welcome to being normal and trying to eat healthier.

4/28/2012 11:05:20 AM EDT
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Edit #2: only in the 21st century can limiting your diet to unprocessed meats, vegetables, fruit, nuts and water be considered a fad diet.


Most of us aren't hating on grains ,dairy, potatoes, ribs ,honey and mother fucking BACON . Explain that?


I eat uncured bacon twice a week, raw honey is fine in limited amounts and sweet potatoes are good to go.

The ribs, depending on what sauce you use is fine on paleo. The rest of that stuff serves no real nutritional purpose, especially if your idea of grains means dinner rolls and tortilla chips. You can get vitamin d and calcium through a dozen other channels. If you like dairy and bread, then eat the shit out of it. It's no skin off my sack, but calling eating nothing but nutritionally dense, unprocessed food is far from a fad diet.


Well fatty mcfatterson you are not paleo as the list goes. http://altmed.creighton.edu/Paleodiet/Foodlist.html

Welcome to being normal and trying to eat healthier.



Your links broken.

Lemme save you some time. I do my homework. Uncured bacon and raw honey are paleo, regardless of what your random link says. If you got something a little more specific, please feel free to list it.
4/28/2012 11:08:21 AM EDT
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Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".

I hear that alcohol is a no-no on the paleo diet. That pretty much leaves me out...


Red wine is accepted.

I really like this site and I'm not a crossfitter.

Foods that should be eaten in moderation

(not cheats unless in excess)

• Bacon
• Sausage
• Chicken wings
• Ribs
• Canola oil
• Flaxseed oil
• Quinoa
• Dried fruit
• Sweet potatoes
• Coffee
• Red Wine
• Tequila
• Deli meat
4/28/2012 12:02:25 PM EDT
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Edit #2: only in the 21st century can limiting your diet to unprocessed meats, vegetables, fruit, nuts and water be considered a fad diet.


Most of us aren't hating on grains ,dairy, potatoes, ribs ,honey and mother fucking BACON . Explain that?


I eat uncured bacon twice a week, raw honey is fine in limited amounts and sweet potatoes are good to go.

The ribs, depending on what sauce you use is fine on paleo. The rest of that stuff serves no real nutritional purpose, especially if your idea of grains means dinner rolls and tortilla chips. You can get vitamin d and calcium through a dozen other channels. If you like dairy and bread, then eat the shit out of it. It's no skin off my sack, but calling eating nothing but nutritionally dense, unprocessed food is far from a fad diet.


Well fatty mcfatterson you are not paleo as the list goes. http://altmed.creighton.edu/Paleodiet/Foodlist.html

Welcome to being normal and trying to eat healthier.



Your links broken.

Lemme save you some time. I do my homework. Uncured bacon and raw honey are paleo, regardless of what your random link says. If you got something a little more specific, please feel free to list it.


I got nothing. What about this uncured bacon?
Hell i couldn't even find in unprocessed corn last fall. Being paleo i know you wouldn't eat it with all the starch and sugars but don't look for any that is not mechanically or manually separated from the stalk.
4/28/2012 12:29:41 PM EDT
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Edit #2: only in the 21st century can limiting your diet to unprocessed meats, vegetables, fruit, nuts and water be considered a fad diet.


Most of us aren't hating on grains ,dairy, potatoes, ribs ,honey and mother fucking BACON . Explain that?


I eat uncured bacon twice a week, raw honey is fine in limited amounts and sweet potatoes are good to go.

The ribs, depending on what sauce you use is fine on paleo. The rest of that stuff serves no real nutritional purpose, especially if your idea of grains means dinner rolls and tortilla chips. You can get vitamin d and calcium through a dozen other channels. If you like dairy and bread, then eat the shit out of it. It's no skin off my sack, but calling eating nothing but nutritionally dense, unprocessed food is far from a fad diet.


Well fatty mcfatterson you are not paleo as the list goes. http://altmed.creighton.edu/Paleodiet/Foodlist.html

Welcome to being normal and trying to eat healthier.



Your links broken.

Lemme save you some time. I do my homework. Uncured bacon and raw honey are paleo, regardless of what your random link says. If you got something a little more specific, please feel free to list it.


I got nothing. What about this uncured bacon?
Hell i couldn't even find in unprocessed corn last fall. Being paleo i know you wouldn't eat it with all the starch and sugars but don't look for any that is not mechanically or manually separated from the stalk.


Uncured bacon lacks all the chemicals regular bacon contains, which is what paleo is about. Avoiding the chemicals and additives modern processing adds to natural foods. Therefore, uncured is paleo, regular bacon is a no-no.

If you’re talking about the generic types you’ll find at most grocery stores, it’s probably not.  While pork is, of course, Paleo, sodium nitrate, sodium nitrite and many of the other additives that are often used in producing and curing bacon are not.  


That's the thing about paleo, it's not a diet as much as it is an effort to avoid food heavy in chemicals, deficient in nutrients and inflammatory to your body and immune system. That's what I was looking for when I found it. When I had a son old enough to eat regular foods, the ingredients list started to trip me out. The weight loss was just an added benefit.
4/28/2012 12:33:42 PM EDT
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This is where I got my start. Click me

I lost 15lbs, slept better and got off caffeine due to not being tired all the time in the first 30 days and then transitioned into Paleo from there. Piece of cake, metaphorically speaking of course.
4/28/2012 12:34:32 PM EDT
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Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".


4/28/2012 12:35:01 PM EDT
[#24]
Before the "what is/what isn't Paleo" argument reaches critical mass, let me try to articulate one of the common themes in the GD Paleo thread.

Absolutely do not eat wheat.
Absolutely do not eat processed sugar.
Absolutely do not eat vegetable oils like corn oil and soybean oil.

Limit carbohydrates to less than 200 a day.  You won't have to count grams if you just stop eating bread and sugary bullshit.  Coincidentally, the other diets that have varying degrees of success like Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig, and Slim Fast are also low carbohydrate whether they claim the title or not, in that they keep carbs <300 grams a day, compared to the standard American >400.

If you cook your own food from ingredients that your grandmother would recognize and follow the above, you'll not only not have to work to stay thin, you'll avoid heart disease, Alzheimer's, and diabeetus.

It's actually that easy.

4/28/2012 12:38:40 PM EDT
[#25]
It's salty.



Most of the food tastes crappy.




But...... if you do it for a short time, and get a good feel for their portion sizes, you could probably follow their meal plan and re-create it using healthier, less processed ingredients for the "entrees".




It IS pretty easy to follow, and there's good support on their website.
4/28/2012 12:54:16 PM EDT
[#26]
I listened to the arf paleo guys saying no carbs but i wanted ice cream. So i got some with almonds and no carbs cause it's smart.  http://www.breyers.com/product/detail/113879/carbsmart-vanilla-almond-ice-cream-bar
Now can you explain why this little ice cream bar makes a bigmac look nutritional?



4/28/2012 12:56:19 PM EDT
[#27]
Food tastes like shit.  



Eat less, eat less processed, and move more.  


 
4/28/2012 12:57:28 PM EDT
[#28]
I have eliminated pop and sugar from my diet and have gone on the Paleo "diet", and I feel great.
4/28/2012 1:02:29 PM EDT
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I listened to the arf paleo guys saying no carbs but i wanted ice cream. So i got some with almonds and no carbs cause it's smart.  http://www.breyers.com/product/detail/113879/carbsmart-vanilla-almond-ice-cream-bar
Now can you explain why this little ice cream bar makes a bigmac look nutritional?





Ice Cream: Nonfat Milk, Milkfat, Polydextrose, Sorbitol, Fructose, Glycerine, Natural Flavor, Mono- And Diglycerides, Guar Gum, Xanthan Gum, Locust Bean Gum, Cellulose Gel, Cellulose Gum, Polysorbate 80, Sucralose (Splenda® Brand), Acesulfame Potassium Milk Chocolate Flavored Coating: Vegetable Oil (Coconut, Soybean), Sugar, Sodium Caseinate, Calcium Carbonate, Cocoa (Processed With Alkali), Natural And Artificial Flavor, Soy Lecithin, Salt, Sucralose (Splenda® Brand). Almonds: Almonds, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Butter, and Salt


In other words, the only thing in there worth eating is the butter and the salt.  I would add the milk, but I prefer my milkfat in the whole milk it originally came from, pardon the preposition.
4/28/2012 1:03:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Food tastes like it was made with stuff from under your kitchen sink.
 
4/28/2012 1:13:28 PM EDT
[#31]
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I listened to the arf paleo guys saying no carbs but i wanted ice cream. So i got some with almonds and no carbs cause it's smart.  http://www.breyers.com/product/detail/113879/carbsmart-vanilla-almond-ice-cream-bar
Now can you explain why this little ice cream bar makes a bigmac look nutritional?





There are tons of healthy ice cream alternatives out there.  You just can't buy them in a carton at the store.  

4/28/2012 1:27:38 PM EDT
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Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".

I hear that alcohol is a no-no on the paleo diet. That pretty much leaves me out...


Red wine is accepted.

I really like this site and I'm not a crossfitter.

Foods that should be eaten in moderation

(not cheats unless in excess)

• Bacon
• Sausage
• Chicken wings
• Ribs
• Canola oil
• Flaxseed oil
• Quinoa
• Dried fruit
• Sweet potatoes
• Coffee
• Red Wine
• Tequila
• Deli meat


I wonder what is wrong with sweet potatoes?
4/28/2012 1:27:48 PM EDT
[#33]
OK the leanest cheapest way to cut weight healthy.....

White flour, aspartame , refined sugar, hfcs, soy and soy by products, canola, veggie oil since it is often soy/canola mix.  Those are all nutrient time bombs.

Since Jan I have lost 60lbs following that alone,  I have done some added supplements d, b12, etc.  The diet is more an after effect from cooking for my mom with her dietary needs for her recovery and fight with cancer.

4/28/2012 1:30:05 PM EDT
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anyone do it?

ive read reviews from it sucks to its awesome. so IDK what to think.

i usually just grab chicken strips or a  burger(flame broiled not greasy)  for lunch every day

i never eat breakfast. and dinner is usually anything from fast food to a sit down sometime home cooked but not too often..  i work in a metal shop all day and am usually beat at the end of the day , and the last thing i wanna do is slave over a kitchen after a hard day at work(sometimes i wish i had an office job or a wife)...

so has anyone done it?  how did you like it? did you lose enough weight to make the cost worth it?


Have you discussed this with the other women in your knitting circle??

4/28/2012 1:32:34 PM EDT
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I listened to the arf paleo guys saying no carbs but i wanted ice cream. So i got some with almonds and no carbs cause it's smart.  http://www.breyers.com/product/detail/113879/carbsmart-vanilla-almond-ice-cream-bar
Now can you explain why this little ice cream bar makes a bigmac look nutritional?





There are tons of healthy ice cream alternatives out there.  You just can't buy them in a carton at the store.  



Nope even grannys hand crank ingredients are on the do not eat list.

Not to mention that shit takes work so might need a carb boost  depending on how many grandkids .

ETA: I think kids are free from slave labor now so definatly not good for you and banned.
4/28/2012 1:37:08 PM EDT
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I listened to the arf paleo guys saying no carbs but i wanted ice cream. So i got some with almonds and no carbs cause it's smart.  http://www.breyers.com/product/detail/113879/carbsmart-vanilla-almond-ice-cream-bar
Now can you explain why this little ice cream bar makes a bigmac look nutritional?





There are tons of healthy ice cream alternatives out there.  You just can't buy them in a carton at the store.  



Nope even grannys hand crank ingredients are on the do not eat list.

Not to mention that shit takes work so might need a carb boost  depending on how many grandkids .



Listen to the woman.  She knows of that which she speaks.  And look, if you eat right 90% of the month it's fine to have ice cream with the grandkids.  But by "right" I mean OUR right, not the USDAs "right".

4/28/2012 1:47:01 PM EDT
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Expensive fad diet. Go paleo. I lost 30 lbs in 5 months. No special diet or fad just don't eat grains, beans, starch veg, sugar. We have a great thread about it in GD. It is a very easy diet to follow. My favorite recipie is meatza which is a "pizza" that uses a ground beef "crust".

I hear that alcohol is a no-no on the paleo diet. That pretty much leaves me out...


Red wine is accepted.

I really like this site and I'm not a crossfitter.

Foods that should be eaten in moderation

(not cheats unless in excess)

• Bacon                      Nitrates
• Sausage                 See answer above
• Chicken wings        No breading grilled not fried
• Ribs                        Devoid of the stuff you really want, easier to make a bone soup with them.

• Canola oil               Fuck this shit, cut it out and void it all together chances of taking in GMO and other foulness.... To me it is a steer clear of it, mainly used in a hard fry is pointless as all shit along with veggie oil.

• Flaxseed oil            use in moderation, Omega 3/6 fatty acid 2-3 teaspoons max a week but needs a protein binder, can IM me and ill can give ya a great breakfast idea with it.
• Quinoa                    Nope good nutrient based grain, just takes a ton of will power to eat a lot of it, Nutrient dense, just takes a bit to digest but easier than wheat on the guts.  It is an ancient grain used forever and is neutral in flavor.
• Dried fruit                sulfide and sugar free, does not look appealing but decent in moderation,  great when you need a boost.
• Sweet potatoes       Starches, Limit to like maybe once a month, I got an amazing mashed recipe I came up with fiber rich content.
• Coffee                      With the diet cut this to maybe 3/4 of my once normal intake. occurs naturally and you will get the jitters hellishly bad.
• Red Wine                 Sulfides and nitrates with yeast blast a migraine instantly but great anti inflammation reducer.
• Tequila                     Have not touched that swill since the great rum and tequilla black outs of 95
• Deli meat                 Nitrates. processed and smoke.


I wonder what is wrong with sweet potatoes?


4/28/2012 1:48:17 PM EDT
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Here is something even better...

Stop eating shit food.

It really doesn't take that much effort or time to grill or bake some batches ofsteak or chicken and cook up some veggies. It's cheaper too.

Nurtisystem is not a long term solution.

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4/28/2012 2:26:37 PM EDT
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I wonder what is wrong with sweet potatoes?




Nothing, in moderation.
4/28/2012 2:33:17 PM EDT
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I listened to the arf paleo guys saying no carbs but i wanted ice cream. So i got some with almonds and no carbs cause it's smart.  http://www.breyers.com/product/detail/113879/carbsmart-vanilla-almond-ice-cream-bar
Now can you explain why this little ice cream bar makes a bigmac look nutritional?





There are tons of healthy ice cream alternatives out there.  You just can't buy them in a carton at the store.  



Nope even grannys hand crank ingredients are on the do not eat list.

Not to mention that shit takes work so might need a carb boost  depending on how many grandkids .

ETA: I think kids are free from slave labor now so definatly not good for you and banned.


http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-creamy-ice-cream-w-93414

http://paleoliscious.blogspot.com/2011/07/silky-blueberry-ice-cream-paleo-raw.html

http://fastpaleo.com/mint-dark-chocolate-chip-ice-cream/

http://fastpaleo.com/honey-pecan-ice-cream/

I don't know why you think it's so impossible to eat using the Paleo/Primal principles as a guide.  It's AWESOME!  Effortless weight loss, no feelings of deprivation, 100% hunger control, no weighing foods or counting calories or macro nutrients.  It could NOT be any easier unless someone comes up with the miracle weight loss pill that works 100% of the time and with zero side effects and that ain't happening so........
4/28/2012 2:35:05 PM EDT
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I listened to the arf paleo guys saying no carbs but i wanted ice cream. So i got some with almonds and no carbs cause it's smart.  http://www.breyers.com/product/detail/113879/carbsmart-vanilla-almond-ice-cream-bar
Now can you explain why this little ice cream bar makes a bigmac look nutritional?





There are tons of healthy ice cream alternatives out there.  You just can't buy them in a carton at the store.  



Nope even grannys hand crank ingredients are on the do not eat list.

Not to mention that shit takes work so might need a carb boost  depending on how many grandkids .



Listen to the woman.  She knows of that which she speaks.  And look, if you eat right 90% of the month it's fine to have ice cream with the grandkids.  But by "right" I mean OUR right, not the USDAs "right".



And that.  It's not like we *never* eat stuff that isn't great for us.  We just try to keep it in the special treat category, enjoy it while we have it and then move on.
4/28/2012 2:35:36 PM EDT
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Just stop eating so much food...why is that so hard for people to do? you don't need special meals to lose the weight, just some self control.
4/28/2012 4:08:22 PM EDT
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Just stop eating so much food...why is that so hard for people to do? you don't need special meals to lose the weight, just some self control.






For the person who put on a few pounds over vacation, this works.  For some people who've just put a few pounds on over the years, this may work for them too.  For people who can't lose weight no matter how much they starve themselves or work out, this is not true.  Their fatty fat fatness is not because of a lack of willpower, but a product of metabolic dysfunction.





They're not getting fat because they're eating too much.





They're eating too much because they're getting fat.

And if you think that is a small percentage of the population, you'd be wrong.






In the face of contradictory evidence: Report of the Dietary Guidelines for


Americans Committee



Adele H. Hite M.A.T. a, Richard David Feinman Ph.D. b,*, Gabriel E. Guzman Ph.D. c,


Morton Satin M.Sc. d, Pamela A. Schoenfeld R.D. e, Richard J. Wood Ph.D. f


a Department of Nutrition, Gillings School of Global Public Health, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA


b Department of Cell Biology, SUNY Downstate Medical Center, Brooklyn, New York, USA


c Science Department, Triton College, River Grove, Illinois, USA


d Salt Institute, Alexandria, Virginia, USA


e Department of Foods and Nutrition, College of Saint Elizabeth, Morristown, New Jersey, USA


f Exercise Science and Sport Studies Department, Springfield College, Springfield, Massachusetts, USA
A consistent theme in the 2010 DGAC Report is the statement that "very few American children or adults currently follow the


US Dietary Guidelines” (p. D1-8) and that "the primary focus should be on reducing excessive calorie intake” (p. B2-3).


However, according to the DGAC Report, caloric intake remains within recommended levels, and leisure-time physical activity


has increased slightly (pp. D1-1, B2-3). Adult women on average consume at the lowest end of the recommended calorie range


and yet are the most overweight/obese (p. D1-4). The macronutrient proportions of the typical American diet fall within


recommended ranges (p. D1-1)





http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20888548











 
4/28/2012 5:22:44 PM EDT
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I listened to the arf paleo guys saying no carbs but i wanted ice cream. So i got some with almonds and no carbs cause it's smart.  http://www.breyers.com/product/detail/113879/carbsmart-vanilla-almond-ice-cream-bar
Now can you explain why this little ice cream bar makes a bigmac look nutritional?





Because, for the thousandth time, the purpose of paleo is not low carb. You can eat all the low carb ice cream and big macs you want, and you'll get the results of such. If you're fine with that, then be my guest.

Drop your preconceived notion of what you THINK paleo is, and read a little. It's really not that difficult to understand, much less follow.
4/28/2012 5:25:00 PM EDT
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I listened to the arf paleo guys saying no carbs but i wanted ice cream. So i got some with almonds and no carbs cause it's smart.  http://www.breyers.com/product/detail/113879/carbsmart-vanilla-almond-ice-cream-bar
Now can you explain why this little ice cream bar makes a bigmac look nutritional?





Ice Cream: Nonfat Milk, Milkfat, Polydextrose, Sorbitol, Fructose, Glycerine, Natural Flavor, Mono- And Diglycerides, Guar Gum, Xanthan Gum, Locust Bean Gum, Cellulose Gel, Cellulose Gum, Polysorbate 80, Sucralose (Splenda® Brand), Acesulfame Potassium Milk Chocolate Flavored Coating: Vegetable Oil (Coconut, Soybean), Sugar, Sodium Caseinate, Calcium Carbonate, Cocoa (Processed With Alkali), Natural And Artificial Flavor, Soy Lecithin, Salt, Sucralose (Splenda® Brand). Almonds: Almonds, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Butter, and Salt


In other words, the only thing in there worth eating is the butter and the salt.  I would add the milk, but I prefer my milkfat in the whole milk it originally came from, pardon the preposition.


Low carb or not, that's pretty much the absolute antithesis of a paleo food item.
4/28/2012 9:04:21 PM EDT
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I wonder what is wrong with sweet potatoes?




Nothing, in moderation.


This...They are a great food, just don't eat too much.  They still have quite a few carbs, so watch your intake.
4/28/2012 9:40:01 PM EDT
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Sorry to derail the thread, but I'm gonna need a link to the recipe for the Arfcom Meatza (TM)...

ETA:  A ha! Meatza
4/28/2012 9:50:28 PM EDT
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Sorry to derail the thread, but I'm gonna need a link to the recipe for the Arfcom Meatza (TM)...

ETA:  A ha! Meatza


That's a good recipe.  I've used it and it's pretty good.
4/29/2012 2:09:09 AM EDT
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I do not watch my carbs,fats or calorie intake, These are natural occurring carbs, natural fats.  Now For calorie intake when you are balanced you could give a shit about calories.
I have taken a stance most Nutritionist talk out there ass and are MLM scumbags pushing health products that they have a interest in.  And nearly all dietitians loose some sight as to what they should be doing in the advise they give it becomes a one size solution.

So here are some of the tricks I use and picked up.
The no go list...

GMO anything if there is a possible hint of gmo it stays on the shelf.

Canola... they body does not really use this... to much GMO bullshit in it, also for high temp frying that you want to avoid also. Hydrogenated is even worse.

Soy and soy byproducts.. GMO but also unless it is in a fermented state causes estrogen levels to rise in men and some studies have shown an increase in breast cancers risk increase across the board.  now added to just about every god damned thing along with the chemically treated lecithin.  The flavored green teas also need to be avoided since they add a ton of soy by products in it.

Processed, refined or chemically treated ingredients.

Nitrates, a once in a while treat of processed meat is ok in small amounts but in general leave it be.

MSG, learn the alternate listings for this, before anyone says well we have been using for a 100 years... yeah in small amounts but those amounts add the hell up quickly.

Fake sweeteners... also like soy added to tons of stuff and more than you every really want to know and new studies are finding more ill health effects.

The go list.
Olive oil. learn about first cold press and love it! it is the oil of life.

Organic and raw, this is the basic concept.

Natural sugars, in moderation. Love me some honey I have some raw honey that is pretty thick with crystals and love just getting a small piece and letting it melt in the mouth.

Un roasted seeds and nuts, good source of fatty acids and other amino acids.

Fruits, if fresh is not an option the lash frozen is a decent sub.



4/29/2012 3:29:18 AM EDT
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breakfast and lunch is :

in a blender ,12 oz total , equal parts.
raw oats
nuts mixed together , almonds , walnuts, with a few cashews and pistashios ,
dole fruit cup
soy/whey protien
Frozen mixed berries
OJ or some other juice.
sometimes some honey or half a protein bar.

Some times i throw some cofee or 5 hour energy in it in the morning. I have never felt better in years , no more dairy or junky stuff. I have alot of energy for the day as well and losing weight. No ups and downs during the day and mind is clear and not many mood swings. Dinner is always light and usually fish or lean meats . One day a week i will have 1 dinner of what ever i want like pizza or steak or whatever.
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