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4/4/2012 9:27:45 AM EDT
I think I'm fairly smart, but this has eluded me.  So, I thought I'd come to the primary store of knoweldge this side of the universe, GD.  I was heating up my lunch today in a Rubbermaid container, with a lid.  I forgot to lift the corner, so in the middle of heating in the microwave, the container was expanding and the lid popped open..  Once heated, I removed it from the microwave and closed the lid.  While walking back to my desk, the lid and bottom of the container started getting sucked in, until I opened it again and it released.  Why would the lid be pushed out while heating and then sucked in once finished heating?

The food in the container was shrimp, asparagus risotto.  

4/4/2012 9:28:41 AM EDT
[#1]
Really?
 
4/4/2012 9:28:56 AM EDT
[#2]
Google: pressure canning.





Speed


 
4/4/2012 9:29:32 AM EDT
[#3]
Fuckin magnets

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4/4/2012 9:30:20 AM EDT
[#4]
Air expanded when heated, then contracted when cooled.  You let some heated air out when the lid popped open, so there were fewer molecules in the container, thus contracting when cooled.
4/4/2012 9:30:28 AM EDT
[#5]
Did you go to the public schools?
4/4/2012 9:30:51 AM EDT
[#6]
Was your microwave on a treadmill?

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4/4/2012 9:31:23 AM EDT
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4/4/2012 9:31:30 AM EDT
[#8]
In before the magnets.

ETA - shame and failure
4/4/2012 9:31:37 AM EDT
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4/4/2012 9:31:50 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
In before the magnets.


2 minutes late.
4/4/2012 9:32:00 AM EDT
[#11]
Gas expands when heated, contracts when cooled...





How could you not know this? It doesn't exactly require Keith...

4/4/2012 9:32:08 AM EDT
[#12]
Heat it up the air expands.  Let it cool the air contracts.  Close it between those and you get suckage.

Now answer me this.  Put hot liquid in a thermos it keeps it hot, put cold liquid in there it keeps it cold.  How does it know which one?

4/4/2012 9:32:17 AM EDT
[#13]
PV=T
4/4/2012 9:32:42 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
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In before the magnets.


2 minutes late.


That's what I get for trying to be clever.
4/4/2012 9:32:49 AM EDT
[#15]
There are no stupid questions... only stupid people.
 
4/4/2012 9:33:01 AM EDT
[#16]
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Heat it up the air expands.  Let it cool the air contracts.  Close it between those and you get suckage.

Now answer me this.  Put hot liquid in a thermos it keeps it hot, put cold liquid in there it keeps it cold.  How does it know which one?



The small micro controller inside. Duh.
4/4/2012 9:33:16 AM EDT
[#17]
Knowledge about the use of a treadmill along with evidence of the possible presence of magnets (feral or domesticated) is required before we can even begin to address your question.
4/4/2012 9:33:21 AM EDT
[#18]
As it cooled it,.....Really?  Hey wait a minute, I didn't mean to do anything but learn here!
4/4/2012 9:33:43 AM EDT
[#19]
You don't need a smart person to answer that question.
4/4/2012 9:35:21 AM EDT
[#20]
First post.
4/4/2012 9:35:49 AM EDT
[#21]
I came, I saw, I sighed.
4/4/2012 9:36:43 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Did you go to the public schools school ?


fify
4/4/2012 9:37:10 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Heat it up the air expands.  Let it cool the air contracts.  Close it between those and you get suckage.

Now answer me this.  Put hot liquid in a thermos it keeps it hot, put cold liquid in there it keeps it cold.  How does it know which one?



It didn't get sucked in. It got pushed in with barometric pressure @14.7 psi @ sea level.
4/4/2012 9:37:31 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
There are no stupid questions... only stupid people.  


4/4/2012 9:38:15 AM EDT
[#25]





Quoted:



Heat it up the air expands.  Let it cool the air contracts.  Close it between those and you get suckage.





Now answer me this.  Put hot liquid in a thermos it keeps it hot, put cold liquid in there it keeps it cold.  How does it know which one?








Not sure if serious?




 






Both scenarios are heat transfer, it's just a matter of direction.  The vacuum between the inner and outer walls minimizes air molecules which could conduct heat energy into OR out of the inner chamber.

 
4/4/2012 9:38:19 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Did you go to the public schools?


I did.  I knew it had something to do with heating and cooling, I just didn't know it would be that dramatic.    

Yes, I am a tard sometimes.
4/4/2012 9:38:27 AM EDT
[#27]
Changes in brownian motion and the number of impacts of gas molecules against the sides of the container explain everything.

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I think I'm fairly smart, but this has eluded me.  So, I thought I'd come to the primary store of knoweldge this side of the universe, GD.  I was heating up my lunch today in a Rubbermaid container, with a lid.  I forgot to lift the corner, so in the middle of heating in the microwave, the container was expanding and the lid popped open..  Once heated, I removed it from the microwave and closed the lid.  While walking back to my desk, the lid and bottom of the container started getting sucked in, until I opened it again and it released.  Why would the lid be pushed out while heating and then sucked in once finished heating?

The food in the container was shrimp, asparagus risotto.  



4/4/2012 9:38:34 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
I think I'm fairly smart  



The equipment you used in your evaluation may not have been up to the task.

4/4/2012 9:38:42 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Gas expands when heated, contracts when cooled...

How could you not know this? It doesn't exactly require Keith...


4/4/2012 9:39:18 AM EDT
[#30]
pV=k



Boyle's Law.
4/4/2012 9:40:09 AM EDT
[#31]
I work in financial markets and rarely even think about this sort of thing.  Obviously, I should have thought about it a few more seconds, because after the first response, it is obvious.   Feel free to ban me Aimless.  Tard OP is a tard
4/4/2012 9:40:13 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Really?  


First post nailed it.

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4/4/2012 9:40:57 AM EDT
[#33]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Did you go to the public schools?




I did.  I knew it had something to do with heating and cooling, I just didn't know it would be that dramatic.    



Yes, I am a tard sometimes.


PM me for a neat trick with a milk bottle, a match, and your dick!

 
4/4/2012 9:41:33 AM EDT
[#34]
Probably oughta nuke it from orbit just to be sure.
4/4/2012 9:42:31 AM EDT
[#35]
"Fairly smart" indeed.
4/4/2012 9:43:45 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Did you go to the public schools?


I did.  I knew it had something to do with heating and cooling, I just didn't know it would be that dramatic.    

Yes, I am a tard sometimes.

PM me for a neat trick with a milk bottle, a match, and your dick!  


I rost!



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4/4/2012 9:44:41 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Did you go to the public schools?


I did.  I knew it had something to do with heating and cooling, I just didn't know it would be that dramatic.    

Yes, I am a tard sometimes.

PM me for a neat trick with a milk bottle, a match, and your dick!  


IM with pics inbound.
4/4/2012 9:44:43 AM EDT
[#38]
Aight serious answer, FWIW.

When it heated, the air expanded, causing an increase in pressure which resulted in the lid popping off as you observed. When you put the lid on, there was the same volume as before, but less mass because it was at a higher temperature. when it cooled, air contracted, resulting in decreased pressure. This created a pressure differential between the inside and outside of the container, so the outside atmosphere pushed in on the container, decreasing it's volume until the pressure inside the container was roughly equal to the pressure outside of the container, along with any resistance offered by the plastic container.
4/4/2012 9:46:20 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
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Did you go to the public schools?


I did.  I knew it had something to do with heating and cooling, I just didn't know it would be that dramatic.    

Yes, I am a tard sometimes.


It can be quite dramatic indeed.

4/4/2012 9:46:31 AM EDT
[#40]
No one's posted the 55gal drum experiment with the HS kids yet?



ETA: There it is...posted while I was posting

4/4/2012 9:47:24 AM EDT
[#41]



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Quoted:

Did you go to the public schools?




I did.  I knew it had something to do with heating and cooling, I just didn't know it would be that dramatic.    



Yes, I am a tard sometimes.


PM me for a neat trick with a milk bottle, a match, and your dick!  




IM with pics inbound.


Alright, change of plans.  Got an old glass coke bottle?

 
4/4/2012 9:48:43 AM EDT
[#42]
Pics or
4/4/2012 9:49:28 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:

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Quoted:
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Did you go to the public schools?


I did.  I knew it had something to do with heating and cooling, I just didn't know it would be that dramatic.    

Yes, I am a tard sometimes.

PM me for a neat trick with a milk bottle, a match, and your dick!  


IM with pics inbound.

Alright, change of plans.  Got an old glass coke bottle?  


. That was good.
4/4/2012 9:49:49 AM EDT
[#44]
Well, obviously, your food is still breathing.
4/4/2012 9:50:58 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Aight serious answer, FWIW.

When it heated, the air expanded, causing an increase in pressure which resulted in the lid popping off as you observed. When you put the lid on, there was the same volume as before, but less mass because it was at a higher temperature. when it cooled, air contracted, resulting in decreased pressure. This created a pressure differential between the inside and outside of the container, so the outside atmosphere pushed in on the container, decreasing it's volume until the pressure inside the container was roughly equal to the pressure outside of the container, along with any resistance offered by the plastic container.


So I think you're saying its kind of like my sack.  When its warm outside it expands, but contracts when I get I cold water.  It all makes sense now.
4/4/2012 9:52:10 AM EDT
[#46]
PV=nRT

...or one of its derivatives or related equations.

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4/4/2012 10:04:56 AM EDT
[#47]
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Did you go to the public schools?


I did.  I knew it had something to do with heating and cooling, I just didn't know it would be that dramatic.    

Yes, I am a tard sometimes.

PM me for a neat trick with a milk bottle, a match, and your dick!  


IM with pics inbound.

Alright, change of plans.  Got an old glass coke bottle?  


I saw a guy extract all the crap from a HUGE ingrown hair on his chest caused by shoulder pads rubbing it. Stuck the bottle in boiling water until it was hot, Then stuck the mouth of the bottle on the hair and poured cold water over the towel around the bottle. That shit exploded into the bottle. NASTY!
4/4/2012 10:09:37 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
PV=T


PV=nrT
4/4/2012 10:15:46 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Did you go to the public schools?


I did.  I knew it had something to do with heating and cooling, I just didn't know it would be that dramatic.    

Yes, I am a tard sometimes.

PM me for a neat trick with a milk bottle, a match, and your dick!  


Awesome
4/4/2012 10:34:07 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
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Quoted:
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Did you go to the public schools?


I did.  I knew it had something to do with heating and cooling, I just didn't know it would be that dramatic.    

Yes, I am a tard sometimes.

PM me for a neat trick with a milk bottle, a match, and your dick!  


IM with pics inbound.

Alright, change of plans.  Got an old glass coke bottle?  


I saw a guy extract all the crap from a HUGE ingrown hair on his chest caused by shoulder pads rubbing it. Stuck the bottle in boiling water until it was hot, Then stuck the mouth of the bottle on the hair and poured cold water over the towel around the bottle. That shit exploded into the bottle. NASTY!


Kinda cool.  Should have videoed it and put it on youtube.
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