Posted: 3/30/2012 9:31:52 PM EDT
| Watching Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves ..... Guerrilla Warfare at its earliest |
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The original socialist. Robbing from the government to return tax money to the people it was taken from? If you say so. Rob from the rich to give to the poor...? The original fought against an over bearing/taxing government, then the tale got corrupted into robbing from the rich to give to the poor. Unless I'm mistake, which happens a lot  ,
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Fuck Robin Hood.
Ragnar Danneskjold: "But I’ve chosen a special mission of my own. I’m after a man whom I want to destroy. He died many centuries ago, but until the last trace of him is wiped out of men’s minds, we will not have a decent world to live in." Hank Rearden: "What man?" Ragnar: "Robin Hood." Ragnar: ". . . [Robin Hood] is not remembered as a champion of property, but as a champion of need, not as a defender of the robbed, but as a provider of the poor. He is held to be the first man who assumed a halo of virtue by practicing charity with wealth which he did not own, by giving away goods which he had not produced, by making others pay for the luxury of his pity. He is the man who became a symbol of the idea that need, not achievement, is the source of rights, that we don’t have to produce, only to want, that the earned does not belong to us, but the unearned does. He became a justification for every mediocrity who, unable to make his own living, had demanded the power to dispose of the property of his betters, by proclaiming his willingness to devote his life to his inferiors at the price of robbing his superiors. It is this foulest of creatures – the double-parasite who lives on the sores of the poor and the blood of the rich – whom men have come to regard as the moral idea." ". . . Do you wonder why the world is collapsing around us? That is what I am fighting, Mr. Rearden. Until men learn that of all human symbols, Robin Hood is the most immoral and the most contemptible, there will be no justice on earth and no way for mankind to survive." The Pirate Ragnar Danneskjöld From Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged |
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Fuck Robin Hood. Ragnar Danneskjold: "But I’ve chosen a special mission of my own. I’m after a man whom I want to destroy. He died many centuries ago, but until the last trace of him is wiped out of men’s minds, we will not have a decent world to live in." Hank Rearden: "What man?" Ragnar: "Robin Hood." Ragnar: ". . . [Robin Hood] is not remembered as a champion of property, but as a champion of need, not as a defender of the robbed, but as a provider of the poor. He is held to be the first man who assumed a halo of virtue by practicing charity with wealth which he did not own, by giving away goods which he had not produced, by making others pay for the luxury of his pity. He is the man who became a symbol of the idea that need, not achievement, is the source of rights, that we don’t have to produce, only to want, that the earned does not belong to us, but the unearned does. He became a justification for every mediocrity who, unable to make his own living, had demanded the power to dispose of the property of his betters, by proclaiming his willingness to devote his life to his inferiors at the price of robbing his superiors. It is this foulest of creatures – the double-parasite who lives on the sores of the poor and the blood of the rich – whom men have come to regard as the moral idea." ". . . Do you wonder why the world is collapsing around us? That is what I am fighting, Mr. Rearden. Until men learn that of all human symbols, Robin Hood is the most immoral and the most contemptible, there will be no justice on earth and no way for mankind to survive." The Pirate Ragnar Danneskjöld From Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged See, this is one area which I kinda disagree with Rand. Most interpretations of the Robin Hood myth don't really seem to place a lot of emphasis on the fact that in that time, the rich got that way by exploiting the shit out of the poor. The feudal system was full of exploitation almost to the point of slavery. The rich and the nobles lorded over the poor and taxed away the things they produced. So in that respect, Robin Hood wasn't one to frown on. |
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The original socialist. Not really a fair comparison. Capitalism didn't exist back then. Not really like in the way we think of it, today. You had most people who were, pretty much Slaves. We work more, and pay more taxes than a medieval peasant. |
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As fun as that movie was to me, as a kid, I can't help but laugh like a tickled monkey whenever I see it. Oh look, Kevin Costner is at the White Cliffs of Dover. Wait! Now he's mincing around at Hadrian's Wall! Oh shit, you've just walked hundreds of miles, and gone too far north, to the Scottish border! Better get your sorry ass back down south.  |
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Quoted: As fun as that movie was to me, as a kid, I can't help but laugh like a tickled monkey whenever I see it. Oh look, Kevin Costner is at the White Cliffs of Dover. Wait! Now he's mincing around at Hadrian's Wall! Oh shit, you've just walked hundreds of miles, and gone too far north, to the Scottish border! Better get your sorry ass back down south. That's how you know Robin Hood is a bad motherfucker. He can walk hundreds of miles in a single day and still find time to introduce the American accent to England. |
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Quoted: As fun as that movie was to me, as a kid, I can't help but laugh like a tickled monkey whenever I see it. Oh look, Kevin Costner is at the White Cliffs of Dover. Wait! Now he's mincing around at Hadrian's Wall! Oh shit, you've just walked hundreds of miles, and gone too far north, to the Scottish border! Better get your sorry ass back down south. LOL, I would like to see Hadrian's wall in real life |
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Quoted: That's how you know Robin Hood is a bad motherfucker. He can walk hundreds of miles in a single day and still find time to introduce the American accent to England. That's another thing that makes me laugh, but I can actually understand why. Better to just stick with his own accent, than try to reproduce what he thinks is a British one, and end up sounding even more silly. Quoted: LOL, I would like to see Hadrian's wall in real life You should go to Newcastle and Scotland then, for the big-breasted young women that wear practically nothing to the pubs and clubs (even in winter), and look around Northumberland/Cumbria as a whole, if you like scenic countryside walks and camping. |
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That's how you know Robin Hood is a bad motherfucker. He can walk hundreds of miles in a single day and still find time to introduce the American accent to England. That's another thing that makes me laugh, but I can actually understand why. Better to just stick with his own accent, than try to reproduce what he thinks is a British one, and end up sounding even more silly.
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LOL, I would like to see Hadrian's wall in real life You should go to Newcastle and Scotland then, for the big-breasted young women that wear practically nothing to the pubs and clubs (even in winter), and look around Northumberland/Cumbria as a whole, if you like scenic countryside walks and camping.
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Quoted: Quoted: Pics??? Here's an example. Nice comments on that one: How else are you going to be able to tell Northern men and women apart other than by clearly seeing their genitalia? - Mike, London, 04/12/2010 01:56 |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Pics??? Here's an example. The first pic is the second is Daaaaaaaaaaamn at the first pic And I think I see Smeagle in drag on the far right in the second pic  |
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Quoted: Quoted: How about this Geordie girl?The first pic is the second is  She is gorgeousI can listen to her talk for ever. Love that accent, soooo hot |
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I think "steal from the rich to give to the poor" is a modern convenient expression. By all accounts he wasn't trying to redistribute wealth, he was trying to cut the local landholders off from their source of wealth and established a moral selectivity when determining targets. There is a very interesting school of thought that, while "Robin Hood" as a person might have been a more generic or gestalt creation, the stories could well have been built up over the exploits of real people. Specific elements - he is depicted as being a trained and experienced fighter, well educated, pious with an understanding of (and connections to) the banking industry (even going so as to organise a loan and assisting a poor knight in recovering debts in one of the oldest known Robin Hood stories) - seem unusual for a mere peasant and may be traits from a specific person. But what kind of person would have this kind of background but be putting themselves forward as a mere yeoman? Historians have placed the key tales of Robin Hood as occuring during the reign of one of the kings called Edward, with some suggesting it might be Edward II. Interestingly enough, King Edward II was on the throne during the dissolution of the Knights Templar. He, like his father Edward I, was very sympathetic towards the Knights and had tried to shield them. When his hand was finally forced, he implemented the arrests in such a way that many of the Knights were able to avoid capture, leaving only a handful to be actually arrested. Our mythical Robin Hood - trained and experienced fighter, well educated, pious with a grounding in finance and economics in evidence throughout the stories - may well have been influenced by the Knights who were fleeing from the authorities at the time. Or maybe not. Who knows. Richard I (the "Lionheart") had feck all to do with it, however, no matter what Kevin "the polar bear" Costner's version says! |
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Fuck Robin Hood. Ragnar Danneskjold: "But I’ve chosen a special mission of my own. I’m after a man whom I want to destroy. He died many centuries ago, but until the last trace of him is wiped out of men’s minds, we will not have a decent world to live in." Hank Rearden: "What man?" Ragnar: "Robin Hood." Ragnar: ". . . [Robin Hood] is not remembered as a champion of property, but as a champion of need, not as a defender of the robbed, but as a provider of the poor. He is held to be the first man who assumed a halo of virtue by practicing charity with wealth which he did not own, by giving away goods which he had not produced, by making others pay for the luxury of his pity. He is the man who became a symbol of the idea that need, not achievement, is the source of rights, that we don’t have to produce, only to want, that the earned does not belong to us, but the unearned does. He became a justification for every mediocrity who, unable to make his own living, had demanded the power to dispose of the property of his betters, by proclaiming his willingness to devote his life to his inferiors at the price of robbing his superiors. It is this foulest of creatures – the double-parasite who lives on the sores of the poor and the blood of the rich – whom men have come to regard as the moral idea." ". . . Do you wonder why the world is collapsing around us? That is what I am fighting, Mr. Rearden. Until men learn that of all human symbols, Robin Hood is the most immoral and the most contemptible, there will be no justice on earth and no way for mankind to survive." The Pirate Ragnar Danneskjöld From Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged See, this is one area which I kinda disagree with Rand. Most interpretations of the Robin Hood myth don't really seem to place a lot of emphasis on the fact that in that time, the rich got that way by exploiting the shit out of the poor. The feudal system was full of exploitation almost to the point of slavery. The rich and the nobles lorded over the poor and taxed away the things they produced. So in that respect, Robin Hood wasn't one to frown on. Senor Quigley is dead on accurate. Pun intended.
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