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1/30/2012 8:00:38 AM EDT




1/30/2012 8:01:37 AM EDT
[#1]




Too expensive to shoot like that.
1/30/2012 8:02:46 AM EDT
[#2]
you should watch paintball players
1/30/2012 8:03:46 AM EDT
[#3]
not impressed.
1/30/2012 8:06:07 AM EDT
[#4]
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you should watch paintball players


Don't they typically use a 2 finger trigger for faster trigger pulls?
1/30/2012 8:08:51 AM EDT
[#5]
Someone needs to tell the girly man in the vid that the only civilians who wear beards are hipsters and gays.  
1/30/2012 8:10:24 AM EDT
[#6]
1/30/2012 8:12:15 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
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you should watch paintball players


Don't they typically use a 2 finger trigger for faster trigger pulls?


It isn't the double trigger that makes a PB gun fast.  It is the fact that the trigger is electronic (either on, or off), rather than mechanical.  When I played PB, I could shoot around 6/second with a manual trigger.  The bolt cycling back and forth had enough vibration that if I held the trigger just right, the gun would shoot itself.  (apparently that is not illegal in PB).  The longer trigger just allows a more natural movement of the first two fingers, rather than just one....and you can double the speed by alternating fingers...but that wasn't my preferred method).  I liked the bumpfire concept.
1/30/2012 8:15:10 AM EDT
[#8]
But can he do it underwater?
1/30/2012 8:35:25 AM EDT
[#9]
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Someone needs to tell the girly man in the vid that the only civilians who wear beards are hipsters and gays.  




Says the guy with the Civic.

1/30/2012 8:52:10 AM EDT
[#10]



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you should watch paintball players




Don't they typically use a 2 finger trigger for faster trigger pulls?




It isn't the double trigger that makes a PB gun fast.  It is the fact that the trigger is electronic (either on, or off), rather than mechanical.  When I played PB, I could shoot around 6/second with a manual trigger.  The bolt cycling back and forth had enough vibration that if I held the trigger just right, the gun would shoot itself.  (apparently that is not illegal in PB).  The longer trigger just allows a more natural movement of the first two fingers, rather than just one....and you can double the speed by alternating fingers...but that wasn't my preferred method).  I liked the bumpfire concept.


Yep. Generally the only resistance on the trigger is the switch itself, and occasionally magnets or springs which the player will end up removing.



You can usually shoot well over 10bps with electronic markers in semi auto, and ramping (The electronic board "ramps" up the balls per second shot, resulting in a higher rate of fire than you are actually shooting) had become much more common in the days when I was just getting out of it.




Last I heard, tournament ball had a bunch of new rules being put in place regarding ROF, and the nppl was in trouble.
1/30/2012 9:00:14 AM EDT
[#11]
He's bump firing. It's just barely bouncing off his shoulder.
1/30/2012 9:02:18 AM EDT
[#12]
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you should watch paintball players


Don't they typically use a 2 finger trigger for faster trigger pulls?


It isn't the double trigger that makes a PB gun fast.  It is the fact that the trigger is electronic (either on, or off), rather than mechanical.  When I played PB, I could shoot around 6/second with a manual trigger.  The bolt cycling back and forth had enough vibration that if I held the trigger just right, the gun would shoot itself.  (apparently that is not illegal in PB).  The longer trigger just allows a more natural movement of the first two fingers, rather than just one....and you can double the speed by alternating fingers...but that wasn't my preferred method).  I liked the bumpfire concept.

Yep. Generally the only resistance on the trigger is the switch itself, and occasionally magnets or springs which the player will end up removing.

You can usually shoot well over 10bps with electronic markers in semi auto, and ramping (The electronic board "ramps" up the balls per second shot, resulting in a higher rate of fire than you are actually shooting) had become much more common in the days when I was just getting out of it.

Last I heard, tournament ball had a bunch of new rules being put in place regarding ROF, and the nppl was in trouble.


My 06 Ego with dbounce set to "crazy" dry firing hit 42 bps (balls per second)... Sold that Ego and bought my first AR15, haven't owned a marker since.
1/30/2012 9:02:45 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
He's bump firing. It's just barely bouncing off his shoulder.


Noticed that too.
1/30/2012 9:07:08 AM EDT
[#14]
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Someone needs to tell the girly man in the vid that the only civilians who wear beards are hipsters and gays.  




Says the guy with the Civic.



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
1/30/2012 9:18:19 AM EDT
[#15]
I can fan 8 a second on a classic AutoMag and I have audio (on some computer, somewhere) to prove it.

Years ago, automags.org had a contest to see who was actually the fastest.  You put an audio clip (or video, with an audio track) into a soundboard and count the peaks.  It's the cheapest reliable way to do it.  All the onboard readouts on electros aren't accurate for crap, and they're frequently padded to boost the egos of teenagers.

If you can pull an honest 7 or 8 a second on a mechanical, you're doing well.  (reference: 8 a second is 1/16th notes at 120BPM)

With an electro, 13 is very fast.  14 or 15 is the top 5%.  Nobody can pull faster than 15 a second without cheater software.  Nobody can sustain 15/sec for longer than about half a second.  Yes, that includes pros.
1/30/2012 9:26:49 AM EDT
[#16]



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Someone needs to tell the girly man in the vid that the only civilians who wear beards are hipsters and gays.  
Costa is a civilian these days.





 
1/30/2012 9:35:39 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
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you should watch paintball players


Don't they typically use a 2 finger trigger for faster trigger pulls?


It isn't the double trigger that makes a PB gun fast.  It is the fact that the trigger is electronic (either on, or off), rather than mechanical.  When I played PB, I could shoot around 6/second with a manual trigger.  The bolt cycling back and forth had enough vibration that if I held the trigger just right, the gun would shoot itself.  (apparently that is not illegal in PB).  The longer trigger just allows a more natural movement of the first two fingers, rather than just one....and you can double the speed by alternating fingers...but that wasn't my preferred method).  I liked the bumpfire concept.

Yep. Generally the only resistance on the trigger is the switch itself, and occasionally magnets or springs which the player will end up removing.

You can usually shoot well over 10bps with electronic markers in semi auto, and ramping (The electronic board "ramps" up the balls per second shot, resulting in a higher rate of fire than you are actually shooting) had become much more common in the days when I was just getting out of it.

Last I heard, tournament ball had a bunch of new rules being put in place regarding ROF, and the nppl was in trouble.


My 06 Ego with dbounce set to "crazy" dry firing hit 42 bps (balls per second)... Sold that Ego and bought my first AR15, haven't owned a marker since.


I'd love to see a hopper try and keep up with that without chopping balls.
1/30/2012 9:52:07 AM EDT
[#18]



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you should watch paintball players




Don't they typically use a 2 finger trigger for faster trigger pulls?




It isn't the double trigger that makes a PB gun fast.  It is the fact that the trigger is electronic (either on, or off), rather than mechanical.  When I played PB, I could shoot around 6/second with a manual trigger.  The bolt cycling back and forth had enough vibration that if I held the trigger just right, the gun would shoot itself.  (apparently that is not illegal in PB).  The longer trigger just allows a more natural movement of the first two fingers, rather than just one....and you can double the speed by alternating fingers...but that wasn't my preferred method).  I liked the bumpfire concept.


Yep. Generally the only resistance on the trigger is the switch itself, and occasionally magnets or springs which the player will end up removing.



You can usually shoot well over 10bps with electronic markers in semi auto, and ramping (The electronic board "ramps" up the balls per second shot, resulting in a higher rate of fire than you are actually shooting) had become much more common in the days when I was just getting out of it.




Last I heard, tournament ball had a bunch of new rules being put in place regarding ROF, and the nppl was in trouble.




My 06 Ego with dbounce set to "crazy" dry firing hit 42 bps (balls per second)... Sold that Ego and bought my first AR15, haven't owned a marker since.




I'd love to see a hopper try and keep up with that without chopping balls.


halo or whatever else is out these days (I think it's the rotor or something), with the rip drive pre loaded would likely keep up for the preloaded stack, and then the entire thing would turn into a blender. Of course, the point is moot when most electros had eyes back when I was playing 6 or 7 years ago, so I assume they all have them now.

 
1/30/2012 2:38:58 PM EDT
[#19]
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He's bump firing. It's just barely bouncing off his shoulder.


Noticed that too.



He's not bump firing.