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1/27/2012 8:49:12 AM EDT
I have been a long time Linux user and it does what I need it to do.
Recently I set up a New PC for my wife and put MS Windows 7 on it
since she needs to be familiar with various MS apps for work etc.
I am a Network Admin for Windows servers, so I use MS products all day

While MS Windows 7 looks nice, I still stick with Linux since it is free
and there are some things it is a lot easier for me to do under Linux
and when I really have to run windows for a particular program
I can just run than in a clean Windows XP Virtual box session.

So at the end of the day Is there a valid reason to spend my
Ammo money to buy windows when Linux works; Or is there
some great hidden Windows 7 thing I don't know about.

Thank you
1/27/2012 8:50:40 AM EDT
[#1]
Get Both?

I use whatever allows me to get stuff done.
Sometimes that Linux somtimes it's Windows.
Do you need Windows for anything? Are there any applications that are Windows only that you have to be using?

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Or is there some great hidden Windows 7 thing I don't know about.

If you are asking this then the answer is probably "no" for you
1/27/2012 8:52:40 AM EDT
[#2]
Both, run one as a virtual machine
1/27/2012 8:55:48 AM EDT
[#3]
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Get Both?

I use whatever allows me to get stuff done.
Sometimes that Linux somtimes it's Windows.
Do you need Windows for anything? Are there any applications that are Windows only that you have to be using?

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Or is there some great hidden Windows 7 thing I don't know about.

If you are asking this then the answer is probably "no" for you


There are a few features of Windows 7 I really like.

That said, if price, performance or quality is important, the only answer is Linux.  If Vendor Lockin is the primary concern, as it is nearly everywhere, Windows 7 is the clear winner.

YMMV
1/27/2012 9:04:02 AM EDT
[#4]
If you are not running anything that requires MS Windows, why bother?

If you run Windows you could be attacked by hackers etc, Linux less so.
1/27/2012 9:06:52 AM EDT
[#5]
I like LINUX but I use COREL DRAW and COREL VIDEOSTUDIO so I need to use Windows

Corel doesn't seem to run well in virtual box.

It helps that Windows 7 runs pretty fast.

Except for those programs that require Windows, I would absolutely use LINUX!
1/27/2012 9:08:58 AM EDT
[#6]
Windows 7.

It came on my computer. It works fine for me.

I've never tinkered with Linux.
1/27/2012 9:11:39 AM EDT
[#7]
dual boot ftw.

but only because its hard to game on a linux box hehe.
1/27/2012 9:17:33 AM EDT
[#8]
Dual boot.  I always keep Windows around, but I don't use it very often.

I'm currently using Zorin OS 5.2.  The best, most comprehensive distro I've used so far.  I like it better than Mint, and I like Mint a lot.

Never did like Ubuntu with Unity.  Slows my computer to a crawl.
1/27/2012 9:24:06 AM EDT
[#9]
If you do not need any of the software apps, you aren't missing anything.  If you do need the apps, use VMWare and stash the VM on a non-root disk.
1/27/2012 9:26:15 AM EDT
[#10]
Unless you are running graphics intensive programs that must use windows (because even in a VM it will suck ass), no.  There is no reason to use windows.
1/27/2012 9:29:41 AM EDT
[#11]
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If you run Windows you could be attacked by hackers etc, Linux less so.




This is all relative. Being a *nix user doesn't mean that you aren't a retard.
1/27/2012 9:29:44 AM EDT
[#12]
If your wife is fine with win 7 why change it? Gotta keep your rep up?

Windows 7 is a great OS.

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1/27/2012 9:32:17 AM EDT
[#13]
Win 7 is nice, but it sounds like you don't need it.  

I occasionally play games, so it's Windows for me.

*ETA I have a Linux box for playing around, that's about it.  If you're a Windows admin, Windows RDP beats the snot outta VNC, remoting to other Windows boxes is much nicer than into Linux.
1/27/2012 9:32:59 AM EDT
[#14]
I liked Windows 7, but I also really like Ubuntu. The Linux seems a bit faster and more efficient,
I miss Winamp, but other than that so far so good.

I'm on an older machine and the Linux seems more stable- it doesn't need to be rebooted every 3 days like windows did.
1/27/2012 9:34:01 AM EDT
[#15]
Windows 7 because you have actually seen a vagina this millennium.

1/27/2012 9:55:11 AM EDT
[#16]
Well I just had this same conversation at work and it
looks like I'm not missing anything if I stick with Linux
(BTW my wife has her own PC on MS Windows 7)

My desktop PC is on Linux and has Virtual sessions I use
for when I need to run a specific windows app (like cad/cam).

The system that runs my CNC machines is Linux.

I tend to use the OS that gets the job done.

Thanks all




1/27/2012 10:03:19 AM EDT
[#17]
Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.



Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?
1/27/2012 10:08:16 AM EDT
[#18]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


Make others life more difficult to make sure you feel superior?

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1/27/2012 10:10:14 AM EDT
[#19]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


True, if you limit yourself to the Windows world, it is by far the best desktop Windows OS ever released.
1/27/2012 10:10:36 AM EDT
[#20]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


Same here and yes I like *nix. Windows 7 is worth paying the retail cost on. Remains to be seen if Win 8 will offer enough features to justify upgrading.
1/27/2012 10:12:46 AM EDT
[#21]
Windows does everything I need, and Linux doesn't do several things I need, so my choice is obvious.



Windows is also just so much more intuitive to use and administer.  I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to delve into cryptic config files in Windows to solve a problem or make something work.  In Linux, it happens all the time.



Linux can be a powerful tool, but there really isn't such a thing as a casual linux user.  You're either a guru, or you're floundering.  There isn't much middle ground.
1/27/2012 10:14:37 AM EDT
[#22]
Posting this from an Ubuntu desktop...



Get both.  I have an Ubuntu desktop computer and a Win7 notebook.  The notebook is essential to my day-to-day life and interactions with CISCO products.  Linux is just too fussy about some things although you can get there if you are willing to let your inner geek roar.  My Ubuntu machine is a work horse.
1/27/2012 10:15:18 AM EDT
[#23]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


i agree. microsoft got 7 right. i like to game so my choices are limited. i still perfer linux for my nas, firewall, file server. yes i have these in my home because i got bored one weekend. lol
1/27/2012 10:19:55 AM EDT
[#24]
If that were the situation, I'd dual boot.  Only use Windows when I need to.  Since I play a lot of games, I just keep my desktop on Windows (XP right now, but will go to 7 when I upgrade the hardware soon).

I just got a MacBook Air, so I'm going to stick with OS X on this one!
1/27/2012 10:24:54 AM EDT
[#25]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


She has her own PC, and her own Office
So no change for her, she stays on MS windows

This question is for my main desktop.
My desktop has been Linux for years


1/27/2012 10:44:00 AM EDT
[#26]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


She has her own PC, and her own Office
So no change for her, she stays on MS windows

This question is for my main desktop.
My desktop has been Linux for years




if your satisfied with linux, why bother even considering a change?
1/27/2012 10:45:56 AM EDT
[#27]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


She has her own PC, and her own Office
So no change for her, she stays on MS windows

This question is for my main desktop.
My desktop has been Linux for years




if your satisfied with linux, why bother even considering a change?



Because I keep hearing it touted like the second coming
So It begs to wonder what am I missing.


1/27/2012 10:53:14 AM EDT
[#28]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


She has her own PC, and her own Office
So no change for her, she stays on MS windows

This question is for my main desktop.
My desktop has been Linux for years




if your satisfied with linux, why bother even considering a change?



Because I keep hearing it touted like the second coming
So It begs to wonder what am I missing.




Well its the second coming of the windows god. windows 7 is now what xp should have been. but if you don't game, dont have hardware that requires windows, or office software, imho there is absolutly no reason to change. my 15 year old daughter still perfers linux to windows 7. why? windows 7 is bloated to do all the fancy stuff and takes forever to boot. her linux box, is up in running in less than a min.

eta; my computer challenged father loves windows 7. its easy for him to use. first os i've heard him say that with since the old MSdos / GEM desktop days. (lol he loved gem desktop.) but you know computers so ease of use is no problem for you.
1/27/2012 10:58:21 AM EDT
[#29]



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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.



Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?




She has her own PC, and her own Office

So no change for her, she stays on MS windows



This question is for my main desktop.

My desktop has been Linux for years





Ah, gotcha.



The primary reason I run Windows 7, is because I have so many Windows-only applications (with no suitable *nix equivalents), that I would end up spending 90% of my time in a Win7 VM, if Linux was my primary desktop OS.




Evidently, you're not in the same boat as me, so I say if you're happy - stick with Linux.





 
1/27/2012 11:03:25 AM EDT
[#30]
I used the Ubuntu CD to move some files from a Hard Drive that Windows 7 couldn't see.  Hard Drive maker wouldn't/didn't write drivers for 7.
1/27/2012 11:04:26 AM EDT
[#31]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


She has her own PC, and her own Office
So no change for her, she stays on MS windows

This question is for my main desktop.
My desktop has been Linux for years




if your satisfied with linux, why bother even considering a change?



Because I keep hearing it touted like the second coming
So It begs to wonder what am I missing.




Well its the second coming of the windows god. windows 7 is now what xp should have been. but if you don't game, dont have hardware that requires windows, or office software, imho there is absolutly no reason to change. my 15 year old daughter still perfers linux to windows 7. why? windows 7 is bloated to do all the fancy stuff and takes forever to boot. her linux box, is up in running in less than a min.

eta; my computer challenged father loves windows 7. its easy for him to use. first os i've heard him say that with since the old MSdos / GEM desktop days. (lol he loved gem desktop.) but you know computers so ease of use is no problem for you.



I'm not a gamer and, and the CAD CAM Runs in an XP VM
so more and more it looks like I should just save my money.

I run my systems so stripped down they boot very fast and I tend to turn
all the pretties off. I'm from the old school where computers are tools.

If I want a game I'll go play a Nintendo.

Thanks all, I just wanted to double check.


1/27/2012 11:05:21 AM EDT
[#32]
If I wasn't a gamer i'd use Linux all the time as my primary OS.


1/27/2012 11:10:04 AM EDT
[#33]
I left windows back when XP came out.



Never looked back.
1/27/2012 11:11:56 AM EDT
[#34]
If I can put nails in wood with the hammer in my hand, I'm not real concerned with the fancy hammer at the store.
1/27/2012 11:14:38 AM EDT
[#35]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


Make others life more difficult to make sure you feel superior?

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that seems to be some people's IT philosophy
1/27/2012 11:15:42 AM EDT
[#36]



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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.



Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?




Make others life more difficult to make sure you feel superior?



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that seems to be some people's IT philosophy


You guys have met my last boss, I think.



 
1/27/2012 11:18:24 AM EDT
[#37]



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Dual boot.  I always keep Windows around, but I don't use it very often.



I'm currently using Zorin OS 5.2.  The best, most comprehensive distro I've used so far.  I like it better than Mint, and I like Mint a lot.



Never did like Ubuntu with Unity.  Slows my computer to a crawl.


+1 for Dual Boot.  

 
The only thing that is frustrating about Linux is the lack of wireless support.  I'm using xubuntu w/xfce right now because the Unity interface absolutely blows donkey.  Maybe I'll give Zorin a shot.  Mint is out because I don't have access to ethernet connection.




Soooo OP: dual boot ubuntu is one of the easiest to set up.
1/27/2012 11:19:55 AM EDT
[#38]
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Dual boot.  I always keep Windows around, but I don't use it very often.

I'm currently using Zorin OS 5.2.  The best, most comprehensive distro I've used so far.  I like it better than Mint, and I like Mint a lot.

Never did like Ubuntu with Unity.  Slows my computer to a crawl.

+1 for Dual Boot.    
The only thing that is frustrating about Linux is the lack of wireless support.  I'm using xubuntu w/xfce right now because the Unity interface absolutely blows donkey.  Maybe I'll give Zorin a shot.  Mint is out because I don't have access to ethernet connection.

Soooo OP: dual boot ubuntu is one of the easiest to set up.



I have never had a problem with wireless on Linux
1/27/2012 11:37:49 AM EDT
[#39]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


Make others life more difficult to make sure you feel superior?

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that seems to be some people's IT philosophy


It's most prevalent with hobbyists from what I've seen, but it does creep into the professional arena as well sometimes.

I've always found it a shitty way of doing business.
1/27/2012 11:41:12 AM EDT
[#40]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


Make others life more difficult to make sure you feel superior?

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that seems to be some people's IT philosophy


It's most prevalent with hobbyists from what I've seen, but it does creep into the professional arena as well sometimes.

I've always found it a shitty way of doing business.


And I have seen millions and millions of dollars wasted, just because Microsoft paid off the right guy.  YMMV
1/27/2012 11:46:14 AM EDT
[#41]
Depends on what you do with it.



If you GAME... windows.



If you don't game... then you're surfing the web/ word processing... and it doesn't matter what OS you use.  
1/27/2012 11:53:38 AM EDT
[#42]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


Make others life more difficult to make sure you feel superior?

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that seems to be some people's IT philosophy


It's most prevalent with hobbyists from what I've seen, but it does creep into the professional arena as well sometimes.

I've always found it a shitty way of doing business.


And I have seen millions and millions of dollars wasted, just because Microsoft paid off the right guy.  YMMV


I've seen lots of time and money wasted as well by those that would senselessly reject an MS product just because it was the predominant OS and it made them feel smarter.  I've seen people trying to make OS/2 into an everyday desktop OS.  I've seen folks try to get crusted up old secretaries to learn complex UNIX command line syntax for similar reasons.

I try to keep the focus on providing the functionality my users need, in a format they're most able to use.  If the answer is MS, so be it.  If it's Apple, that's cool too.  Linux never makes it to the desktop by that metric.  Not yet.  Got some in the server closet though.

Still, Linux is just the misbegotten whore-child of hippies and eurotrash.  System V for the win.
1/27/2012 11:58:33 AM EDT
[#43]
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Windows 7 is my primary OS for day to day workstation stuff, and I've long since abandoned Linux for FreeBSD on everything else.

Windows 7 is a fantastic operating system. If that's what your wife is comfortable with, then I say keep it. Why change?


She has her own PC, and her own Office
So no change for her, she stays on MS windows

This question is for my main desktop.
My desktop has been Linux for years




if your satisfied with linux, why bother even considering a change?


1/27/2012 11:59:24 AM EDT
[#44]
I play games, therefore linux is essentially useless to me.
1/27/2012 11:59:40 AM EDT
[#45]
Fuck windows.
1/27/2012 12:12:07 PM EDT
[#46]
There's a generational difference here.





If you've gotten used to a command line environment... you'll be annoyed by needing to use a mouse.  If you switch to windows.





If you're used to a GUI environment... you'll be annoyed by the constant need to use the command line... even in very GUI versions of linux... if you switch to linux.
I know people who get very frustrated every time they need to take there hands off the keyboard and use the mouse.


I would be equally frustrated every time I needed to take my hand off the mouse and onto the keyboard.





They cater to different end users.

 
1/27/2012 12:12:12 PM EDT
[#47]
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Dual boot.  I always keep Windows around, but I don't use it very often.

I'm currently using Zorin OS 5.2.  The best, most comprehensive distro I've used so far.  I like it better than Mint, and I like Mint a lot.

Never did like Ubuntu with Unity.  Slows my computer to a crawl.

+1 for Dual Boot.    
The only thing that is frustrating about Linux is the lack of wireless support.  I'm using xubuntu w/xfce right now because the Unity interface absolutely blows donkey.  Maybe I'll give Zorin a shot.  Mint is out because I don't have access to ethernet connection.

Soooo OP: dual boot ubuntu is one of the easiest to set up.



I have never had a problem with wireless on Linux


I HAVE. good lord i have. lol not lately though.
1/27/2012 12:16:57 PM EDT
[#48]
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There's a generational difference here.

If you've gotten used to a command line environment... you'll be annoyed by needing to use a mouse.  If you switch to windows.

If you're used to a GUI environment... you'll be annoyed by the constant need to use the command line... even in very GUI versions of linux... if you switch to linux.



I know people who get very frustrated every time they need to take the hands off the keyboard and use the mouse.
I would be equally frustrated every time I needed to take my hand off the mouse and onto the keyboard.

They cater to different end users.


and then there are people like me who use both depending on what im doing. i'll take a GUI based print manager anyday over CUPS.

but my IT director who is from the oldscool thinks im nuts cause i insist on using a trackball. lol its sooooo much better! and best of all most people stay away from my machine because of it!
1/27/2012 12:18:27 PM EDT
[#49]
I use W7 for everyday stuff since its more convenient...I have Ubuntu set to dual-boot but I almost never boot into it, usually I have it on a VM
1/27/2012 12:19:51 PM EDT
[#50]



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There's a generational difference here.



If you've gotten used to a command line environment... you'll be annoyed by needing to use a mouse.  If you switch to windows.



If you're used to a GUI environment... you'll be annoyed by the constant need to use the command line... even in very GUI versions of linux... if you switch to linux.
I know people who get very frustrated every time they need to take the hands off the keyboard and use the mouse.

I would be equally frustrated every time I needed to take my hand off the mouse and onto the keyboard.



They cater to different end users.


Well said.  I much prefer GUIs, although I do appreciate being able to use the command line for running scripts.  It's funny, though, because on my first PC, I lived in DOS.  I only ran Windows when I had to run a Windows app.  As soon as I was done, I quit to DOS again.



 
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