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4/25/2017 7:42:44 PM
Posted: 6/27/2002 10:44:40 PM EDT
What kind of helmets were the Delta guys wearing? They certainly weren't k-pots, and they resemble something like what the IDF wears.
Link Posted: 6/27/2002 11:16:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/27/2002 11:19:45 PM EDT by sharky30]
the book described them as hockey helmets. I'm sure they were actually something sturdier than plastic hockey helmets though
Link Posted: 6/27/2002 11:20:47 PM EDT
I think I saw them being sold in the U.S. Cavalry catalog.
Link Posted: 6/27/2002 11:22:36 PM EDT
There are two ways to answer this question: MLA style and AR15.com style. 1)MLA style. "...Wilkinson was wearing the lightweight plastic Pro-Tech hockey helmet..."(Bowden 140) Bowden, Mark. [u]Blackhawk Down[/u]. New York: Penguin, 2000. 2)Ar15.com two page discussion. [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=88590[/url]
Link Posted: 6/27/2002 11:23:02 PM EDT
My understanding is that they were off-the-shelf hockey helmets to protect there heads from the walls of whatever buildings they went into and allow for maximum mobility. I don't think fragmentation grenade protection was a factor.
Link Posted: 6/27/2002 11:28:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Imbroglio: I think I saw them being sold in the U.S. Cavalry catalog.
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I saw DEVO wearing them in 1979.
Link Posted: 6/27/2002 11:37:12 PM EDT
gardenWeasel is right. Those helmet are also quite popular with skateboarders... Hmmm, maybe Delta uses skateboards for urban warfare?
Link Posted: 6/28/2002 12:32:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2002 12:32:54 AM EDT by ArmdLbrl]
Originally Posted By skullworks: gardenWeasel is right. Those helmet are also quite popular with skateboarders... Hmmm, maybe Delta uses skateboards for urban warfare?
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[8D] My understanding is that they now wear Kevlar pots whenever they think there is a chance they may be shot at. Supposedly they are actively looking for a helmet that is both armored AND crashworthy but they haven't found one yet, or they haven't made it public.
Link Posted: 6/28/2002 4:20:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By skullworks: gardenWeasel is right. Those helmet are also quite popular with skateboarders... Hmmm, maybe Delta uses skateboards for urban warfare?
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Works for the Marines. [img]http://members.cox.net/dm79/tetriscamo3.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/28/2002 4:28:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/28/2002 6:21:44 AM EDT
Yep...Pro-Tec, they were also widely used in the '70's as a helmet for skydiving before the "Frap" or leather "French helmet" or "nothing at all became popular....
Link Posted: 6/28/2002 6:40:24 AM EDT
Why even wear something that light? Just go with a hat at that point.
Link Posted: 6/28/2002 6:43:55 AM EDT
It protects them from hitting their heads when doing CQB or exiting a vehicle. Av.
Link Posted: 6/28/2002 7:14:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2002 7:15:33 AM EDT by Phil_A_Steen]
I understand wearing it for a rope in but then I'd ditch it on the ground.
Link Posted: 6/28/2002 7:16:47 AM EDT
They are called Pro-Tec half shells and run about $40. They are same ones the SEALs use only they don't come down over the ears. We used the same ones in SAR (unless gunfire was a factor). There were some valuable lessons learned about Pro-Tecs as a result of Somolia. One is that they are fine for permissive environment work, not combat. So you're not likely to see them used in that role anymore. The Gallet side cut is becoming the norm. -SARguy
Link Posted: 6/28/2002 9:05:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen: I understand wearing it for a rope in but then I'd ditch it on the ground.
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As Avalon01 said, it's good for protecting your head from bumping into stuff. It's a judgment call to use Pro-Tech type helmets over kevlar. The Pro-Tech's give you better sense of sound and mobility, and if you're racing through a CQB drill that might be more important than the added protection from kevlar. Remember, these guys are counting on having the initiative and overrun the bad guys before they have a chance to react.
Link Posted: 6/28/2002 9:33:32 AM EDT
Helmets such as those provide confidence, as well as protection. Just like the knee pads. When you're all padded up, it's almost fun to dive behind cover. It eliminates hesitation.
Link Posted: 6/28/2002 1:51:15 PM EDT
I found a web site on the pro-tech combat helmets. [url]http://www.specwargear.com/helmet-1.html[/url]
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