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12/15/2011 6:02:02 AM EDT
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/14/2013-cadillac-ats-will-be-powered-by-270-hp-turbo-four-cylinder/#continued



Engine has a computer controlled 2 stage oil pump.  Goal is friction reduction throughout the engine.
12/15/2011 6:15:50 AM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?
12/15/2011 6:19:21 AM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?


I'm wondering this as well.
12/15/2011 6:21:05 AM EDT
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Bought and paid for with your hard earned dollars.

Die GM...
12/15/2011 6:24:06 AM EDT
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Electric oil pump? Scary.
12/15/2011 6:33:15 AM EDT
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Electric oil pump? Scary.


THIS.
12/15/2011 6:49:00 AM EDT
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Electric oil pump? Scary.


THIS.


Oops, fuse blew. That'll be $9856.75. All service includes a complimentary wash, would you like to upgrade that to a full detail for another $699?


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12/15/2011 6:59:07 AM EDT
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I remember some real beauties coming out of GM, especially their four cylinders.  I suppose I'd roll the dice on one as long as it was under factory warranty.  There will be some real horror stories about it once it gets a few years on it's belt.  



Cadillac is building some really cool stuff right now.  They've come a long way from the low water mark of the 1980's Seville and whatever they called the Chevy Cavalier with the chrome kit.
12/15/2011 6:59:15 AM EDT
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Electric oil pump + OnStar + disgruntled IT guy = very costly revenge...

 DanO
12/15/2011 7:01:41 AM EDT
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Cadillac is building some really cool stuff right now.  They've come a long way from the low water mark of the 1980's Seville and whatever they called the Chevy Cavalier with the chrome kit.


Haha! My girlfriend in high school had one of those. What the heck were those things called?

Eta: Cimmaron

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12/15/2011 7:04:28 AM EDT
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By the look of the engine cover, the engine is going in wrongways, so the ATS will be wrong wheel drive.

Awesome.

Not.

12/15/2011 7:11:31 AM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?


I'm wondering this as well.


I'm betting it is.
The specs are almost the same as the 2.0L Turbo Charged Direct Injection Ecotec that is in the Pontiac Solstice GXP (rated at 260HP).
I bet they tweaked it a little and got themselves a few more HP....
12/15/2011 7:13:11 AM EDT
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Not electric, just computer controlled, at least a far as I could tell from the video.
12/15/2011 7:18:05 AM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?




I'm wondering this as well.




Yes, so it will be a good engine.  Not to mention 270 hp out of 2 liters!  That smokes anything audi or bmw has to offer at that size.
12/15/2011 7:21:10 AM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?




I'm wondering this as well.




Yes, so it will be a good engine.  Not to mention 270 hp out of 2 liters!  That smokes anything audi or bmw has to offer at that size.


Pretty easy to get 270hp out of 2L when its turbocharged.

 
12/15/2011 7:24:31 AM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?


I'm wondering this as well.


Yes, so it will be a good engine.  Not to mention 270 hp out of 2 liters!  That smokes anything audi or bmw has to offer at that size.

Pretty easy to get 270hp out of 2L when its turbocharged.  


Look at what these guys can do to a 2.5l Subaru Boxer engine

http://www.outfrontmotorsports.com/homepage.htm
12/15/2011 7:32:35 AM EDT
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Its Gov motors so it will be backed by the tax payers



Keep on trucking Obama motors

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12/15/2011 7:33:45 AM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?


I'm wondering this as well.


Yes, so it will be a good engine.  Not to mention 270 hp out of 2 liters!  That smokes anything audi or bmw has to offer at that size.

Pretty easy to get 270hp out of 2L when its turbocharged.  


Look at what these guys can do to a 2.5l Subaru Boxer engine

http://www.outfrontmotorsports.com/homepage.htm


i get around 300 to the wheels with a turbo'd 2.0 subaru WRX. sportbikes get around 150+ to the wheels naturally aspirated on 1 liter.

12/15/2011 7:34:48 AM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?


I'm wondering this as well.


Yes, so it will be a good engine.  Not to mention 270 hp out of 2 liters!  That smokes anything audi or bmw has to offer at that size.


I have nothing against Ecotecs, planned on getting one for my 2nd j-body, and would love to grab a Holden V6 Ecotec from down here for my other j-body back home.
12/15/2011 8:12:16 AM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?




I'm wondering this as well.




Yes, so it will be a good engine. Not to mention 270 hp out of 2 liters! That smokes anything audi or bmw has to offer at that size.


Pretty easy to get 270hp out of 2L when its turbocharged.




So how many other factory production 2 liter engines put out those kind of numbers? Just curious.
12/15/2011 11:52:06 AM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?


I'm wondering this as well.


Yes, so it will be a good engine.  Not to mention 270 hp out of 2 liters!  That smokes anything audi or bmw has to offer at that size.


When you don't have to pay off 50% of your costs, you can design shit like this for the mass market.

BMW has built a 1.4 liter, 4 cyl engine that exceeded the 1400 hp mark on the dyno.

It's not lack of ability that prevents a car company from making a 300 hp 4 cyl engine.

TXL
12/15/2011 11:57:14 AM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?


I'm wondering this as well.


Yes, so it will be a good engine. Not to mention 270 hp out of 2 liters! That smokes anything audi or bmw has to offer at that size.

Pretty easy to get 270hp out of 2L when its turbocharged.


So how many other factory production 2 liter engines put out those kind of numbers? Just curious.


Probably as many as other factories that received a total bailout from their chief union organizer.

Again, most of what the car makers can do is extremely regulated by the ,gov.

Guess who owns GM?????

Yeah, just like the owners of the company new the VOLT would catch fire, and did nothing.  When some morons could not keep their feet on the break of their Toyota, the same owner of that company went nuts.

It seems that if you are owned by the .gov, you too can pretend to be a forward looking company with no need to be concerned with costs like pensions and such, or safety factors, because the people who you would complain to are the COMPANY OWNERS.

TXL
12/15/2011 12:48:26 PM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?


I'm wondering this as well.


Yes, so it will be a good engine. Not to mention 270 hp out of 2 liters! That smokes anything audi or bmw has to offer at that size.

Pretty easy to get 270hp out of 2L when its turbocharged.


So how many other factory production 2 liter engines put out those kind of numbers? Just curious.


BMW can match the torque, but is short 30 horses with their turbo-4

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12/15/2011 12:56:28 PM EDT
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The torque numbers are impressive, but Honda did 240HP out of a naturally aspirated 2.0 liter I4.... twelve years ago.  
12/15/2011 12:59:32 PM EDT
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Will they be bringing back the VEGA to put that in.

Ed

ETA: damit wasted an 870 on a vega joke when it should have been a rabbit.
12/15/2011 1:00:17 PM EDT
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Is it just a modified Ecotec?




I'm wondering this as well.




Yes, so it will be a good engine. Not to mention 270 hp out of 2 liters! That smokes anything audi or bmw has to offer at that size.


Pretty easy to get 270hp out of 2L when its turbocharged.




So how many other factory production 2 liter engines put out those kind of numbers? Just curious.


Mitsubishi Evo and Japanse spec WRX STi have made over 270 hp from 2.0 liter engines for a while now.

 
12/15/2011 1:01:18 PM EDT
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The torque numbers are impressive, but Honda did 240HP out of a naturally aspirated 2.0 liter I4.... twelve years ago.  


The later s2000 models were a 2.2l FYI