[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Neighbor/ Hunting land problem ..... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 11/23/2011 1:01:03 PM EDT
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I have a question and need to know if any hunting laws have been broken. So I have some deer stands on my property in the U.P. There are on some great deer trails that cross over to a neighbors field. Well he wasn't happy with our stands and he put three semi truck trailers on the deer paths that cross into his field. He also put two abandoned cars on two additional paths. We have never shot a deer on his property or tracked a deer on his property . Now that these trailers are there the deer have not been in my field or property. Is there any law that's being broken even though the trucks are on his side of the
Property. It's a real D**k move. No one understands it! Any help would be great. |
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In some states it may be arguably illegal if he's doing it for the sole purpose of interfering with someone hunting legally. I could see that sticking if the guy was following this dude around making a bunch of noise or some other type of active interfering. |
| Cut new trails ... Open up a nice plot in the middle of your woodsthis winter. Next year tend it and plant the shit out of it to bring them in. Plant turnips a bit late and leave them in the ground. When the frsot his the deer will be on them like flys on shit |
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In some states it may be arguably illegal if he's doing it for the sole purpose of interfering with someone hunting legally. Yep, in Michigan it is against the law to harass sportsman in the field. I would find out what DNR officer is assigned to your county and call and ask them if this qualifies. |
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Hunter Harrassment Overview
Hunters in Michigan have the right to enjoy their sport free from unreasonable and deliberate interference from those opposed to hunting as a legitimate use of public land and other natural resources. Michigan law prohibits individuals from obstructing or interfering with the lawful taking of animals. The Department of Natural Resources supports hunting as a legitimate form of recreation and as a useful tool in the management of the wildlife resource. Michigan conservation officers are committed to protecting hunters from the intentional disruption of the hunting experience. Individuals, whose hunting is being obstructed, should promptly report the violation to the DNR toll free complaint line at 1-800-292-7800, a local conservation officer, or the nearest DNR office facility. Hunter harassment is a misdemeanor offense. Law enforcement officers may issue a citation for violations which take place in their presence, or may arrest with a warrant obtained on information provided by the affected hunter. Acting in cooperation with each other, the hunter and the conservation officer can be an effective team in ensuring the full protection of Michigan's hunters. In order for an enforcement effort to be effective, the hunter should be prepared, pay attention to details, contact a law enforcement officer and most important, be willing to take the issue to court and provide credible testimony in any court proceedings. Hunters should note the following points; who, what, where, when, and how when reporting any physical or other deliberate hunter anti-hunter confrontation. The hunter should not under any circumstances become involved in a physical confrontation with any individual. Hunters being harassed should inform the harasser of their feelings and request the harassment to stop. The burden of proof in any criminal prosecution is on the accuser. To successfully prosecute any person for harassment of another, it must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the person intentionally or knowingly committed the violation. |
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Quoted: Hunter Harrassment Overview Hunters in Michigan have the right to enjoy their sport free from unreasonable and deliberate interference from those opposed to hunting as a legitimate use of public land and other natural resources. Michigan law prohibits individuals from obstructing or interfering with the lawful taking of animals. The Department of Natural Resources supports hunting as a legitimate form of recreation and as a useful tool in the management of the wildlife resource. Michigan conservation officers are committed to protecting hunters from the intentional disruption of the hunting experience. Individuals, whose hunting is being obstructed, should promptly report the violation to the DNR toll free complaint line at 1-800-292-7800, a local conservation officer, or the nearest DNR office facility. Hunter harassment is a misdemeanor offense. Law enforcement officers may issue a citation for violations which take place in their presence, or may arrest with a warrant obtained on information provided by the affected hunter. Acting in cooperation with each other, the hunter and the conservation officer can be an effective team in ensuring the full protection of Michigan's hunters. In order for an enforcement effort to be effective, the hunter should be prepared, pay attention to details, contact a law enforcement officer and most important, be willing to take the issue to court and provide credible testimony in any court proceedings. Hunters should note the following points; who, what, where, when, and how when reporting any physical or other deliberate hunter anti-hunter confrontation. The hunter should not under any circumstances become involved in a physical confrontation with any individual. Hunters being harassed should inform the harasser of their feelings and request the harassment to stop. The burden of proof in any criminal prosecution is on the accuser. To successfully prosecute any person for harassment of another, it must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the person intentionally or knowingly committed the violation. Well...you can always go that route. But I would try talking to him first, to see what the problem is. I would try to be at least a little neighborly. |
| His property no law broken.I had neighbors post other peoples property and drive their ATVs around to interfere with our hunts then called DNR on my brother for shooting a buck.DNR informed neighbors of laws and warned of arrest for interupting lawful hunting.Some people are just assholes.Do a food plot and some cheap berry jello mix in warm water on a salt lick! |
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I have a question and need to know if any hunting laws have been broken. So I have some deer stands on my property in the U.P. There are on some great deer trails that cross over to a neighbors field. Well he wasn't happy with our stands and he put three semi truck trailers on the deer paths that cross into his field. He also put two abandoned cars on two additional paths. We have never shot a deer on his property or tracked a deer on his property . Now that these trailers are there the deer have not been in my field or property. Is there any law that's being broken even though the trucks are on his side of the Property. It's a real D**k move. No one understands it! Any help would be great. The solution to your problem is simple.... buy up his property. Or, are you expecting a socialist solution? |
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Wouldn't matter around here. Deer would just walk around them. +1 The deer in the back 40 here mainly stick to the same trails they did when my grandfather was a boy. They adapt to housing and developement etc, but a deers nature will likely dominate where they walk. |
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In some states it may be arguably illegal if he's doing it for the sole purpose of interfering with someone hunting legally. Yep, illegal in IA-IF you can prove his reasoning. It's illegal to do anything to intentionally interfere with a legal hunt. Target shooting on your own land while the neighbor is deer hunting? Legal, especially if you didn't know he was hunting. Shooting into the air or ground to scare deer away when the same neighbor is hunting? Illegal interference with a hunt if proven. I'd imagine the same applies to the trailers. Illegal but prove that's why they're there. All your neighbor has to say is "I put them there to get them out of my way", and if no property line was crossed he's fine, unless your state has some law about blocking game trails(it's possible if not likely). |
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Wouldn't matter around here. Deer would just walk around them. This right here. If the deer want to access your property, they will make another trail. Look for it. Another +1 They will find a way to get where they want to go. Just do a little scouting and find out how they are accessing the areas they feed, bed, etc. Deer regualrly cross hiways, fences, rivers, lakes, and housing developments to get to where they want to be. A few old cars and trailers isnt gonna stop them. |
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I have a question and need to know if any hunting laws have been broken. So I have some deer stands on my property in the U.P. There are on some great deer trails that cross over to a neighbors field. Well he wasn't happy with our stands and he put three semi truck trailers on the deer paths that cross into his field. He also put two abandoned cars on two additional paths. We have never shot a deer on his property or tracked a deer on his property . Now that these trailers are there the deer have not been in my field or property. Is there any law that's being broken even though the trucks are on his side of the Property. It's a real D**k move. No one understands it! Any help would be great. Why do you believe he "isn't happy with your stands"? What are his concerns? I'd try talking to him. His property, he can park old cars and shit if he wants. Maybe he's just an asshole. But maybe he has some articulable reason that, even if you think is stupid, you can mitigate somehow. But it seems to this city boy that deer will just walk around these old cars and trailers once they realize they're just part of the landscape now. If you just let things be, if deer want to come on your property they will. |
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Any feeder or blind within 50 yards of a fence line is a dick move in my opinion.
Does not matter what direction it is facing. If you are in your blind 20yards from the fence then the neighbor cannot safely hunt or travel their area. You are eventually claiming the immediate area as yours to hunt regardless of the fence. Granted the trailers is an extreme way to counter the situation. |
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Any feeder or blind within 50 yards of a fence line is a dick move in my opinion. Does not matter what direction it is facing. If you are in your blind 20yards from the fence then the neighbor cannot safely hunt or travel their area. You are eventually claiming the immediate area as yours to hunt regardless of the fence. Granted the trailers is an extreme way to counter the situation. I do not share your opinion. If you are facing away from his property you are not hunting his property and you are not a danger to him. |
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I have a question and need to know if any hunting laws have been broken. So I have some deer stands on my property in the U.P. There are on some great deer trails that cross over to a neighbors field. Well he wasn't happy with our stands and he put three semi truck trailers on the deer paths that cross into his field. He also put two abandoned cars on two additional paths. We have never shot a deer on his property or tracked a deer on his property . Now that these trailers are there the deer have not been in my field or property. Is there any law that's being broken even though the trucks are on his side of the Property. It's a real D**k move. No one understands it! Any help would be great. Any laws against dumping in your area? I would be more pissed at having to look at his junk cars & trailers than the deer thing. The deer will walk around them. |
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The stand is not facing his property
The stand is blocked by trees facing his property No one has ever. Ever killed or shot at a deer or bear on his property... Quoted:
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Any feeder or blind within 50 yards of a fence line is a dick move in my opinion. Does not matter what direction it is facing. If you are in your blind 20yards from the fence then the neighbor cannot safely hunt or travel their area. You are eventually claiming the immediate area as yours to hunt regardless of the fence. Granted the trailers is an extreme way to counter the situation. I do not share your opinion. If you are facing away from his property you are not hunting his property and you are not a danger to him. |
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Quoted: I have a question and need to know if any hunting laws have been broken. So I have some deer stands on my property in the U.P. There are on some great deer trails that cross over to a neighbors field. Well he wasn't happy with our stands and he put three semi truck trailers on the deer paths that cross into his field. He also put two abandoned cars on two additional paths. We have never shot a deer on his property or tracked a deer on his property . Now that these trailers are there the deer have not been in my field or property. Is there any law that's being broken even though the trucks are on his side of the Property. It's a real D**k move. No one understands it! Any help would be great. Just a thought, maybe he's trying to keep the deer off his property. They can be a nuisance to gardens and crops. That said I don't think you can abandon your own cars on your own property, in most cases it's known as parking. Just a thought. |
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Did you talk to the neighbor Bring him some pasties and thimbleberry jam  Yea because talking to your neighbors has never resolved conflicts. I swear gd is full of children sometimes. Act like a grown-up and go ask your neighbor what the issue is and come to a compromise. |
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Im going to ask again, as others have. Have you tried talking to the guy? There is nothing illegal about what he did. You may not like it, but it's his property. Now if he were standing out there on opening day, making a bunch of racket with the express purpose of disrupting your hunt, it would be time to call the game warden. |