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11/22/2011 3:31:34 PM EDT
Anyone old enough to remember this?




11/22/2011 3:34:48 PM EDT
[#1]





LOL, is that really an ad from the '80s? Would have made me a Mac user for life after seeing that!





 
11/22/2011 3:36:43 PM EDT
[#2]
Desqview FTW!
11/22/2011 3:38:58 PM EDT
[#3]
I'm old enough, but the first version I had was 3.0.  I still remember being blown away by 3.11 (Windows for Workgroups).
11/22/2011 3:39:55 PM EDT
[#4]
I still have my Windows 1.0 diskettes.
11/22/2011 3:40:29 PM EDT
[#5]
DOS drove my first computer, so, yeah.
11/22/2011 3:42:58 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


DOS drove my first computer, so, yeah.


+1



 
11/22/2011 3:44:27 PM EDT
[#7]

11/22/2011 3:44:42 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Desqview FTW!


Damn, you're old.

Wait a minute - I'm old, because I know what that is and used it myself.
11/22/2011 3:44:44 PM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


Desqview FTW!


I still own an "I love DOS" bumper sticker I got from PC Magazine, back in the day. Still in my filing cabinet, never been applied.

 



I held out with DESQview until the bitter end. Once Windows 95 came out, I knew it was time. But God damnit, I kept the fuckin' faith.
11/22/2011 3:46:22 PM EDT
[#10]
Pfffftt.  I started with a dual floppy (no HD) IBM with DOS 2.1 on a 5.25" floppy.  DOS commands only.    
11/22/2011 3:47:18 PM EDT
[#11]
Computers have been all downhill since DOS 5.0
11/22/2011 3:47:34 PM EDT
[#12]
He hasn't changed much, believe it or not.
11/22/2011 3:48:02 PM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Desqview FTW!




Damn, you're old.



Wait a minute - I'm old, because I know what that is and used it myself.
I ran DESQview on an 8088, with all of 640k of RAM (most of which was installed on an 8-bit ISA card). I ran a BBS this way. You had to page the SysOp (me) when you wanted to download something, because I had to physically put the floppy in the drive, so you could have it. I was too poor to own an MFM or RLL hard drive, at that point.





 
11/22/2011 3:48:39 PM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


He hasn't changed much, believe it or not.


Developers! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!

 
11/22/2011 3:49:20 PM EDT
[#15]




Quoted:

Computers have been all downhill since DOS 5.0


You must enjoy writing batch files and having different ones to run different programs.
11/22/2011 3:50:58 PM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:





Quoted:

Computers have been all downhill since DOS 5.0


You must enjoy writing batch files and having different ones to run different programs.


I still write batch files to this day, in 2011.

 



DOS, as an operating system, sucks ass. But I cut my teeth on it, and I actually look down on IT guys who didn't.
11/22/2011 3:50:59 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
DOS drove my first computer, so, yeah.


This
11/22/2011 3:50:59 PM EDT
[#18]
Ayup.
11/22/2011 3:52:32 PM EDT
[#19]




Quoted:





Quoted:

Computers have been all downhill since DOS 5.0


You must enjoy writing batch files and having different ones to run different programs.




It made me feel smart!
11/22/2011 3:59:10 PM EDT
[#20]



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Quoted:




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Computers have been all downhill since DOS 5.0


You must enjoy writing batch files and having different ones to run different programs.




It made me feel smart!

device=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS




Config.sys wasn't a batch file, but it was the source of much win.




I miss ANSI graphics.







 
11/22/2011 4:00:14 PM EDT
[#21]




Quoted:





Quoted:





Quoted:

Computers have been all downhill since DOS 5.0


You must enjoy writing batch files and having different ones to run different programs.


I still write batch files to this day, in 2011.





DOS, as an operating system, sucks ass. But I cut my teeth on it, and I actually look down on IT guys who didn't.




Lol.



I am intervierwing for a new tech now, and half of these guys were in diapers as DOS was ending it's life and a command line is a scary thing you have to use when the shiny buttons won't work. The other half of these guys last touched a server when FORTRAN was king and stepped out of day to day when punch cards were phasing out to reel to reel.



Who to hire...
11/22/2011 4:01:15 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

Quoted:
He hasn't changed much, believe it or not.

Developers! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!  


Yeah, the screaming monkey dance will never die However, he's also the direct go/no-go vote on the project that is my bread and butter right now, so that makes him my new best friend.

ETA: Freeing up high memory via Config.sys to play Wing Commander or Ultima was a goddamn art form. Kids today with their fancy consoles and high-end PCs..
11/22/2011 4:03:45 PM EDT
[#23]
My boss has 1.0, but it didn't appeal to me. Kind of made me think of those ransom notes with cutout letters pasted on a sheet of paper.

My first copies of Pagemaker and Excel came with runtime Windows, so I finally got Windows/286 (V. 2.03 IIRC).
11/22/2011 4:05:24 PM EDT
[#24]

C:\>debug

G=C800:CCC





If you know what that is, and why it was done, you can be my friend. I'd also hire you.
11/22/2011 4:06:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Wasn't that the first of a series of barely functional Microsoft Software? Masquerading as a GUI?
11/22/2011 4:07:14 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Computers have been all downhill since DOS 5.0

You must enjoy writing batch files and having different ones to run different programs.

I still write batch files to this day, in 2011.

DOS, as an operating system, sucks ass. But I cut my teeth on it, and I actually look down on IT guys who didn't.


Lol.

I am intervierwing for a new tech now, and half of these guys were in diapers as DOS was ending it's life and a command line is a scary thing you have to use when the shiny buttons won't work. The other half of these guys last touched a server when FORTRAN was king and stepped out of day to day when punch cards were phasing out to reel to reel.

Who to hire...


I'm a hobbyist (PC Gamer) instead of a professional IT guy, but I started with Commodore 64 command lines (LOAD "*",8,1, bitches.) I moved on to DOS, a few different DOS shells, but never touched Windows until 3.1 had been out for a little while. I can't fathom an IT person who isn't comfortable with a command line.
11/22/2011 4:08:05 PM EDT
[#27]



Quoted:


Wasn't that the first of a series of barely functional Microsoft Software? Masquerading as a GUI?


This one ran on top of dos.



You booted into dos, and then ran the command to start windows ('win' if I recall correctly).



 
11/22/2011 4:08:37 PM EDT
[#28]



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I can't fathom an IT person who isn't comfortable with a command line.


I can. And it pisses me off, like you would not believe.

 
11/22/2011 4:09:41 PM EDT
[#29]



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I can't fathom an IT person who isn't comfortable with a command line.


I can. And it pisses me off, like you would not believe.  


I work with a bunch of java developers that are terrified of going into the unix prompt on the websphere servers.



 
11/22/2011 4:09:43 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
DOS drove my first computer, so, yeah.


11/22/2011 4:10:42 PM EDT
[#31]



Quoted:





Quoted:

Wasn't that the first of a series of barely functional Microsoft Software? Masquerading as a GUI?


This one ran on top of dos.



You booted into dos, and then ran the command to start windows ('win' if I recall correctly).

 


You recall correctly, provided that win.exe was in your PATH env variable. Most folks at the time had it that way, and included win.exe in their autoexec.bat.

 



Poor bastards.
11/22/2011 4:13:43 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
C:\>debug
G=C800:CCC

If you know what that is, and why it was done, you can be my friend. I'd also hire you.


Is that a low level format? I'm not an IT guy, but I seem to remember that.

We all wrote batch files and BASIC programs 25-30 years ago, whether we were systems folks or just users.

11/22/2011 4:15:10 PM EDT
[#33]
I worked for Xerox when the Windows environment was nothing more than a 6085 in-house dumb terminal.

I still, to this day, cannot believe that they just handed the whole idea to Gates free gratis.
11/22/2011 4:15:35 PM EDT
[#34]
In DOS, if you weren't customizing autoexec.bat and config.sys on a per-application basis, you weren't pushing your hardware far enough.
11/22/2011 4:20:52 PM EDT
[#35]



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Pfffftt.  I started with a dual floppy (no HD) IBM with DOS 2.1 on a 5.25" floppy.  DOS commands only.    


The first computer I owned was a VIC-20. 5kb of RAM. Learned to program in BASIC on TRS-80 Model IIIs in my junior year of HS, 1984-85. When I got a Mac Plus in 1987 I was smokin' with 1 meg of RAM and a single 3.5" 800k floppy drive.

 
11/22/2011 4:21:56 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Anyone old enough to remember this?


Talk about old:

I was thrilled when I got XTs for use in the IT classroom. 10mb of hard disk no less!

Grew up on the IBM 650.
11/22/2011 4:24:02 PM EDT
[#37]



Quoted:


I'm old enough, but the first version I had was 3.0.  I still remember being blown away by 3.11 (Windows for Workgroups).


This. 3.0 was the first I ran.



 
11/22/2011 4:24:45 PM EDT
[#38]
Yep, it's a Low level format.  Specificly, the G=C800:CCC is for the Adaptec Bios (SCSI or IDE) debug entry code.
11/22/2011 4:27:30 PM EDT
[#39]
I started on Commodore 64 with BASIC programming.  I can remember the first time I used an IBM 8088 and thought it was the shizhnit, I think it was DOS 5.0 that was on it.
11/22/2011 4:28:42 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
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C:\>debug
G=C800:CCC

If you know what that is, and why it was done, you can be my friend. I'd also hire you.


Is that a low level format? I'm not an IT guy, but I seem to remember that.

We all wrote batch files and BASIC programs 25-30 years ago, whether we were systems folks or just users.



I was always partial to G=FFFF:0000

11/22/2011 4:29:18 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
C:\>debug
G=C800:CCC

If you know what that is, and why it was done, you can be my friend. I'd also hire you.


Is that a low level format? I'm not an IT guy, but I seem to remember that.

We all wrote batch files and BASIC programs 25-30 years ago, whether we were systems folks or just users.



You justed looked that up
11/22/2011 4:29:51 PM EDT
[#42]



Quoted:


Computers have been all downhill since DOS 5.0 CP/M



Fixt



 
11/22/2011 4:33:34 PM EDT
[#43]
My first computer was the Hyperion: http://oldcomputers.net/hyperion.html



A Canadian computer!  [insert bag & boil jokes here]



Custom OS - PCDOS 1.25H.  It was almost IBM compatible
11/22/2011 4:34:24 PM EDT
[#44]
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Desqview FTW!


Damn, you're old.

Wait a minute - I'm old, because I know what that is and used it myself.
I ran DESQview on an 8088, with all of 640k of RAM (most of which was installed on an 8-bit ISA card). I ran a BBS this way. You had to page the SysOp (me) when you wanted to download something, because I had to physically put the floppy in the drive, so you could have it. I was too poor to own an MFM or RLL hard drive, at that point.

 


I bet half the It guys now don't have a clue what a BBS was.

I still have to use DOS on a rare occasion when working on a BASIC PLC card.  I boot from a flash drive wiith 6.22 on it  
11/22/2011 4:36:16 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Computers have been all downhill since DOS 5.0

You must enjoy writing batch files and having different ones to run different programs.

I still write batch files to this day, in 2011.    

DOS, as an operating system, sucks ass. But I cut my teeth on it, and I actually look down on IT guys who didn't.


Amen.

If someone describes themselves as a sysadmin, ask them about batch files / scripting.  If they can't do it, they ain't no kind of sysadmin.
11/22/2011 4:36:53 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Computers have been all downhill since DOS 5.0

You must enjoy writing batch files and having different ones to run different programs.


Batch files FTW
11/22/2011 4:37:49 PM EDT
[#47]
Oh hell yeah...I think I still have a shoebox of numbered Fortran cards in my attic somewhere.  



How about some MS Bob to wash that Windows 1.0 down with, bitchez!!!  




11/22/2011 4:38:43 PM EDT
[#48]
I think I was overclocking a 2mhz chip.
11/22/2011 4:40:52 PM EDT
[#49]



Quoted:



Quoted:




Quoted:


Quoted:

Desqview FTW!




Damn, you're old.



Wait a minute - I'm old, because I know what that is and used it myself.
I ran DESQview on an 8088, with all of 640k of RAM (most of which was installed on an 8-bit ISA card). I ran a BBS this way. You had to page the SysOp (me) when you wanted to download something, because I had to physically put the floppy in the drive, so you could have it. I was too poor to own an MFM or RLL hard drive, at that point.



 




I bet half the It guys now don't have a clue what a BBS was.



I still have to use DOS on a rare occasion when working on a BASIC PLC card.  I boot from a flash drive wiith 6.22 on it  


I still have backup disks from my BBS(es).  I ran a very popular black hat distro board in the midwest, and was a FidoNet coordinator.   Cut my teeth on RBBS, but soon moved to the "1337" stuff.  Obv/2 was the shit!!



If you're an old SysOp too, you have GOT TO CHECKOUT "THE BBS DOCUMENTARY".



Get it.  Find it.  Watch it.  NOW.  



You will smile and laugh through the whole fucking thing.  It's PURE WIN for those of us who lived it.
 
11/22/2011 4:42:38 PM EDT
[#50]





Quoted:
Quoted:




Quoted:


Desqview FTW!






Damn, you're old.





Wait a minute - I'm old, because I know what that is and used it myself.
I ran DESQview on an 8088, with all of 640k of RAM (most of which was installed on an 8-bit ISA card). I ran a BBS this way. You had to page the SysOp (me) when you wanted to download something, because I had to physically put the floppy in the drive, so you could have it. I was too poor to own an MFM or RLL hard drive, at that point.





 
"640K ought to be enough for anybody"
 
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