[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Red Tails (Page 1 of 5)
Posted: 11/15/2011 4:42:57 PM EDT
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Ive had the honor of meeting a Tuskegee Airman years back, and it was one of the greatest experiences of my life
Red Tails (Jan 2012) 
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I am a WW2 aviation nut, so I will see it for the aerial sequences and airplanes, but the latest trailer I saw at the theater had what I can best describe as a rap/hip-hop soundtrack that was wildly at odds with the imagery. I was like, WTF? Hip-hop music in a WW2 film?  
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Quoted: bump, looks good, but I'm wondering if they over play discrimination and over exaggerate their accomplishments... just wondering Nah, they probably just exaggerate their accomplishments accurately. Overplay discrimination? Tennessee... check. CGI looks ridiculously cartoonish. I'll pass. |
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More CGI crap. The options are: 1: Locate a huge number of American and German fighter planes, bombers and period naval ships, all in working order, all with satellite camera planes. Which is impossible, so the movie wouldn't happen. 2: CG, and the movie happens. You can apply these choices to just about every movie not confined to a set. |
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Quoted: Quoted: More CGI crap. The options are: 1: Locate a huge number of American and German fighter planes, bombers and period naval ships, all in working order, all with satellite camera planes. Which is impossible, so the movie wouldn't happen. 2: CG, and the movie happens. You can apply these choices to just about every movie not confined to a set. On a small TV screen it looked about as realistic as Polar Express. Do it right or don't do it. |
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If the movie should end up over-stating the accomplishments of the Tuskeegee airmen, OR if it stays completely truthful about their accomplishments, which are impressive enough (The 332nd never lost a bomber to enemy action, a record unequalled by any other escort squadron in WWII), and by showing this movie, it instills in some young black men a sense of pride and achievement, and gives them the idea that they can also do great things in their lives, then it will certainly have been a movie worthy of its production costs even if it does not turn a profit at the box office. Nothing would please me more than for some young black Americans to see something that makes them think that there's something better waiting for them out there than a life on the dole and a case of malt liquor in the back of the donk. Everybody should have some self respect. If this movie gives somebody a way to find some, that's awesome. CJ |
I ment Lucas, WW2 Star Wars
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23% of Arfcommers will see Red Tails and like it.
87% of Arfcommers will "boycott" it because of the special effects, music, or unrealistic dialog, and stay home Saturday night masturbating vigorously to their old VHS copy of "Strategic Air Command." Again. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: 23% of Arfcommers will see Red Tails and like it. 87% of Arfcommers will "boycott" it because of the special effects, music, or unrealistic dialog, and stay home Saturday night masturbating vigorously to their old VHS copy of "Strategic Air Command." Again. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Nah, Saturday's are Western movie night. |
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"For me (George Lucas), Red Tails is like Flying Leathernecks," he says, the 1951 John Wayne charge through Guadalcanal. "It's corny. It's über-patriotic. And it's a really exciting action-adventure movie. As for the racism in our story, it's embedded in the material, so we just had to be careful not to overdo it."
http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/story/2012-01-04/george-lucas-on-red-tails-tuskegee-airmen/52378382/1 |
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I am a WW2 aviation nut, so I will see it for the aerial sequences and airplanes, but the latest trailer I saw at the theater had what I can best describe as a rap/hip-hop soundtrack that was wildly at odds with the imagery. I was like, WTF? Hip-hop music in a WW2 film?
Please, God, tell me it isn't so. I was SO looking forward to seeing this movie... |
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"For me (George Lucas), Red Tails is like Flying Leathernecks," he says, the 1951 John Wayne charge through Guadalcanal. "It's corny. It's über-patriotic. And it's a really exciting action-adventure movie. As for the racism in our story, it's embedded in the material, so we just had to be careful not to overdo it." http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/story/2012-01-04/george-lucas-on-red-tails-tuskegee-airmen/52378382/1 I think its a physical impossibility for Lucas to not overdo it when it comes to screwing up properties. |
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Quoted: 23% of Arfcommers will see Red Tails and like it. 87% of Arfcommers will "boycott" it because of the special effects, music, or unrealistic dialog, and stay home Saturday night masturbating vigorously to their old VHS copy of "Strategic Air Command." Again. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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(The 332nd never lost a bomber to enemy action, a record unequalled by any other escort squadron in WWII) Despite its popularity, I believe this claim has been documented as false. 25 lost - is what I recall. By the Air Force no less. From 2007: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-04-01-tuskegee-airmen_N.htm |
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23% of Arfcommers will see Red Tails and like it. 87% of Arfcommers will "boycott" it because of the special effects, music, or unrealistic dialog, and stay home Saturday night masturbating vigorously to their old VHS copy of "Strategic Air Command." Again. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That accounts for 110% of arfcom. Don't mind me, I'm waiting for the racists, who claim they aren't racists, to show up, and found some inaccurate math. |
| I just don't get the overuse of CGI. It looks like a cartoon. Even though it may not have been the best movie in the world, Memphis Belle didn't look like a cartoon. There are plenty of P-51s out there, and a few B-17s. I think they could've used existing warbirds to shoot much of the footage and then patch in scenes with CGI. It doesn't look like they used any real airplanes in the making of this film. |
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Quoted: Quoted: 23% of Arfcommers will see Red Tails and like it. 87% of Arfcommers will "boycott" it because of the special effects, music, or unrealistic dialog, and stay home Saturday night masturbating vigorously to their old VHS copy of "Strategic Air Command." Again. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That accounts for 110% of arfcom. Don't mind me, I'm waiting for the racists, who claim they aren't racists, to show up, and found some inaccurate math. Well, we couldn't even make it past page one before the racism charges started flying. |
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23% of Arfcommers will see Red Tails and like it. 87% of Arfcommers will "boycott" it because of the special effects, music, or unrealistic dialog, and stay home Saturday night masturbating vigorously to their old VHS copy of "Strategic Air Command." Again. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That accounts for 110% of arfcom. Don't mind me, I'm waiting for the racists, who claim they aren't racists, to show up, and found some inaccurate math. Well, we couldn't even make it past page one before the racism charges started flying. White guilt is a terrible thing. |
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23% of Arfcommers will see Red Tails and like it. 87% of Arfcommers will "boycott" it because of the special effects, music, or unrealistic dialog, and stay home Saturday night masturbating vigorously to their old VHS copy of "Strategic Air Command." Again. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That accounts for 110% of arfcom. Don't mind me, I'm waiting for the racists, who claim they aren't racists, to show up, and found some inaccurate math. Well, we couldn't even make it past page one before the racism charges started flying. What racism charge? I have not accused anyone of being a racist. However, I'm not unrealistic. There are racists here. And given the topic, they're likely to show up. |
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Quoted: Quoted: 23% of Arfcommers will see Red Tails and like it. 87% of Arfcommers will "boycott" it because of the special effects, music, or unrealistic dialog, and stay home Saturday night masturbating vigorously to their old VHS copy of "Strategic Air Command." Again. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That accounts for 110% of arfcom. Arfcom always gives it 110%. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 23% of Arfcommers will see Red Tails and like it. 87% of Arfcommers will "boycott" it because of the special effects, music, or unrealistic dialog, and stay home Saturday night masturbating vigorously to their old VHS copy of "Strategic Air Command." Again. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That accounts for 110% of arfcom. Don't mind me, I'm waiting for the racists, who claim they aren't racists, to show up, and found some inaccurate math. Well, we couldn't even make it past page one before the racism charges started flying. What racism charge? I have not accused anyone of being a racist. However, I'm not unrealistic. There are racists here. And given the topic, they're likely to show up. Could you at least wait until after someone says something racist? We were having a rather civil discussion here. |
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23% of Arfcommers will see Red Tails and like it. 87% of Arfcommers will "boycott" it because of the special effects, music, or unrealistic dialog, and stay home Saturday night masturbating vigorously to their old VHS copy of "Strategic Air Command." Again. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That accounts for 110% of arfcom. Don't mind me, I'm waiting for the racists, who claim they aren't racists, to show up, and found some inaccurate math. Well, we couldn't even make it past page one before the racism charges started flying. What racism charge? I have not accused anyone of being a racist. However, I'm not unrealistic. There are racists here. And given the topic, they're likely to show up. Could you at least wait until after someone says something racist? We were having a rather civil discussion here. Again, what charge? I said I was waiting, just as people have, in the past posted, in before the (insert whatever they expect here). You called it a charge. It clearly was not. If anything got the discussion off track it was your allegation of a charge of racism. If you would have let the comment pass uncommented upon, the discussion would still be on track. |