Command-Click. Of course you have to be using OmniWeb on Mac OS X. None of that Netscape or IE crap.


Have seen it yet, but from what I hear its a good start. It is for the people who want to get things done, the unwashed masses if you will. It isn't directed toward tinkerers or zealots.

Windows is easy to use?!?! Talk about Mac zealots.
Windows is getting better, but it is still not easy to use.
The Mac GUI is very logical, at least compared to Windows. It is intuitive and user friendly, unlike windows.

Yes it is. Buying things that are already built into the Mac, tech support, things that break, etc, all add to the overall cost of the PC, things that the Mac does not have. Here is a indepedent study done which backs this up:

[url=http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_news.cfm?NewsID=4795]Macs cost 36% less to Maintain[/url]

(Note that while it is on a Mac website, the company that did it has no connection to pro-Mac business.)


You are not the standard computer user. Most people don't go out and build their own computer.


Yeah, I heard it is stable, relative to older versions of Windows. As for 98, that was a crash prone system, just like older versions of the MacOS were.


So are PCs.

The government organization where I used to work used Macs primarily, so I've used both Macs and PCs extensively.  Each platform has its strengths and weaknesses.

I recommend reading through this thread with an eye toward fact, because there's much opinion in here.  Focus on what's important to you, try out Mac's OSX, make a choice, and have fun.

Besides, you can always change later.

DrMark

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1. Well if 97% of the folks use PCs. Don't you think that the idea of more or less reliability
might be hard to prove if for every 10 PCs there is 1 MAC. By the way maybe they know somehting you dont.

2. Oh yah if it worked so great where is it today?

3. Because your talking consumer stuff (under $2000) and probably looking at a MAC catalog. I am talking about PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS that range in price $199 to $5 Million.

4.YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU SPEAK.

5.LOOK TO 4

6. YES IT IS REALLY GOOD FOR ME... HUH!?!?

7. Believe it or not. If I were talking about a comparison of Apple based programs compared to PC programs it would actually be up to 12 to 18 times faster. I am just talking about ours.

*If your so happy with your MAC great.

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a shitty OS = Shitty useablity. get 2000 or XP. very hard to crash. the last time my second PC was rebooted was due to power faiing and no UPS attached. it had been up for 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours 32 minutues and 49 secoonds. (i have a bot on a IRC network that also keeps track of uptime by using a windows variable)

I've got 3 computers, 2 PC's that I have built (a 933 MHz and a 1.8Ghz) and 1 Mac (an IMac). The PCs where very cheap to build even with multiple hard drives,
512mb of RAM(each), CD/RWs, and DVD drives. Even with a 19" graphics monitor, each machine cost LESS than $1,300 in parts. After I put them together and
installed Win 98 SE, they both work like a charm!

My IMac also works great if it could stay connected to the internet for longer than 5 minutes without getting cut off for no explained reason!

Don't get me wrong, I love my IMac! It's quiet and easy to use (once you get the hang of it!). I just wish it had a more realistic price tag instead of a more "trendy"
look! As far as I'm concerned, ALL Apple products are 50% to 60% over priced.

I also wish I could build a Mac from NEW parts like you can build a PC, but I guess Apple doesn't want the competition. Now THAT'S a monopoly!    

Omniweb, so that's the ticket.  Guess they didn't implement the open link in a new window feature in the cool IE Preview Edition I was utilizing.  Nutscrape, they still around?

They now have at least two commercials.  The new one features a "real" FDCGH moron.

What the heck Hank! You didn't get it in piss yellow, flaming homo ruby red, or snot green. You know Flaming homo Ruby Red has the most power... [;D]

I know .. I couldn't help it .. Glad you own something your in love with.

Apparently you have not met Apple's new Operating System: Mac OS X. It almost NEVER crashes. In fact, they only time I had it crash in the past year that I have used it daily was back in the early days when it first came out, and that was due to a bug in the generic driver for Zip drives that made the machine hang when the drive was removed from the USB port and the machine was asleep at the time(whew! complicated bug!). IE, it only happened rarely. It was fixed in the next version that came out(10.1 I believe). Just wait until 10.2(or Jaguar) comes out, and it will be even more stable.
X's uptimes are similiar to other Unix systems, ie rock solid.

BTW, the same thing that you posted could be said of Windows(at least 95 and 98)

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The only problems i've had have been with beta versions of drivers. In fact, with the OS updates my systems performance is getting faster.

Its been a loooooooooog time since its crashed!
So long now that I don't remember exactly when it was.

Ok, if you do decide to buy a MAC. DON'T GO TO A MAC RETAIL SHOP!! Go to your campus bookstore. They have big discounts for students. Apple has been trying to infultrate the market this way for years. Schools and Students always get a big discount, in the hopes that if they get used to the MAC at school, they will carry it over to the workplace.

Unfortunately, this process hasn't happened. Steve Jobs is still scratching his head on this one. If he would just wake up and realize to LOWER the prices for the general public, then! his master plan would work.

Jobs tried this on the NeXt systems. Flooded the education system with them, got all the students / faculty all hyped up on them. But failed to follow through in the public. I Have to admit the NeXt systems was good at the time. But I blew away my instructors when I did the same type of work on my PC, even though it was REQUIRED that I do the work on the NeXt system.

When there was a Mac clone on the market, Apple did see a rise in demand and revenue for their software. But as someone stated before, Apple makes their $$$ on hardware.

The operation and usablility between the Mac and Wintel have become closer over the years. Both have their issues, pluses. Remember Steve Jobs stole the GUI from Xerox, then Gates took it from Jobs.

So it boils down to INITIAL cost of ownership. The average person, rarely looks at the total cost over years. Which oddly after everything is taken into consideration (software costs, hardware, user support, etc) equal out. So this is where Apple loses.

Until Steve Jobs learns from his past mistakes, no clones, no porting O/S to other platforms, Apple will always remain lagging behind in market saturation.

Uhm, right-click on short-cut, Open in New Window. Of course you'd need a two-button mouse.

Macs are great computers if your idea of a great computer is one that comes in lime green.

Other than that, they have about no real use other than maybe photoshop, and that's available on PCs too. PCs can be perfectly reliable, but because they can do a whole hell of a lot more they can be unreliable too.

It's kinda like the AR vs. the AK. Sure, you can shove an AK in the hands of any third world idiot and they can use it, but would you really want to limit yourself to that? Of course the main difference here is that Macs are actually more expensive than PCs, so I guess if you want to buy a system that is slower, can do less, and is mostly uncustomizable, go ahead and buy a Mac. As for me, I'll continue to make my own PCs out of the parts I purchase seperately and install all the software I want which wouldn't be available on the Mac. I could make more of a system with $1000 than a $2000 Mac could ever be. Even the premade PCs are a much better deal.


Verdict: JUST SAY NO TO MACS!

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