[ARCHIVED THREAD] - I hate math (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/27/2011 9:43:16 AM EDT
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I hate fucking math and the 10billion fucking rules and the god damn non-exemplified problems, everything about it. Fucking going to fail my damn calc class because I can't seem to find the right way to do something.
If I know what the order of ops is, I can do the problem. What I can't do is apply theory to a problem that I don't understand. FUCK THIS SHIT I FUCKING HATE MATH. Why can't they just give me a fucking example, all fucking math is is applying the god damn motherfucking rule to a set type of operation, so why the FUCK can't they just tell me what I have to remember in order to do the fucking problem rather then make me remember a fucking page long reason why the theory fucking works. FUCK MATH |
| Look at it this way: 2nd and 3rd grade taught you to add and subtract. 5th and 6th grade taught you to multiply anddivide. 7th and 8th grade taught you about the equal sign and how add becomes subtract when you move it across the equal sign, and how multiply turns into divide when you move it across the equal sign. Prior to calculus, you had but 3 things to understand ({+,-}, {*,/}, =). In calculus, you just get two more things to understand {d/dt and integral}. |
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... all fucking math is is applying the god damn motherfucking rule to a set type of operation,... http://darkskymagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/yoda.jpg This is why you fail. No shit. That wasn't true of anything harder than high school precalc. |
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Calculus isn't a thing that is "done." One does not "do" Calc. It is not a performance or an application of a ruleset.
One understands Calculus, and then applies it. A human being is intelligent enough to be trained how to pass a Calc test. But that does very little practical good. As St. Francis opined, seek not to be understood, but to understand. |
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Calc was the easiest math class I ever took.
Derivative: Bring down the power, subtract one. Integral: Add one to the power and divide by it. If you do those, you'll get like 80% of the problems right. The other 20% are e^x, natural logs, and trig stuff. Don't ever EVER EVER get near calc 2 if you struggle with calc 1. You really have to know your shit in calc 2. If you need help with something, PM me. |
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I hate fucking math and the 10billion fucking rules and the god damn non-exemplified problems, everything about it. Fucking going to fail my damn calc class because I can't seem to find the right way to do something. If I know what the order of ops is, I can do the problem. What I can't do is apply theory to a problem that I don't understand. FUCK THIS SHIT I FUCKING HATE MATH. Why can't they just give me a fucking example, all fucking math is is applying the god damn motherfucking rule to a set type of operation, so why the FUCK can't they just tell me what I have to remember in order to do the fucking problem rather then make me remember a fucking page long reason why the theory fucking works. FUCK MATH I hear ya bud math sucks. Find your self some smart tutor for math, bonus if they are a chick. Usually smart mathy chicks are a tad bit frigid but that means less hitting on them. Its worked good for me before. 
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Math has never been about getting the right answer, but about demonstrating why the answer MUST be the answer. Plato says that the mathematical arts of arithmetic, geometry, music, and astronomy are the only studies that enlighten the soul to higher things. You seem to be stuck in slave-mentality math, which sees math as a tool to do a job. I advise you to seek to understand the relationships first before you move to applications <–– high school math teacher. |
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I hated math too because I am unable to relate to those stupid meaningless equation in the book that have answers that don't mean shit.
I need practical application to be able to "get it" Word problems for differential equations are worse than abstract concepts. |
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I hated math too because I am unable to relate to those stupid meaningless equation in the book that have answers that don't mean shit.
I need practical application to be able to "get it" Word problems for differential equations are worse than abstract concepts. Because they are written by math majors who think in abstract terms and wouldn't be able to write a practical problem if their life depended on it. I think it's b/c the guys who are good at real-world math problems don't get jobs writing textbooks. |
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Quoted: Math has never been about getting the right answer, but about demonstrating why the answer MUST be the answer. Plato says that the mathematical arts of arithmetic, geometry, music, and astronomy are the only studies that enlighten the soul to higher things. You seem to be stuck in slave-mentality math, which sees math as a tool to do a job. I advise you to seek to understand the relationships first before you move to applications <–– high school math teacher. Most math teachers are horrible at communicating or teaching mathematics. Almost all of you talk about how you can understand or love math as if that is reason enough to do better at it.  Typical math teacher - "Math is great. Since math is great I sought to understand it. You should understand math too because its great. You should all be doing as well as me and understand things like I do because of how awesome math is." Yeah, that doesn't really help someone who is struggling to understand the poor instruction you and most of your peers have given people their entire lives.
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Math has never been about getting the right answer, but about demonstrating why the answer MUST be the answer. Plato says that the mathematical arts of arithmetic, geometry, music, and astronomy are the only studies that enlighten the soul to higher things. You seem to be stuck in slave-mentality math, which sees math as a tool to do a job. I advise you to seek to understand the relationships first before you move to applications <–– high school math teacher. OP ... listen to this guy and TrojanMan ... understand what you're doing, don't try to memorize everything. Once you understand the concepts, it'll be much easier. Don't advance out of this class without really understanding it - you'll get totally destroyed later ( if you have to take Calc II, III, Diff Eq, Advanced Math, etc) |
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Math has never been about getting the right answer, but about demonstrating why the answer MUST be the answer. Plato says that the mathematical arts of arithmetic, geometry, music, and astronomy are the only studies that enlighten the soul to higher things. You seem to be stuck in slave-mentality math, which sees math as a tool to do a job. I advise you to seek to understand the relationships first before you move to applications <–– high school math teacher. Wow, get out of the ivory tower recently? |
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... all fucking math is is applying the god damn motherfucking rule to a set type of operation,... http://darkskymagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/yoda.jpg This is why you fail. No shit. That wasn't true of anything harder than high school precalc. really OK smartypants find the equation of the tangent line at y=(5x^2 +100x)^10 at (-5,0) |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I hated math too because I am unable to relate to those stupid meaningless equation in the book that have answers that don't mean shit. I need practical application to be able to "get it" Word problems for differential equations are worse than abstract concepts. Because they are written by math majors who think in abstract terms and wouldn't be able to write a practical problem if their life depended on it. I think it's b/c the guys who are good at real-world math problems don't get jobs writing textbooks. The best math teachers I have ever had actually had to use math in the real world. Like the retired aerospace executive or the retired engineer I had for professors. Nearly all of the academic types in k-12 or college couldn't teach math if their lives depended on it. Most couldn't perform basic math. Some would rant about their breaks with reality and how God told them to become Baptist, then Jewish and then Muslim. The worst were the ones who would tell the class to teach itself while they played with their calculators at their desks and taught nothing. |
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Math has never been about getting the right answer, but about demonstrating why the answer MUST be the answer. Plato says that the mathematical arts of arithmetic, geometry, music, and astronomy are the only studies that enlighten the soul to higher things. You seem to be stuck in slave-mentality math, which sees math as a tool to do a job. I advise you to seek to understand the relationships first before you move to applications <–– high school math teacher. yes, you are correct BECAUSE I HATE MATH therefore to me, it IS about getting the right answer. On the teaching side, it might be about demonstrating why, but when it comes to getting a grade, having a - in the wrong place is just as bad as having the whole damn problem wrong. If it is rule application, tell me the fucking rule. Don't make me look at some stupid ass long algebraic equation that means nothing when it would be easier to just say "to take the derivative, multiply exponent by integer in front of x, place that number in front of x instead, and subtract 1 from the exponent" I just about set my damn math book on fire trying to figure out something stupid simple like that.........I get logic, and I love it. I cannot stand things that are so complicated they are fucking meaningless when a simple rule would suffice. I don't give a flying fuck WHY it works, just that it does (and the proper way to do that operation) |
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Just buy a TI-89 and keep your mouth shut. This with a solutions manual. Nobody ever told me about solutions manuals when I was a freshman in college and I was confused as hell for the calc 1. Calc 1 is a bitch, calc 4 is a bitch. The middle two weren't too bad. Learn how to use the solutions manual and how to program notes in your calculator for how to do the steps. Eventually you'll get use to doing the steps and won't need it, but it helps during a test. Don't listen to this bullshit about how you have to know math to a phd level to have a good life. I've worked with plenty of engineers and was talking to the head of engineering for my company today and they all say how you'll never use most of it after school. |
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... all fucking math is is applying the god damn motherfucking rule to a set type of operation,... http://darkskymagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/yoda.jpg This is why you fail. No shit. That wasn't true of anything harder than high school precalc. really OK smartypants find the equation of the tangent line at y=(5x^2 +100x)^10 at (-5,0) Easy. 87=87x+b^87 |
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Just buy a TI-89 and keep your mouth shut. This with a solutions manual. Nobody ever told me about solutions manuals when I was a freshman in college and I was confused as hell for the calc 1. Calc 1 is a bitch, calc 4 is a bitch. The middle two weren't too bad. Learn how to use the solutions manual and how to program notes in your calculator for how to do the steps. Eventually you'll get use to doing the steps and won't need it, but it helps during a test. Don't listen to this bullshit about how you have to know math to a phd level to have a good life. I've worked with plenty of engineers and was talking to the head of engineering for my company today and they all say how you'll never use most of it after school. I'm not worried about using it in the world, only about getting a good grade. I see college as a bunch of useless classes that I must take in order to fill up my schedule around the 1 class that I actually need. |
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... all fucking math is is applying the god damn motherfucking rule to a set type of operation,... http://darkskymagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/yoda.jpg This is why you fail. No shit. That wasn't true of anything harder than high school precalc. really OK smartypants find the equation of the tangent line at y=(5x^2 +100x)^10 at (-5,0) it has to be perpindicular right? Find the slope... Slope there is y'=10(10x+100)(5x^2+100x)^9 no? Make a linear equation to touch with a slope equal to -1/y' at a given value. It's been 4 years since calc and 3 years since any math at all but... was I starting it right? ETA: I was wrong. It's parallel so the slope of the linear line is just y'. I am lame |
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... all fucking math is is applying the god damn motherfucking rule to a set type of operation,... http://darkskymagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/yoda.jpg This is why you fail. No shit. That wasn't true of anything harder than high school precalc. really OK smartypants find the equation of the tangent line at y=(5x^2 +100x)^10 at (-5,0) it has to be perpindicular right? Find the slope... Slope there is y'=10(10x+100)(5x^2+100x)^9 no? Make a linear equation to touch with a slope equal to y' at a given value. It's been 4 years since calc and 3 years since any math at all but... was I starting it right? You on the right path, except, it is tangent, not perpendicular, so it is parallel to the curve at that specific point. Sub the number in to find the slope With X, Y, and slope, you can write the linear equation. Remember, he did ask for the equation of the slope. |
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You on the right path, except, it is tangent, not perpendicular, so it is parallel to the curve at that specific point. Sub the number in to find the slope With X, Y, and slope, you can write the linear equation. Remember, he did ask for the equation of the slope. Heh, thanks... |
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I hate fucking math and the 10billion fucking rules and the god damn non-exemplified problems, everything about it. Fucking going to fail my damn calc class because I can't seem to find the right way to do something. If I know what the order of ops is, I can do the problem. What I can't do is apply theory to a problem that I don't understand. FUCK THIS SHIT I FUCKING HATE MATH. Why can't they just give me a fucking example, all fucking math is is applying the god damn motherfucking rule to a set type of operation, so why the FUCK can't they just tell me what I have to remember in order to do the fucking problem rather then make me remember a fucking page long reason why the theory fucking works. FUCK MATH You fail. Mathametics is logic, it was taught as rules when one is young because the principles is a bit to complex for the simple mind. Math run our lives, from science to economics, to business, no math, no modern society. |
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... all fucking math is is applying the god damn motherfucking rule to a set type of operation,... http://darkskymagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/yoda.jpg This is why you fail. No shit. That wasn't true of anything harder than high school precalc. really OK smartypants find the equation of the tangent line at y=(5x^2 +100x)^10 at (-5,0) y' = 10(5x^2 + 100x)^9 * (10x+100)
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