[ARCHIVED THREAD] - The Watchmen... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/22/2011 4:11:10 PM EDT
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This film I still haven't gotten over... Book vs. movie aside, I'd say The Watchmen film has to be one of the most though-provoking films I've seen, right up there with 2001 and Apocalypse Now in my opinion. The idea of a flawed superheroes in a flawed world; where compromise and senseless death in the name of peace are real... When you place yourselves in the position of the characters and thing, "Would I have made that decision? Would I have stood up for what I know to be right and just, or slither away and compromise my beliefs?" I really don't know. That is what is so scary! I really don't know what I would have done in that situation. It sends shivers down my spine every time that I think about it, which seems like once every couple weeks, and its been two years since I've seen the movie.
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I liked it for the flawed super hero angle as well.
I will always remember seeing it in the theatre, as a friend of mine who is very religious thought it was a great movie till the love scene, when they played some religious song, as which point he hated the movie just on his religious principles. |
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I also greatly enjoyed the movie.
I hate how predictable Hollywood is and I was totally surprised by it. Not your typical superhero movie. It was smart and dark and twisted. Not to hijack, but I recently enjoyed the Assassination of Jesse James. Another dark TENSE movie. Excellent filming too.... But hey, I enjoyed The Thin Red Line too.... 
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| I read the graphic novel in a plane on my way to Iraq, just as the movie hit theatres. I had my Haji bootleg copy a week or so later. Anyway I thought the movie was better than the book which is almost never the case, very dark and grim. I hear the special edition has The tale of the black freighter in it. |
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Okay... I'll say it. When I finished the graphic novel? When the movie was over? I thought to myself... "Wow, that was a long way to go for that." Frankly, I didn't think the payoff was worth it, in either case. (I thought the movie ending was better, BTW.) However, at least as far as the movie was concerned, I thought, "Okay, I fucking get it. I don't need to be beaten over the head for two hours, all for a punch line that you could have gotten from a quality short-story." For Christ's sake... halfway through, I was starting to think that Ayn Rand wrote it. |
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Okay... I'll say it. When I finished the graphic novel? When the movie was over? I thought to myself... "Wow, that was a long way to go for that." Frankly, I didn't think the payoff was worth it, in either case. (I thought the movie ending was better, BTW.) However, at least as far as the movie was concerned, I thought, "Okay, I fucking get it. I don't need to be beaten over the head for two hours, all for a punch line that you could have gotten from a quality short-story." For Christ's sake... halfway through, I was starting to think that Ayn Rand wrote it. Glad I wasn't the only one who was underwhelmed by the book. I hated the whole "this is the only way to save humanity from itself" angle, seeing as how the cold war wound down without Armageddon happening. The whole idea that we need better minds to do the hard thinking for us is insulting. |
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Im not into comics, superheros, or any of that shit so Watchmen flew under my radar when first released. Eventually a nerdy co-worker convinced me to watch it after work one night.
pretty much blew my mind. So much to like. When that intro kicked in i knew i was in for a special film, and it stood up to that expectation. |
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Quoted: Frankly, not trying to be a jerk ("Well, I read this and I read that...") but Harlan Ellison or Ray Bradbury could give you the same message in 15 pages.Quoted: Glad I wasn't the only one who was underwhelmed by the book. I hated the whole "this is the only way to save humanity from itself" angle, seeing as how the cold war wound down without Armageddon happening. The whole idea that we need better minds to do the hard thinking for us is insulting.Okay... I'll say it. When I finished the graphic novel? When the movie was over? I thought to myself... "Wow, that was a long way to go for that." Frankly, I didn't think the payoff was worth it, in either case. (I thought the movie ending was better, BTW.) However, at least as far as the movie was concerned, I thought, "Okay, I fucking get it. I don't need to be beaten over the head for two hours, all for a punch line that you could have gotten from a quality short-story." For Christ's sake... halfway through, I was starting to think that Ayn Rand wrote it. And, with a punchier ending. The movie looked great, no doubt. (I own it on Blu-Ray.) And yet, the more I've see it... the less I think of it.
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I thought it was though provoking as well...
Seriously though, Watchmen was good. Zach should re-do V for Vendetta and un-f*ck the idiocy the Wachowski's produced. I read Watchmen before watching it, but haven't yet read V for Vendetta. I liked VfV better than Watchmen. I did like Watchmen, but if a movie can't top its credits sequence, it's just not going to be a true classic. That credit sequence was fucking DYNAMITE though. Zack Snyder can really put together images to music. The Dawn of the Dead credits were incredible as well. Makes me want to watch Suckerpunch, even though I know it's pretty much just gonna be neat to look at and maybe cool to listen to. |
| Loved the movie. I didn't read any of the graphic novels, but the movie really struck a chord with me. The alternate history stuff, the flawed heroes, and the cinematography kicked ass. I have a bloody smiley face pin on my cube wall at work. I didn't read all the posts, but I also picked up The Black Freighter and they do a Behind the Mask - type history of the Watchmen by the Watchmen. Awesome. |
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Agree, very underrated movie. Has anyone mentioned the blue cock yet? Fuck where to start?  I took the family to Universal Studios Hollywood to watch a I-Max movie but Escape to Witch Mountain was not in I-Max so I bought tickets for WM. When the Blue Dick guy and the Hot chick make out sceen happen my wife gave me the LOOK because my 6yr old was with us.
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Agree, very underrated movie. Has anyone mentioned the blue cock yet? Fuck where to start? I took the family to Universal Studios Hollywood to watch a I-Max movie but Escape to Witch Mountain was not in I-Max so I bought tickets for WM. When the Blue Dick guy and the Hot chick make out sceen happen my wife gave me the LOOK because my 6yr old was with us."Well, this family friendly film is sold out...let's take Jr. to the hard R flick! What could go wrong?" Probably best to know what movie you're actually taking the urchin to see. At least it wasn't Hostel 2 or something. |
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Glad I wasn't the only one who was underwhelmed by the book. I hated the whole "this is the only way to save humanity from itself" angle, seeing as how the cold war wound down without Armageddon happening. The whole idea that we need better minds to do the hard thinking for us is insulting.[/div] It was written in '85-'86, the cold war was on like Donkey Kong at the time. The Russkies shot down an airliner killing a US Congressman in '83, Afghanistan was rocking... However, release of the comic happened to coincide fairly closely with the thaw and perestroika and all that, bad luck on Moore's part. And read the end more carefully, Dr. Manhattan predicts the failure of Ozy's plan. Hell, Ozy's name is foreshadowing his failure: I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert... Near them, on the sand, Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed. And on the pedestal these words appear –– "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.' |
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Agree, very underrated movie. Has anyone mentioned the blue cock yet? Fuck where to start? I took the family to Universal Studios Hollywood to watch a I-Max movie but Escape to Witch Mountain was not in I-Max so I bought tickets for WM. When the Blue Dick guy and the Hot chick make out sceen happen my wife gave me the LOOK because my 6yr old was with us."Well, this family friendly film is sold out...let's take Jr. to the hard R flick! What could go wrong?" Probably best to know what movie you're actually taking the urchin to see. At least it wasn't Hostel 2 or something. The other option was Dawn of the Dead. 
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I think both the graphic novel and movie are fantastic.
Watchmen is extremely interesting in that the story can be seen differently depending on the reader's point of view. Some people see Rorschach as the hero, some see Ozymandias as the hero. Or Dr Manhattan. Rorschach's stint in prision has to be the most epic part of the movie, though.
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Honestly, I thought the film was crap. Scared of the blue cock, me thinks. I just didn't like the plot or the script. yeah, even in the 80s I could tell it was another barely hidden rip on President Reagan and of course Al Moore confirmed this in later interviews about the series I tired of being preached politics in entertainment at a young age, 
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I wouldn't say I didn't like it, but it wasn't quite what I was expecting when first seen in the theater. Loved Rorshach's scenes, overall felt the movie was a little "meh".
However with additional screenings (it was coming on HBO or Showtime or something in HD every few days for quite awhile) I grew to really like the movie. Rorshach of course continued his awesomeness, but overall all the other themes and characters grew on me. Very underrated film I think, looks like it kinda flopped a little bit from the boxofficemojo.com numbers for worldwide take. The soundtrack is first rate too, fit perfectly w/ the mood of the film, several great songs woven through there including the intro. |
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Im not into comics, superheros, or any of that shit so Watchmen flew under my radar when first released. Eventually a nerdy co-worker convinced me to watch it after work one night. pretty much blew my mind. So much to like. When that intro kicked in i knew i was in for a special film, and it stood up to that expectation. I loved the intro! |
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Im not into comics, superheros, or any of that shit so Watchmen flew under my radar when first released. Eventually a nerdy co-worker convinced me to watch it after work one night. pretty much blew my mind. So much to like. When that intro kicked in i knew i was in for a special film, and it stood up to that expectation. this. the opening was one of the best i've ever seen, and i've seen them all, the kennedy assassination scene sent chills rosoarch in prison, 'you dont understand, im not locked up in here with you, you're locked up in here with me' a very good movie.. one thing i've always wondered about, dylan's 'the times they are a changing' in the movie its longer than any other version. in addition the harmonica breaks in the later part of the song are different. i've tried several times to figure out was it re-dubbed by dylan or somehow modified from the original.. |