[ARCHIVED THREAD] - FN SCAR? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/14/2011 9:51:22 AM EDT
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What's up with all of the butt love for this weapon? Its gotta be one of the ugliest things I have ever seen. Its so blocky and chunky looking I almost thought Glock was going to be making it when pics of the thing started showing up. Do they shoot better than an AR? As far as how they handle, in my opinion they are rather unwieldy compared to an AK or AR. But that is just from finger banging the display model at gun shows.
Just going off of looks the ACR looks more stream lined, but apparently the inner workings of the thing are a massive pile of fail. Is it all because it was on Call of Duty or some shit and air soft weenies slobber over them? |
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What's up with all of the butt love for this weapon? Its gotta be one of the ugliest things I have ever seen. Its so blocky and chunky looking I almost thought Glock was going to be making it when pics of the thing started showing up. Do they shoot better than an AR? As far as how they handle, in my opinion they are rather unwieldy compared to an AK or AR. But that is just from finger banging the display model at gun shows. Just going off of looks the ACR looks more stream lined, but apparently the inner workings of the thing are a massive pile of fail. Is it all because it was on Call of Duty or some shit and air soft weenies slobber over them? Uh....shoot one. Then remove head from sphincter. |
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What's up with all of the butt love for this weapon? Its gotta be one of the ugliest things I have ever seen. Its so blocky and chunky looking I almost thought Glock was going to be making it when pics of the thing started showing up. Do they shoot better than an AR? As far as how they handle, in my opinion they are rather unwieldy compared to an AK or AR. But that is just from finger banging the display model at gun shows. Just going off of looks the ACR looks more stream lined, but apparently the inner workings of the thing are a massive pile of fail. Is it all because it was on Call of Duty or some shit and air soft weenies slobber over them? Read up on how/ why it was developed and also shoot one. |
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I'm sure you've taken the time to actually hold, fire, take apart for a great deal of time before making such a strong opinionated review of something correct? Oh yeah I'm in GD...
Check out buddyhoohaw's drop dead gorgeous SCAR SBR if you really want a gun that not only looks great, your selling point, but a great little shooter that he regularly uses. Scroll Down through this page... 
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Reciprocating charge handle = :( Try it before you judge. Remember, you can switch sides with it...and you can replace it with a bent one, a hooked one, one that looks like a goddamn banana, etc. It's not a fixed piece (other than it's fixed in the bolt carrier, that is) |
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I'm sure you've taken the time to actually hold, fire, take apart for a great deal of time before making such a strong opinionated review of something correct? Oh yeah I'm in GD... Check out buddyhoohaw's drop dead gorgeous SCAR SBR if you really want a gun that not only looks great, your selling point, but a great little shooter that he regularly uses. Scroll Down through this page...
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What's up with all of the butt love for this weapon? Its gotta be one of the ugliest things I have ever seen. Its so blocky and chunky looking I almost thought Glock was going to be making it when pics of the thing started showing up. Do they shoot better than an AR? As far as how they handle, in my opinion they are rather unwieldy compared to an AK or AR. But that is just from finger banging the display model at gun shows. Just going off of looks the ACR looks more stream lined, but apparently the inner workings of the thing are a massive pile of fail. Is it all because it was on Call of Duty or some shit and air soft weenies slobber over them? It's rugged and reliable, not to mention extensively tested. It comes from the factory already set up for add-on accessories (rails on different points on the weapon). It's easy to maintain and adaptable. It has good stock iron sights, and the controls are easy to take to for anyone with experience in Stoner-type platforms (although it has a couple of extra bells and whistles for convenience). And from personal experience with mine, it is accurate. Plus, felt recoil is negligible (a bonus for recoil-sensitive or new shooters). Unlike many SCAR critics, I actually like the factory stock. Is that good enough for you? |
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Quoted: the call of duty and airsoft weenies go by looks, what do you go by again?What's up with all of the butt love for this weapon? Its gotta be one of the ugliest things I have ever seen. Its so blocky and chunky looking I almost thought Glock was going to be making it when pics of the thing started showing up. Do they shoot better than an AR? As far as how they handle, in my opinion they are rather unwieldy compared to an AK or AR. But that is just from finger banging the display model at gun shows. Just going off of looks the ACR looks more stream lined, but apparently the inner workings of the thing are a massive pile of fail. Is it all because it was on Call of Duty or some shit and air soft weenies slobber over them? |
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We all know how cool a weapon looks is the TRUE measure of it's worth! Oh for fucks sake. Read the guy's goddamn post before you shit all over him. It wasn't just looks. He totally pointed out that he fucked with it for, like, five whole minutes at a gun show. |
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Most of the butt love is there because SOCOM used it. FWIW, FN did get the balance and weight right. They also make excellent barrels. Well, let me put it this way: The first rifle....hell, GUN, I ever purchased was an FN FAL variant (an L1A1 kit on an Entreprise pre-ban reciever, to be specific). I loved it then, and I love it now. The FAL system/platform is fantastic, IMO. Simple, it works, it's reliable, and it's been in use/service since the 50's with very little change (see the recent Libya threads for FAL porn) It's safe to say the FAL is my favorite rifle, sharing a place with the AR. The AR is my favored platform in .223, the FAL is my favored platform in .308. Or was. Until I bought a SCAR-H. It recoils less. It has better optic mounting options. The reliability has actually improved, which I thought would be impossible over the FAL. Easily changeable barrels means I can SBR my SCAR and mark the barrel, and just swap out barrels all day long if I want to convert it. It's stupid easy to clean. The barrel/gas block has settings for both normal and supressed shooting, which is above and beyond what most USGI weapons offer, let alone civvy guns. Oh, and as an added bonus...it's being actively fielded by our fine servicemen overseas. Yeah....they won me, and it took a lot to do it, but they did. |
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We all know how cool a weapon looks is the TRUE measure of it's worth! Oh for fucks sake. Read the guy's goddamn post before you shit all over him. It wasn't just looks. He totally pointed out that he fucked with it for, like, five whole minutes at a gun show. Which still isn't a good indicator of how good a firearm is. I've inspected rifles at gun shops and gun shows, and said "meh". When I finally got a chance for some trigger time on them, I liked what I saw. Now, examples sit in my gun safe. Basing opinions on finger fucking a weapon is like judging a book by it's cover. One has a tendency to miss out on something potentially good. |
| I'm not sold on the 16, a freind has one and other then weight it brings nothing new and exciting to the table other than higher price, that said, I absolutly love my 17, light, accurate, and little to know felt recoil! A 308 that carries easier than a 556, whats not to love? |
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Reciprocating charge handle = :( I have mine on the right side, and it causes me no problems whatsoever. Its high enough and compact enough that I don't foresee any issues, but I can see why some would be concerned with the idea until they have handled/shot one. |
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Reciprocating charge handle = :( I have mine on the right side, and it causes me no problems whatsoever. Its high enough and compact enough that I don't foresee any issues, but I can see why some would be concerned with the idea until they have handled/shot one. I agree. Not quite sure why everyone gets all bothered by this. I have yet to have one issue. Does that mean nothing ill occurring will ever happen b/c of it? No. I understand there could be times when its a pain but I have yet to find one yet. As for the 17 I want one something bad!
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Reciprocating charge handle = :( I have mine on the right side, and it causes me no problems whatsoever. Its high enough and compact enough that I don't foresee any issues, but I can see why some would be concerned with the idea until they have handled/shot one. I agree. Not quite sure why everyone gets all bothered by this. I have yet to have one issue. Does that mean nothing ill occurring will ever happen b/c of it? No. I understand there could be times when its a pain but I have yet to find one yet. As for the 17 I want one something bad! Thats what mine is. I love it, and I know the price is a serious issue, but it really is an awesome piece. Sooooo glad I bought it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We all know how cool a weapon looks is the TRUE measure of it's worth! Oh for fucks sake. Read the guy's goddamn post before you shit all over him. It wasn't just looks. He totally pointed out that he fucked with it for, like, five whole minutes at a gun show. Which still isn't a good indicator of how good a firearm is. I've inspected rifles at gun shops and gun shows, and said "meh". When I finally got a chance for some trigger time on them, I liked what I saw. Now, examples sit in my gun safe. Basing opinions on finger fucking a weapon is like judging a book by it's cover. One has a tendency to miss out on something potentially good. I see someone needs their sarcasm meter calibrated. |
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quote]the call of duty and airsoft weenies go by looks, what do you go by again?
[/quote] Actually since I am not a secret squirel type and my background of hobbies is hot rodding cars. The way a weapon looks has alot to do If I am gonna purchase one. Kinda like cars, who gives a shit if its fast, if its ugly. Just my opinion. And COD weenies go by what a game says the most powerful gun is. I know cause I've overheard the conversations when out camping with the Boy Scout troop I help. Air Soft Weenies or ASW.....Just masterbate to the latest and greatest of what the special forces guys use. I have heard these conversations too. Fat bitches may know how to suck a dick but in the end their still fat. |
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Reciprocating charge handle = :( Reciprocating charge handle on the M1 Garand = :( Reciprocating charge handle on the M14 = :( Reciprocating charge handle on the Benelli Super 90= :( All the rest of the fucking Reciprocating charge handles = fuck the fuck fuckety fuck!!
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We all know how cool a weapon looks is the TRUE measure of it's worth! Oh for fucks sake. Read the guy's goddamn post before you shit all over him. It wasn't just looks. He totally pointed out that he fucked with it for, like, five whole minutes at a gun show. Which still isn't a good indicator of how good a firearm is. I've inspected rifles at gun shops and gun shows, and said "meh". When I finally got a chance for some trigger time on them, I liked what I saw. Now, examples sit in my gun safe. Basing opinions on finger fucking a weapon is like judging a book by it's cover. One has a tendency to miss out on something potentially good[/b]. The last bit of your post is certainly true. |
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Quoted: What's up with all of the butt love for this weapon? Its gotta be one of the ugliest things I have ever seen. Its so blocky and chunky looking I almost thought Glock was going to be making it when pics of the thing started showing up. Do they shoot better than an AR? As far as how they handle, in my opinion they are rather unwieldy compared to an AK or AR. But that is just from finger banging the display model at gun shows. Just going off of looks the ACR looks more stream lined, but apparently the inner workings of the thing are a massive pile of fail. Is it all because it was on Call of Duty or some shit and air soft weenies slobber over them? It's a combat rifle (and a damned good one), not a fucking prom dress. |
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As a civilian, I can't imagine a situation my SCAR-17 couldn't handle. For my money, its the perfect gun if you can't tote around a whole aresenal. .308 power, capacity, reasonably light weight, adjustable comb/LOP, easy to accessorize, ambidextrous, combat accurate, breaks down easily....I could keep going. The only knocks on it are spare parts and magazine availablitly (buy 2 rifles for parts and cut one barrel for quick change SBR feature, and mags are there if you look hard enough), and cost. Buy once, cry once. Can't figure how looks are relative, but it's your money so your choice. |
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We all know how cool a weapon looks is the TRUE measure of it's worth! Oh for fucks sake. Read the guy's goddamn post before you shit all over him. It wasn't just looks. He totally pointed out that he fucked with it for, like, five whole minutes at a gun show. Which still isn't a good indicator of how good a firearm is. I've inspected rifles at gun shops and gun shows, and said "meh". When I finally got a chance for some trigger time on them, I liked what I saw. Now, examples sit in my gun safe. Basing opinions on finger fucking a weapon is like judging a book by it's cover. One has a tendency to miss out on something potentially good. I see someone needs their sarcasm meter calibrated. Mine's broke. Cheap Pakistani made model. 
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Ive held one and played with it a bit. I see alot of you own and love them. My first impression was that it was heavy and clunky. But for someone who hasn't spent much time with it I can't fully judge the rifle.
Edit to add I could see where the charging handle would be some what of an issue. I find myself resting my gun on a lot of different rests for example: sides of buildings, poles, tree crotch, various places on atvs. The charging handle could potentionaly get in the way. But it wouldn't be very hard to just work around it... On the same token one would think that they could have designed the gun with a static charging handle just as easily. I don't have a bais to any gun. Just my observation. The charging handle wouldn't prevent me from buying a rifle if I really like it. Like I said just and observation. |
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Quoted: Ive held one and played with it a bit. I see alot of you own and love them. My first impression was that it was heavy and clunky. But for someone who hasn't spent much time with it I can't fully judge the rifle. Edit to add I could see where the charging handle would be some what of an issue. I find myself resting my gun on a lot of different rests for example: sides of buildings, poles, tree crotch, various places on atvs. The charging handle could potentionaly get in the way. But it wouldn't be very hard to just work around it... On the same token one would think that they could have designed the gun with a static charging handle just as easily. I don't have a bais to any gun. Just my observation. The charging handle wouldn't prevent me from buying a rifle if I really like it. Like I said just and observation. The reciprocating charging handle was selected by SOCOM. FN had a non-reciprocating designas well. And the reciprocating design has some advantages. For one, if you're a righty, you can tell the position of the bolt just by glancing at the handle in the firing position. You can tell if the bolt is fully seated, or if it's locked back on an empty magazine. Honestly, once you get a little practice on the weapon, the handle is a complete non-issue. |
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Ive held one and played with it a bit. I see alot of you own and love them. My first impression was that it was heavy and clunky. But for someone who hasn't spent much time with it I can't fully judge the rifle. Edit to add I could see where the charging handle would be some what of an issue. I find myself resting my gun on a lot of different rests for example: sides of buildings, poles, tree crotch, various places on atvs. The charging handle could potentionaly get in the way. But it wouldn't be very hard to just work around it... On the same token one would think that they could have designed the gun with a static charging handle just as easily. I don't have a bais to any gun. Just my observation. The charging handle wouldn't prevent me from buying a rifle if I really like it. Like I said just and observation. I think these could be addressed as training issues. The same way you may train to not stand behind an AT-4 for example. Usually those who do may only do it once or twice I'm guessing. |
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Ive held one and played with it a bit. I see alot of you own and love them. My first impression was that it was heavy and clunky. But for someone who hasn't spent much time with it I can't fully judge the rifle. Edit to add I could see where the charging handle would be some what of an issue. I find myself resting my gun on a lot of different rests for example: sides of buildings, poles, tree crotch, various places on atvs. The charging handle could potentionaly get in the way. But it wouldn't be very hard to just work around it... On the same token one would think that they could have designed the gun with a static charging handle just as easily. I don't have a bais to any gun. Just my observation. The charging handle wouldn't prevent me from buying a rifle if I really like it. Like I said just and observation. Heavy? Are you a women? |
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Ive held one and played with it a bit. I see alot of you own and love them. My first impression was that it was heavy and clunky. But for someone who hasn't spent much time with it I can't fully judge the rifle. Edit to add I could see where the charging handle would be some what of an issue. I find myself resting my gun on a lot of different rests for example: sides of buildings, poles, tree crotch, various places on atvs. The charging handle could potentionaly get in the way. But it wouldn't be very hard to just work around it... On the same token one would think that they could have designed the gun with a static charging handle just as easily. I don't have a bais to any gun. Just my observation. The charging handle wouldn't prevent me from buying a rifle if I really like it. Like I said just and observation. Heavy? Are you a women? This... It's about as heavy as a double-glock |