Posted: 9/12/2011 5:48:09 PM EDT
| How is it that many of the better NFL QB's thru the years played at realtively minor colleges? Tom Brady & Johnny U are but two examples, IMO. I personally find it hard to believe that these guys made a huge leap in talent between their leaving college & their NFL rookie season. So why did the bigger football schools miss on these guys? |
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How is it that many of the better NFL QB's thru the years played at realtively minor colleges? Tom Brady & Johnny U are but two examples, IMO. I personally find it hard to believe that these guys made a huge leap in talent between their leaving college & their NFL rookie season. So why did the bigger football schools miss on these guys? Bob, how did you forget the best qb in the last century, Kurt Warner? |
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How is it that many of the better NFL QB's thru the years played at realtively minor colleges? Tom Brady & Johnny U are but two examples, IMO. I personally find it hard to believe that these guys made a huge leap in talent between their leaving college & their NFL rookie season. So why did the bigger football schools miss on these guys? I dont think Michigan or Louisville (?) are "minor" |
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Quoted: Some QBs might not "fit" into the schools scheme.How is it that many of the better NFL QB's thru the years played at realtively minor colleges? Tom Brady & Johnny U are but two examples, IMO. I personally find it hard to believe that these guys made a huge leap in talent between their leaving college & their NFL rookie season. So why did the bigger football schools miss on these guys? Not a QB but the running back for the Patriots (cant think of his name off hand) from Nebraska got over looked by Bill Callahan and hes an excellent running back. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Some QBs might not "fit" into the schools scheme.How is it that many of the better NFL QB's thru the years played at realtively minor colleges? Tom Brady & Johnny U are but two examples, IMO. I personally find it hard to believe that these guys made a huge leap in talent between their leaving college & their NFL rookie season. So why did the bigger football schools miss on these guys? Not a QB but the running back for the Patriots (cant think of his name off hand) from Nebraska got over looked by Bill Callahan and hes an excellent running back. Danny Woodhead, Chadron State College. |
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How is it that many of the better NFL QB's thru the years played at realtively minor colleges? Tom Brady & Johnny U are but two examples, IMO. I personally find it hard to believe that these guys made a huge leap in talent between their leaving college & their NFL rookie season. So why did the bigger football schools miss on these guys? Bob, how did you forget the best qb in the last century, Kurt Warner? +1!!! I love Kurt Warner. |
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Quoted: Thank you!!!Quoted: Quoted: Some QBs might not "fit" into the schools scheme.How is it that many of the better NFL QB's thru the years played at realtively minor colleges? Tom Brady & Johnny U are but two examples, IMO. I personally find it hard to believe that these guys made a huge leap in talent between their leaving college & their NFL rookie season. So why did the bigger football schools miss on these guys? Not a QB but the running back for the Patriots (cant think of his name off hand) from Nebraska got over looked by Bill Callahan and hes an excellent running back. Danny Woodhead, Chadron State College. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Thank you!!!Quoted: Quoted: Some QBs might not "fit" into the schools scheme.How is it that many of the better NFL QB's thru the years played at realtively minor colleges? Tom Brady & Johnny U are but two examples, IMO. I personally find it hard to believe that these guys made a huge leap in talent between their leaving college & their NFL rookie season. So why did the bigger football schools miss on these guys? Not a QB but the running back for the Patriots (cant think of his name off hand) from Nebraska got over looked by Bill Callahan and hes an excellent running back. Danny Woodhead, Chadron State College. |
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Its amazing how many of the top NFL quarterbacks were late picks. The greatest quarterback of all time, Joe Montana, was drafted in the 3rd round.
Figuring out who will succeed in the NFL(or college for that matter) at quarterback is not an exact science. Case in point: Jamarcus Russel. |
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Its amazing how many of the top NFL quarterbacks were late picks. The greatest quarterback of all time, Joe Montana, was drafted in the 3rd round. Figuring out who will succeed in the NFL(or college for that matter) at quarterback is not an exact science. Case in point: Jamarcus Russel. andre ware david klingler akili smith ryan leaf joey harrington |
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Namath and The Snake went to Alabama Johnny Unitas went to Louisville Griese went to Purdue Marino went to Pitt Joe Money went to ND Steve Young went to BYU Elway went to Stanford Kosar, Kelly, and Vinnie Interception went to The 'U' Payton went to Tennessee Brady went to Michigan (so did Henne) None of these are 'Small' Schools. |
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How is it that many of the better NFL QB's thru the years played at realtively minor colleges? Tom Brady & Johnny U are but two examples, IMO. I personally find it hard to believe that these guys made a huge leap in talent between their leaving college & their NFL rookie season. So why did the bigger football schools miss on these guys? Really? Modern- Peyton Manning - Tennessee Mike Vick - Virginia Tech Tom Brady - Michigan Aaron Rogers - California Mark Sanchez - USC Drew Breese - Purdue Matt Ryan - Boston College Kyle Orton - Purdue Matt Cassel - USC Carson Palmer - USC Sam Bradford - OU Classic- Joe Montana - Notre Dame Dan Marino - Pitt John Elway - Stanford Bernie Kosar - Miami Steve Young - BYU Troy Aikman - UCLA Joe Namath - Alabama There are some great QBs that have come from non-powerhouse schools, but if you really want to have fun you should look at the all-time greats at RB and WR and the schools that they came from. |
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Recruiting is an inexact science to say the least.
If you look at the USA today, top 10 high school, four years later most of those players don't pan out. Many players will go to the wrong school with a system that doesn't fit their skills. ...or the coach who recruited you, gets fired after your redshirt year and the new coach brings in an offense that doesn't fit your skills., you are now fucked! Another common scenario, you were the # 10 QB in the nation, when you came out of HS, The following year your school gets the #3 rated QB in the nation, well now your fucked! This guy is the coaches darling and whether he sucks or not, the coach is going to ride with him. Most guys will transfer to a smaller school to get PT, if the school will let them out of their commitment. There may be a big emotional, maturation, and even physical growth say between junior/senior year. Some guys are simply late bloomers. Some guys wake up one day during their junior/senior year and football simply starts making sense to them, the game slows down, they begin to understand it better and their passion/desire to play gets serious. Some guys just realize all of a sudden that they have the talent to go to the league if they "get serious" so they put in the work to make that happen. Sometimes it really does happen overnight, I've seen that happen. |
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The big name colleges aren't necessarily missing on those guys - they just are more concerned about winning the college game than producing a star NFL QB. As mentioned above, not all big-time colleges run offenses geared towards the production of a successful NFL quarterback. IMHO, you see that most obviously with the athletic running QBs - Pryor at OSU, Robinson at Michigan, Tebow at Florida, and Young at UT come immediately to mind. Those guys (the ones who have graduated) didn't develop a good passing game in college and as a result I am less than optimistic about their chances in the NFL. When they are somewhat successful, it's only for a few years. Eventually they can't outrun the defense and never developed a passing game (yes, McNabb, I'm looking at you). And even with a somewhat more passing-oriented offense, not all successful college coaches are capable of developing successful NFL quarterbacks. Steve Spurrier comes to mind - guy is a very successful college coach, but I can't think of any QB that played for him who went on to have anything more than a mediocre NFL career. |
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Bigger schools/football factories recruit better talent. That means they also recruit better lineman. A quarterback at Oklahoma, for instance, is probably going to get hurried, knocked down and sacked less than a QB at school like Southern Mississippi.
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Brent Favre, Southern Mississippi who? You know, that douchefaggot who played QB for the Packers there for a while. http://i54.tinypic.com/ifx5x5.jpg You mean Brett Favre? 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Brent Favre, Southern Mississippi who? You know, that douchefaggot who played QB for the Packers there for a while. http://i54.tinypic.com/ifx5x5.jpg You mean Brett Favre? I can rule out two people in this thread who aren't Packer fans. 
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Quoted: sorry guys but Greg Cook was the best qb ever and Paul Brown knew it when he recruited him out of Miami U (ohio). Too bad Paul's dynasty ran those franchises into the ground and Greg got injured too early. He was playing Miami, but played for the Bearcats. Cook played 12 games, so it is difficult to "know" anything about what might have been. |
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Brent Favre, Southern Mississippi who? You know, that douchefaggot who played QB for the Packers there for a while. http://i54.tinypic.com/ifx5x5.jpg You mean Brett Favre?
Bret. His parents didn't know how to properly spell Brett. Mine did. 
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) he came out of a Div I-AA school ala` Phil Simms.
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Johnny Unitas went to Louisville None of these are 'Small' Schools. In the football scheme of things, UL is indeed "small" by any means of distinction. It's only been in the last few years UL has paid any attention at all to football. I'm afraid you're confusing "small" with physical size rather than program success/history, IMO. |
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Where the fuck did Bob go? Think he realized how badly he fucked up......... or trying to see how many fish he's going to net. No, went to fucking BED, as 4:30am comes early. I missed on Brady's school, BFD. So fucking shoot me for not knowing. 
I'm also NOT speaking of just current QB's, BTW. I'm speaking of ALL of the great ones thru the years which is why I mentioned Johnny U. |