Posted: 8/20/2011 9:21:06 PM EDT
| How often do you stand there and talk to the perp about what he did and how he knows it was wrong like on cops? They stand there and lecture the perp for like 10 minutes after the arrest. Always seems forced and fake for TV. |
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I've never been a cop, but it is common (and smart) practice if (1) the crime is fairly serious, (2) you are not in a shitty mood, and (3) you are not in a terrible hurry to let the BG talk about whatever he wants to talk about, at least to begin with. People make hilarious admissions when they're "just talking," often in the form of side-splitting implicit assumptions.
I once made rude remarks to a fellow who had minutes earlier been dragged out from under a house by a police dog. He was offended and indignantly but helpfully said "I know I shot them bitches, but y'all got no reason to do me like this." |
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Ive asked them if they needed a hug after getting their ass handed to them by a 110 pound girl. They said no.
Ive told them they needed to stop crying and start acting like Billy-Bad-Ass again (which is usually why they got hooked up in the first place) when we get to the jail or the other inmates are gonna enjoy them. They cry harder. I try to be nice but it just doesn't seem to work for some reason. |
| Don't lecture, don't preach, just talk to the guy like he is a regular guy. Shoot the shit about where he went to school, if he played ball, what type of work he does. You run into the same guys time and time again. You treat them with respect (when they deserve it) and they remember it. After a few years on the job you've moved up to detectives and they've moved up in what they do. You end up sitting across from them in an interview room and the rapport is already there, makes getting that confession a whole lot easier. Worked pretty good few years I was a cop. |
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I'm big on patient education, and I talk to them in the ER sometimes... but don't generally waste my time if it obviously won't do any good.
It's all in the presentation, though... people don't usually react well to some smiling d*ck standing over them, with a smart mouth and a smirk, who snarks "Nice one, Einstein... and what have we learned?" On the other hand, treating people like people goes a long way. On occasion I'll bullsh*t with some guy who talked smack, got his ass whooped, and I'm sewing him back together. It can be as simple as pausing in my suturing, looking over the top of my safety glasses, and saying "bud... you sure didn't think this one through very well. I know you were drunk, but c'mon son..." They'll usually look at the floor and say "I know, Doc..." People KNOW what the right thing is... they just choose, for whatever reason (intoxicated, angry, love-triangle, money, etc), to do the opposite. However, sometimes it helps to have a guy like me hold up a mirror and say "Hoss, you gotta use your brain better than this, or you're gonna die young." Might help... probably doesn't most of the time. |
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It is forced. COPS came to our agency a few years ago, and every officer who they rode with said that the crew would encourage them to interact with the bad guy like that––ask them questions about their crimes, why they did it, etc. Those same officers also said they would rather not have the COPS guys ride with them again. They said they (crew) were always good guys, but they didn't like the external influence.
I prefer not to talk to a guy I just arrested. Usualy I just listen to them bitch, and threaten to 'have my badge' and that the arrest was invalid because I didn't read him his Miranda warning or some bullshit. Sometimes I find some good honky-tonk hick country music on the radio and turn it up really loud. Sometimes it makes them shut up, and sometimes it makes them bitch even more––but it's funny either way. |
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Sometimes I find some good honky-tonk hick country music on the radio and turn it up really loud. Sometimes it makes them shut up, and sometimes it makes them bitch even more––but it's funny either way. Somehow, this doesn't surprise me all about you. 
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Quoted: I always invoke my right to be silent, sometimes the cops don't like it. this. as a criminal youth (Im ashamed of it and am a good boy now) the detectives would try and act like my friend at first. just trying to "help me help myself" I would laugh and say " I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Let me know when I am free to leave and if Im not get me a lawyer because I have nothing to say to you" THey don't like that very much. |
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The BG's tend to talk more than the cops in my AO. This. Plus Cops is DRAMA TV. What do you expect??? They've got to take up the extra time with jaw-jacking instead of filling out reports & booking shit. If I do talk to someone after I arrest 'em, it's because I'm tryin to get more info out of them about bigger fish. However, that's not too often that happens right now. -SS |
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I rarely do this, but sometimes it happens if I don't arrest them. If I think they aren't completely down "the path" I may try to build some kind of rapport and maybe say something that strikes a chord. 99.9% of the time they are just saying what they think I want to hear and say what they think will get them out of the situation. For the most part, they feel bad for getting caught, not because of the illegal thing they did.
It's also not about what I say, but how I say it. I got a random phone call from a guy about six months ago, and he spent a long time tracking me down. I took him into custody for something (I can't remember), and I can't even remember if I took him to the hospital for a psych hold or to jail. Anyway, he called to thank me for being respectful of his situation (he was gakked out on meth and in the paranoid/psychotic stage) and basically treating him like a human. He said it made a difference and he's been clean ever since (2+ years when he called.) |
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Never. I couldn't care less. Exactly. Who fucking cares? I would often buy a perp a soda and give them a cigarette, though. It made the whole arrest process a lot smoother. That's why there's always a pack of Newports in the desk drawer in the holding cell area. |
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Never. I couldn't care less. Exactly. Who fucking cares? I would often buy a perp a soda and give them a cigarette, though. It made the whole arrest process a lot smoother. That's why there's always a pack of Newports in the desk drawer in the holding cell area. You're just trying to give the mopes the big C to thin the herd. |
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Rarely, if ever. Occasionally I will be dealing a juvenile or someone who I think MIGHT have it in them to change, in which case I might have a short conversation with them. ^This^ There is a reason that a lot of jurisdictions will not let COPS film ...... some officers do things in front of the camera that they would not normally do and when these stupid things happen on film a lot of the times it is called evidence. Like the one where the cop is in a pursuit and you hear his commander call it off because it is too dangerous....so the officer shuts down his lights etc. and continues to follow fast enough to keep the van in sight and the van t-bones a car as it runs the next red light..... Or "Get on it" in a vehicle pursuit and the driver has his pistol in his had while driving and the passenger has the shotgun sticking out of the window while the cop car goes the wrong way against traffic and cuts off other police units......DeeDeeDee |
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Never. I couldn't care less. Exactly. Who fucking cares? I would often buy a perp a soda and give them a cigarette, though. It made the whole arrest process a lot smoother. That's why there's always a pack of Newports in the desk drawer in the holding cell area. You're just trying to give the mopes the big C to thin the herd. Whatever, either way I come out ahead. 
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Friend of mine got a "you should know better, what you did was wrong" lecture to go with her $150 texting while driving ticket. Seems like blowhard bs to me. as a grown adult, i find it patronizing as hell. If your just gonna give a warning, by all means lecture away.
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I always invoke my right to be silent, sometimes the cops don't like it. this. as a criminal youth (Im ashamed of it and am a good boy now) the detectives would try and act like my friend at first. just trying to "help me help myself" I would laugh and say " I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Let me know when I am free to leave and if Im not get me a lawyer because I have nothing to say to you" THey don't like that very much. Yeah, you're so "ashamed," that you've mentioned it about 15 times in the past 24 hours, in two unrelated threads. You probably snitched at one point to save your own ass (nothing to be ashamed of), or you would probably be a convicted felon by now. Maybe you are and carry anyway, but either way it doesnt look good to keep mentioning your criminal record on a gun board. Glad you've turned your life around and hate liberals. Miranda is everyone's friend; I'm glad you know your rights and exercise them. |
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It always cracks me up on COPS, when the entire chain of command comes to counsel the poor ne'er do well.
Sgt- "Why did you do that? Someone could have been hurt, and then we would have had to call your momma..." (all while bad guy is ignoring him or giving him 'the dismissive nod.' Lt/Capt- Ditto above Like the captain comes out to dialogue with a shoplifting suspect...- 
I'm not ashamed to say that I do watch and I am almost always entertained. |
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If it's done on Cops, it's probably not really done on the streets. I'd venture to guess that half to three-quarters of the shit they do is strictly for TV. Sometimes you also get seven assist cars on a T-stop because they wanna get their mugs on TV (while not being the primary focus of the show).
I'm still amazed to see just how many officers don't wear their seatbelts when just on Patrol. When you get close to the call, as in rolling up a few houses away, sure take off your belt, but when just cruising the streets... put that shit on. There's no reason not to. 
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Arrest/cite or lecture. One or the other. Never both. +1 That's what I go by. Arrest/Cite = No Lecture. Warning = Optional Lecture. When I do lecture, I generally keep my lectures short, simple, to the point, and realistic. I'm not going to tell a 10 mph over the limit speeding kid that he is going to kill himself, a bus load of kids, and his baby sister if he continues to speed at 10 mph over. Instead I will tell him how a ticket could effect his graduated drivers license, his insurance rates, etc... I also try to sell my ticket or arrest and build rapport when I can. About 90% of my stops results in a 'Thank You' even if I give a ticket. |
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Depends.
If they start getting mouthy, cursing here and there, they just get ignored the entire ride. If they start asking questions, but are as polite as a criminal can be I never mind explaining the process or what actually happened. If they disagree, its on them, if they ask the same question more than once I do not answer. |
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For me, it is forced/fake. When COPS was riding with me, the cameraman kept bugging to keep doing the interview so he could get more tape. Hell, in the episode that aired that I was on, it's about 15 seconds of action and abut 8 minutes of my partner and I talking about what happened.
If the person asks me why they're being arrested, I will do my best to make them understand until I realize that they're either being a jerk or just won't get it. |
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I'm more of a listener than lecturer. I do answer some questions that pertain to the arrest.
Usually I just let them rant and cuss. The less I talk the louder they get. I have talked/lectured on juvy arrests (first timers) when I think they might take it to heart. COPS is drama tv, it's more of a training aid for what not to do. |
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I rarely do this, but sometimes it happens if I don't arrest them. If I think they aren't completely down "the path" I may try to build some kind of rapport and maybe say something that strikes a chord. 99.9% of the time they are just saying what they think I want to hear and say what they think will get them out of the situation. For the most part, they feel bad for getting caught, not because of the illegal thing they did. It's also not about what I say, but how I say it. I got a random phone call from a guy about six months ago, and he spent a long time tracking me down. I took him into custody for something (I can't remember), and I can't even remember if I took him to the hospital for a psych hold or to jail. Anyway, he called to thank me for being respectful of his situation (he was gakked out on meth and in the paranoid/psychotic stage) and basically treating him like a human. He said it made a difference and he's been clean ever since (2+ years when he called.) You sound like the cop I'd be, if I were physically able to be a cop. Keep up the good work. 
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