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8/5/2011 8:38:37 PM EDT
How many fucking times will this accidentally rocket across my room?

How long before I find the fucking detent again?
8/5/2011 8:39:41 PM EDT
[#1]
I don't know why, but I have never had a hard time installing it.
8/5/2011 8:40:19 PM EDT
[#2]
I have launched detents on two different occasions, and found them months later while moving furniture. Always keep a few extra on hand.
8/5/2011 8:41:59 PM EDT
[#3]




Quoted:

I don't know why, but I have never had a hard time installing it.




All it took for me was one time of launching it into oblivion and since then I've never had a problem.
8/5/2011 8:42:24 PM EDT
[#4]
I always have a bag full of extras in my kit as I know I'm bound to lose one with each rifle I build.

Safety glasses are a must.
8/5/2011 8:42:58 PM EDT
[#5]
I vacuum and that will usually do it.
8/5/2011 8:43:00 PM EDT
[#6]
Plastic bags are your friend when installing little springs that like to get away.
8/5/2011 8:43:57 PM EDT
[#7]
Install it inside of a trash bag so it doesn't launch into gun part heaven.
8/5/2011 8:44:15 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I always have a bag full of extras in my kit as I know I'm bound to lose one with each rifle I build.

Safety glasses are a must.


I felt the wind off the first launch.

I took a 2 hour break, came back. Immediately stumbled upon the detent on the floor. Then proceeded to launch that motherfucker again.
8/5/2011 8:44:28 PM EDT
[#9]
<––––- See title.
8/5/2011 8:44:37 PM EDT
[#10]
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Plastic bags are your friend when installing little springs that like to get away.


yup.

of course, my first assy had a too-long detent spring...that made things a little more confusing and frustrating.

8/5/2011 8:44:52 PM EDT
[#11]
Put a plastic bag over the end of your lower, pole your installation tools through the bag to work , if it flirs it will stay in the bag.
8/5/2011 8:45:08 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Plastic bags are your friend when installing little springs that like to get away.


this...do the install inside of a plastic bag..then..when the spring and detent get away from you they stay in the bag
8/5/2011 8:45:56 PM EDT
[#13]
I haven't launched one in a long time, though.
8/5/2011 8:48:18 PM EDT
[#14]
I always do that part with an open cardboard box in front of the lower.
8/5/2011 8:49:13 PM EDT
[#15]
If you fool with a lot of AR's, Brownells sells a really neat little tool for this.
Linky
8/5/2011 9:19:18 PM EDT
[#16]


lol these theads crack me up... to be young

8/5/2011 9:23:11 PM EDT
[#17]
Giving up on the search for the elusive detent.

Search will resume on Sunday evening.
8/5/2011 9:30:48 PM EDT
[#18]

I read enough horror stories about this before I did my first build, so I installed it in bed, under the sheets with a flashlight... if it launched, it wasn't going to go far.
Went smoothly enough... did the next one at the workbench. No sweat, just be careful.


8/5/2011 9:42:14 PM EDT
[#19]
Clevis pin and all that.
8/5/2011 9:50:04 PM EDT
[#20]



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Clevis pin and all that.


Smart people find a tool.  Smarter people make a tool.  5/32" drill bit, 1/4" dowel.  This and a pin punch have it solved.
 
8/5/2011 9:56:32 PM EDT
[#21]
I use a $1 clevis pin

No way I'm going to pay Brownells or anyone else $15!

Read this link, about 10 posts down.
(I know it's buried but my first thread went in the archive long ago)

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/226782_Assemble_your_own_LOWER__UPPER__FREE_FLOAT__TRIGGER__GAS_BLOCK___Step_by_step_instructions_.html&page=14#i3570268

Archive version for Team Members
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/362116_How_to_install_the_front_Pivot_Pin_using_a__1_clevis_pin___56K_death.html



8/5/2011 10:05:41 PM EDT
[#22]
8/5/2011 10:11:00 PM EDT
[#23]
I just launched one last night, I'm glad I had an extra.
8/5/2011 10:19:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Clevis pin and all that.

Smart people find a tool.  Smarter people make a tool.  5/32" drill bit, 1/4" dowel.  This and a pin punch have it solved.


 


Homo fucking habilis we are.
Thumbs are not enough, you must have a forebrain.
8/5/2011 10:52:15 PM EDT
[#26]
I always use some tweezers or something to hold the detent over the spring, then use a razor blade or xacto knife blade to push it down.  then you can slip the takedown pin in right over it, remove the blade, and you are done.  
8/5/2011 11:12:50 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:

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Clevis pin and all that.

Smart people find a tool.  Smarter people make a tool.  5/32" drill bit, 1/4" dowel.  This and a pin punch have it solved.


 


Homo fucking habilis we are.
Thumbs are not enough, you must have a forebrain.

Sapiens?
8/5/2011 11:16:34 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

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Clevis pin and all that.

Smart people find a tool.  Smarter people make a tool.  5/32" drill bit, 1/4" dowel.  This and a pin punch have it solved.


 


Homo fucking habilis we are.
Thumbs are not enough, you must have a forebrain.

Sapiens?


We are now.
8/5/2011 11:19:15 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
I always use some tweezers or something to hold the detent over the spring, then use a razor blade or xacto knife blade to push it down.  then you can slip the takedown pin in right over it, remove the blade, and you are done.  


My drivers license worked great the other day when I was putting together my last build
8/6/2011 4:49:59 AM EDT
[#31]
Ahhh! Great new morning.

Just woke up. Now I can take a shower and go help my buddy move 3 and a half hours away.
8/6/2011 4:51:41 AM EDT
[#32]
Use a flathead screwdriver to hold the detent on the spring while you put the pin in.



You'll never find it.  You might as well send everything you have to me.
8/6/2011 4:52:18 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Use a flathead screwdriver to hold the detent on the spring while you put the pin in.

You'll never find it.  You might as well send everything you have to me.


Everything?
8/6/2011 4:57:33 AM EDT
[#34]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Use a flathead screwdriver to hold the detent on the spring while you put the pin in.



You'll never find it.  You might as well send everything you have to me.




Everything?


Everything.



 
8/6/2011 5:00:13 AM EDT
[#35]
Most important tool for assembling AR-15 lower:  clear trash bag.
8/6/2011 5:06:49 AM EDT
[#36]




Quoted:



My drivers license worked great the other day when I was putting together my last build


Let you legally drive to the gun store to get a new pin?

8/6/2011 5:07:24 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:

Quoted:
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Use a flathead screwdriver to hold the detent on the spring while you put the pin in.

You'll never find it.  You might as well send everything you have to me.


Everything?

Everything.
 


Come find the detent & it''s yours.
8/6/2011 5:10:11 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
If you fool with a lot of AR's, Brownells sells a really neat little tool for this.
Linky


I made my own a long time ago.

8/6/2011 5:26:53 AM EDT
[#39]
just use a flatbladed knife to hold the spring and detent in, its easy.

You DO have it on an action block, in a vice correct? that helps the most.
8/6/2011 5:28:02 AM EDT
[#40]



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Use a flathead screwdriver to hold the detent on the spring while you put the pin in.



You'll never find it.  You might as well send everything you have to me.




Everything?


Everything.

 




Come find the detent & it''s yours.


I meant everything else!  DUH!  



 
8/6/2011 5:31:18 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
I always use some tweezers or something to hold the detent over the spring, then use a razor blade or xacto knife blade to push it down.  then you can slip the takedown pin in right over it, remove the blade, and you are done.  




+1. Need a thin blade to hold it down.
8/6/2011 5:31:25 AM EDT
[#42]
It's much easier to install if you clip off some of the spring... just short enough to let the detent drop into the hole. Push it in the rest of the way with the takedown pin and your done.
8/6/2011 6:18:22 AM EDT
[#43]
While working on a build at my buddy's parents' house, his father, who was an armorer for the Army, gave me the sage advice that, when working on something like that, the first step is to just throw all the small pieces all across the room.  It's going to happen anyway and you might as well just get used to it.

"Bullshit" said I.  After spending probably 30% of the build time hunting for parts under tables, behind stoves an in the next room I began to think there might have been something to what he said.
8/6/2011 6:50:49 AM EDT
[#44]
I trim the detent spring down a few coils and that makes it 100% easier.
8/6/2011 7:00:22 AM EDT
[#45]
put your lower inside a clear plastic bag so you can  install without losing it
8/6/2011 7:04:08 AM EDT
[#46]
Sit under a sheet while you install it.  Hold the detent in place with a needle-nose pliers, and push it in flat with a razor blade.  Slide takedown pin into place over it.  I'm not going to say it's easy - it still takes 3 hands.  But it'll be easier and you won't lose the detent.
8/6/2011 7:04:13 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
I trim the detent spring down a few coils and that makes it 100% easier.


Good tip!!!
8/6/2011 7:23:10 AM EDT
[#48]



Quoted:


I always use some tweezers or something to hold the detent over the spring, then use a razor blade or xacto knife blade to push it down.  then you can slip the takedown pin in right over it, remove the blade, and you are done.  


Replace razor blade with automotive feeler gauge and this is how I did mine.



The first one I tried to put in (before figuring this method out) is still orbiting the earth.



 
8/6/2011 7:25:53 AM EDT
[#49]



Quoted:


If you fool with a lot of AR's, Brownells sells a really neat little tool for this.

Linky



Have one...works very well.



 
8/6/2011 7:32:51 AM EDT
[#50]
I keep the lower pointed up.  The two times I have had one fly, they hit the ceiling and fell back onto the table, spring too.
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