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7/8/2011 11:08:10 AM EDT
What does the hive think about Mr Johnson. I like his record of fact. I like how what he says matches his record of fact. I imagine the hate for him on Arfcom will be strong as he is very big on personal liberty.


Edit: Adding link for more information http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/about
7/8/2011 11:08:55 AM EDT
[#1]
Never heard of him
7/8/2011 11:09:17 AM EDT
[#2]
He is a nobody.

Maybe next time.

Probably not though, he can't gain the religious right's vote.  And no GOP candidate can win the presidency without it.
7/8/2011 11:22:40 AM EDT
[#3]
I like him.

ANYBODY can win the presidency.  Just a reminder to those who have forgotten who the current president is.
7/8/2011 11:25:11 AM EDT
[#4]
The funny thing is his campaign for Governor and his win played out like his campaign is currently doing. Unheard of until a few months before the election he pummeled his opponents with real issues and interrupted their spin on poor policies resulting in making his opponents look like asses.
His veto record was insane. If it wasn't constitutional or it didn't push freedom forward it got vetoed.
7/8/2011 11:36:49 AM EDT
[#5]
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The funny thing is his campaign for Governor and his win played out like his campaign is currently doing. Unheard of until a few months before the election he pummeled his opponents with real issues and interrupted their spin on poor policies resulting in making his opponents look like asses.
His veto record was insane. If it wasn't constitutional or it didn't push freedom forward it got vetoed.


A Conservative Libertarian.....I like his voting record.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GETQYNse3iY

Well worth watching.
7/8/2011 11:38:25 AM EDT
[#6]
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Never heard of him


and never will
7/8/2011 11:39:33 AM EDT
[#7]
I saw him on STOSSEL, and he instantly became my favorite candidate.

Don't be afraid of freedom, your own, or anyone else's.
7/8/2011 11:41:05 AM EDT
[#8]



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The funny thing is his campaign for Governor and his win played out like his campaign is currently doing. Unheard of until a few months before the election he pummeled his opponents with real issues and interrupted their spin on poor policies resulting in making his opponents look like asses.

His veto record was insane. If it wasn't constitutional or it didn't push freedom forward it got vetoed.


I'll have to admit that is impressive.

 
7/8/2011 11:44:04 AM EDT
[#9]
who the fuck is he?

7/8/2011 11:48:00 AM EDT
[#10]
in before team America screen caps
7/8/2011 11:52:25 AM EDT
[#11]
He'd be perfect, which is why he is un-electable.
7/8/2011 11:54:31 AM EDT
[#12]
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who the fuck is he?



Former two term governor of New Mexico, who is a true conservative, and libertarian.  If he only had a following like Ron Paul, he'd be a lock for the next POTUS.
7/8/2011 11:57:31 AM EDT
[#13]
I'm writing him in if when the GOP runs another RINO.
7/8/2011 11:59:35 AM EDT
[#14]
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who the fuck is he?



Former two term governor of New Mexico, who is a true conservative, and libertarian.  If he only had a following like Ron Paul, he'd be a lock for the next POTUS.


If he had a following like Ron Paul, he'd never see the presidency by an even larger margin.  The freaks that rabidly support Paul do him more harm than Paul's isolationist philosophy.
7/8/2011 12:03:43 PM EDT
[#15]




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who the fuck is he?







Former two term governor of New Mexico, who is a true conservative, and libertarian. If he only had a following like Ron Paul, he'd be a lock for the next POTUS.





If he had a following like Ron Paul, he'd never see the presidency by an even larger margin. The freaks that rabidly support Paul do him more harm than Paul's isolationist philosophy.


They're not called Paulistinians for nothing.

7/8/2011 12:14:23 PM EDT
[#16]
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I'm writing him in if when the GOP runs another RINO.


Same here.
7/8/2011 12:18:29 PM EDT
[#17]
Love him. Best pick for GOP nomination so far. Its sad that few people have heard of him. More executive experience than any other current candidate, and has done far more to ensure small government than anyone else. Proven winner, too.
7/8/2011 12:23:34 PM EDT
[#18]





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I like him.





ANYBODY can win the presidency.  Just a reminder to those who have forgotten who the current president is.



But he had the media's support.



And Dupe :)



http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1196610





 
7/8/2011 12:26:35 PM EDT
[#19]
I really like his actual message and that he is a great Libertarian...but he exudes a super-creepy vibe.
7/8/2011 12:28:20 PM EDT
[#20]


He came out as pro-weed a day or two ago.

He's done.

7/8/2011 12:34:08 PM EDT
[#21]
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I really like his actual message and that he is a great Libertarian...but he exudes a super-creepy vibe.


Get this, his construction company was "Big Johnson" construction.
7/8/2011 12:35:40 PM EDT
[#22]
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He came out as pro-weed a day or two ago.

He's done.



In 5 years you will certainly b on the wrong side of the issue if you are not already.  The LE/Prison industrial complex is going to get hammered under the next president is my guess.

7/8/2011 12:40:18 PM EDT
[#23]


"I am endorsing Ron Paul for the Republican nomination for
President because of his commitment to less government, greater
liberty, and lasting prosperity for America. We are at a point in this
country where we need to reduce our dependency on government and
regain control of our future. To this end, Ron Paul will bring back
troops, end the War in Iraq, and will strengthen the U.S. dollar and
the economy. For these reasons and more, Ron Paul has my support,
respect, and vote."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/01/21/idUS154136+21-Jan-2008+BW20080121

 
7/8/2011 12:41:43 PM EDT
[#24]
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He came out as pro-weed a day or two ago.

He's done.



In 5 years you will certainly b on the wrong side of the issue if you are not already.  The LE/Prison industrial complex is going to get hammered under the next president is my guess.




Stoners never show up to the polls on time to vote.



7/8/2011 12:44:22 PM EDT
[#25]
Gary Johnson gets my support in the primaries.

Would sure be nice to get a true libertarian conservative elected.

We could steal the youth vote from the Chosen one on his pro pot stance.

Elections / politics are chess, not checkers.

Which is why the dems have been doing better lately, they understand that, most Republicans dont.

We let principles stand in the way of winning....
7/8/2011 1:01:11 PM EDT
[#26]
I've been telling everyone I can about him.



trying to get the word out that there is liberty candidate in the race.
7/8/2011 1:16:24 PM EDT
[#27]





Mister Gary Johnson! (yeah I know it's Larry).















7/8/2011 1:23:46 PM EDT
[#28]
I'm thinking if he can keep the paulbots away through the primaries he has a shot. He can get the youth vote, he can get the business vote, he can get the libertarian vote. Social conservatives would rather have 4 more years of Obama or his brother Mit. Conservatives will be misled by the talking heads probably on his pot stance.

I was thinking if he promised to have a bbq at the Whitehouse and serve fried chicken, bagels  and tacos he could swing the remaining Obama voters.
7/8/2011 1:33:05 PM EDT
[#29]
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He came out as pro-weed a day or two ago.

He's done.



In 5 years you will certainly b on the wrong side of the issue if you are not already.  The LE/Prison industrial complex is going to get hammered under the next president is my guess.




Stoners never show up to the polls on time to vote.





As the elderly die off or realize a vote for a democrat is a vote for rationed (non-existent) medical care momentum will swing.  The more you go down in age the more likely the voter is to be anti-prohibition, pro-freedom, and anti-cop.  

7/8/2011 1:38:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Hope springs eternal from a Stoner's bag of cheetos.
7/8/2011 1:40:47 PM EDT
[#31]
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He came out as pro-weed a day or two ago.

He's done.



In 5 years you will certainly b on the wrong side of the issue if you are not already.  The LE/Prison industrial complex is going to get hammered under the next president is my guess.




Stoners never show up to the polls on time to vote.





As the elderly die off or realize a vote for a democrat is a vote for rationed (non-existent) medical care momentum will swing.  The more you go down in age the more likely the voter is to be anti-prohibition, pro-freedom, and anti-cop.  



Yes, the late 60s Baby Boomers / Woodstock Generation that are now hitting retirement age certainly weren't pro-dope in their earlier years.

People get older and positions change.

In other words, I doubt you are correct.


7/8/2011 1:59:31 PM EDT
[#32]



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Hope springs eternal from a Stoner's bag of cheetos.




You do realize that outside of pot, Johnson is arguably the most pro-feedom, anti-liberal governor to be elected in the past few decades, right?
 
7/8/2011 2:05:04 PM EDT
[#33]



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He came out as pro-weed a day or two ago.



He's done.





A day or two ago? He's been pro-weed forever. And here's the thing: He NEVER leads with this. He responds honestly when asked, but he has not (and never has) campaigned on it. Big deal.



And to the OP: He's the guy who's getting my vote in the primary, is who he is.



 
7/8/2011 2:07:56 PM EDT
[#34]
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He came out as pro-weed a day or two ago.

He's done.


A day or two ago? He's been pro-weed forever. And here's the thing: He NEVER leads with this. He responds honestly when asked, but he has not (and never has) campaigned on it. Big deal.

And to the OP: He's the guy who's getting my vote in the primary, is who he is.
 


here here
7/8/2011 2:09:04 PM EDT
[#35]



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Hope springs eternal from a Stoner's bag of cheetos.


During his two terms as governor of NM, he vetoed more bills than the other 49 governors COMBINED.



And if vetoing entire bills wasn't enough, he turned the line item veto into an art form. They number in the thousands.



If it wasn't a legitimate function of government, it got the axe. He actually REDUCED the size of government.          



 
7/8/2011 2:14:42 PM EDT
[#36]
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Hope springs eternal from a Stoner's bag of cheetos.

During his two terms as governor of NM, he vetoed more bills than the other 49 governors COMBINED.

And if vetoing entire bills wasn't enough, he turned the line item veto into an art form. They number in the thousands.

If it wasn't a legitimate function of government, it got the axe. He actually REDUCED the size of government.          
 


When I heard about this guy I thought he had a hellacious spin crew. Than I read everything he was saying was actually true.
7/8/2011 2:16:34 PM EDT
[#37]



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Hope springs eternal from a Stoner's bag of cheetos.




You do realize that outside of pot, Johnson is arguably the most pro-feedom, anti-liberal governor to be elected in the past few decades, right?
 
It's not about Johnson, it's about Stoners who hear free the weed and make decisions based on that and that alone.





 
7/8/2011 2:25:11 PM EDT
[#38]



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Hope springs eternal from a Stoner's bag of cheetos.




You do realize that outside of pot, Johnson is arguably the most pro-feedom, anti-liberal governor to be elected in the past few decades, right?
 
It's not about Johnson, it's about Stoners who hear free the weed and make decisions based on that and that alone.



 
Fine. Let them. They'll inadvertently end up voting for one of the most pro-freedom candidates ever, with an impeccable record as governor to match.





 
7/8/2011 3:43:38 PM EDT
[#39]
I like him.  Too bad he is not popular.
7/8/2011 3:49:09 PM EDT
[#40]
Sounds like he could be a great candidate but he needs to lay off the weed.
7/8/2011 3:50:58 PM EDT
[#41]





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Sounds like he couls be a great candidate but he needs to lay off the weed.



Lay off how? Lie? Misdirect? Change the subject? He never leads on weed. He answers honestly when asked. And they keep asking, mostly because he's running as a Republican.





 
7/8/2011 4:02:34 PM EDT
[#42]
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I really like his actual message and that he is a great Libertarian...but he exudes a super-creepy vibe.


Get this, his construction company was "Big Johnson" construction.


Funny, but wrong.  It was called Big J Enterprises.
7/8/2011 4:05:18 PM EDT
[#43]
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Hope springs eternal from a Stoner's bag of cheetos.

During his two terms as governor of NM, he vetoed more bills than the other 49 governors COMBINED.

And if vetoing entire bills wasn't enough, he turned the line item veto into an art form. They number in the thousands.

If it wasn't a legitimate function of government, it got the axe. He actually REDUCED the size of government.          
 


Then Fatass Richardson came in and re-fucked the state back into the 1800s.
7/8/2011 4:06:32 PM EDT
[#44]
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Sounds like he couls be a great candidate but he needs to lay off the weed.


Ain't about weed Bud......it's about freedom.  Pun intended.

I've never done drugs, I barely even drink these days, but I do believe in having control over my life.
7/8/2011 4:06:51 PM EDT
[#45]
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Sounds like he couls be a great candidate but he needs to lay off the weed.

Lay off how? Lie? Misdirect? Change the subject? He never leads on weed. He answers honestly when asked. And they keep asking, mostly because he's running as a Republican.
 


I am not a pot head but I do belive pot should be decriminalized, but the majority of Conservatives would problably disagree with me.

Sounds like Mr Johnson should stick to lower level elected office at least for now.
7/8/2011 4:08:20 PM EDT
[#46]
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Sounds like he couls be a great candidate but he needs to lay off the weed.


He mainly talks about it when asked, although interviewers seem to like to ask.  He says he currently does not smoke it and used it medicinally a while back.  Supports legalization.

I personally like him the most out of all of the current candidates in the primaries.  On the issues, he is head and shoulders above the rest.

I do disagree with some of his views.  I don't like some of his foreign policy and military policy views, which while considerably more moderate than Paul's still lean in that direction.  I do think that he would be rather reasonable on such issues, though, and anything a bit more radical would likely be checked to some degree by Congress, regardless of what party was in charge.  I also disagree with some of his social views, but this is tempered to a considerable degree by his highly federalist views, which render most of them of little to no practical relevance at the national level.

Outside of that, though, I largely agree with him and at this point, he has what I think we need in the most crucial areas, which allow me to overlook my disagreements with him on the issues.  Unlike pretty much everyone running, he has walked the walk and not just talked the talk, and done so in a major way that is quite unusual in this day and age, and done so in an executive position analogous to the Presidency, and while doing so he was able to win over Democrats politically.

Unless Bolton runs, out of everyone running, he is the best.  I don't think any prospective types other than Bolton would be as good or better on the issues, either, but even Bolton does not have the chief executive political office record Johnson has.
7/8/2011 4:08:27 PM EDT
[#47]
He is my top pick.
7/8/2011 5:05:40 PM EDT
[#48]
I like him, also.



He's honest, and for liberty/freedom.  What's not to like?




Why should I care if the feds stop prosecuting pot smokers?  




Aren't the states handling that?  



7/8/2011 6:09:58 PM EDT
[#49]
He's got my vote.
7/8/2011 6:11:53 PM EDT
[#50]
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in before team America screen caps


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