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6/18/2011 3:59:58 PM EDT
So who among candidates who have thrown their hat in the ring so far would you be most inclined to vote for in the primary if it were held today?

Apparently there are some other people running, but there's no space left in the poll.  Others include Roy Moore, Fred Karger, Jimmy McMillan, and Andy Martin.
6/18/2011 4:03:58 PM EDT
[#1]
If Perry doesn't run , I'm not sure what I'll do.
6/18/2011 4:05:44 PM EDT
[#2]
I voted Bachman but there is plenty of time for someone else to convince me otherwise. I haven't seen enough of the others to really make a decision yet.
6/18/2011 4:07:15 PM EDT
[#3]
I have liked what I have heard from Cain so far.  I want Perry to run though.
6/18/2011 4:14:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Waiting for some one to vote for Gingrich in the poll so I can scoff and kick shit around the house, muttering about retards on ARFCOM.
6/18/2011 4:15:13 PM EDT
[#5]



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I have liked what I have heard from Cain so far.  I want Perry to run though.


I need more clarification on his affirmative action views. That is a big fucking deal to me ESPECIALLY for a black candidate.  The reason minorities are so fucked is becaue their leaders tell them they are substandard. To turn this country around we need minority leaders that are against affirmative action and support individual action and are willing to step up and help defeat the dependency that democrats have instilled with these excuses for failure in the minority community.    If Cain of all people is willing to continue this path on race I have zero interest in him. That makes him worse than the average racist in my eyes.



 
6/18/2011 4:22:31 PM EDT
[#6]
My first choice is Bachmann.

The ones I can say NO to are Romney and Gingrich, and to a somewhat lesser extent, Paul.

The rest I get mixed up.  Who's good and who's bad?
6/18/2011 4:41:00 PM EDT
[#7]
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My first choice is Bachmann.

The ones I can say NO to are Romney and Gingrich, and to a somewhat lesser extent, Paul.

The rest I get mixed up.  Who's good and who's bad?


I'm with you; same here.

And it doesn't matter who's good/bad...they are ALL better than "O".

It's going to be interesting to see if they stay civil and  in the end, two of 'em team up and run together.

Something like Perry/Bachmann or Bachmann/Cain.
6/18/2011 10:53:31 PM EDT
[#8]
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I have liked what I have heard from Cain so far.  I want Perry to run though.

I need more clarification on his affirmative action views. That is a big fucking deal to me ESPECIALLY for a black candidate.  The reason minorities are so fucked is becaue their leaders tell them they are substandard. To turn this country around we need minority leaders that are against affirmative action and support individual action and are willing to step up and help defeat the dependency that democrats have instilled with these excuses for failure in the minority community.    If Cain of all people is willing to continue this path on race I have zero interest in him. That makes him worse than the average racist in my eyes.
 


The real problem I see is that he is totally ignorant on most issues.  People are starting to notice and it could well sink him.  The current issue of National Review has an article about this.  Personally, I don't plan on voting for Cain in the primaries.

Right now I'm planning on voting for Gary Johnson.  Hoping Bolton enters the race but we'll see.  If not, Johnson is guaranteed my vote should be still be in the race by the time the California primary rolls around.
6/18/2011 10:55:11 PM EDT
[#9]
Surely to God we can do better than that lot.
6/18/2011 10:56:48 PM EDT
[#10]
I'm for Perry at the moment.
6/18/2011 11:28:05 PM EDT
[#11]
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I'm for Perry at the moment.


We'll see if he runs.  I would still vote for Johnson over Perry, though.  On the issues he's a much better candidate, IMO.
6/18/2011 11:32:44 PM EDT
[#12]



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Waiting for some one to vote for Gingrich in the poll so I can scoff and kick shit around the house, muttering about retards on ARFCOM.


I did that when I saw there is some clownshoe here that answered with Romney.  

 
6/18/2011 11:33:23 PM EDT
[#13]
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Surely to God we can do better than that lot.


As McCain proved, we can't.  We are incapable of running a good candidate.
6/18/2011 11:37:06 PM EDT
[#14]
Rick Perry.
But out of that list Cain with Bachman being a close 2nd.
6/18/2011 11:40:23 PM EDT
[#15]



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Rick Perry.
But out of that list Cain with Bachman being a close 2nd.


Why is Cain getting so many votes?  He successfully dodges every question he's ever asked and answers with "We need to identify the problem and use common sense solutions."

 



Yeah, cool, great.. but the guy has no idea what he would do as Pres.  




No personal knock on you or anything, I just don't get it.  Maybe I missed some great things he's said or done.
6/19/2011 12:09:10 AM EDT
[#16]
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Waiting for some one to vote for Gingrich in the poll so I can scoff and kick shit around the house, muttering about retards on ARFCOM.


Well, two morans voted for Romney. Do two Romneys make a Gingrich?
6/19/2011 12:15:24 AM EDT
[#17]




Quoted:





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Rick Perry.
But out of that list Cain with Bachman being a close 2nd.


Why is Cain getting so many votes? He successfully dodges every question he's ever asked and answers with "We need to identify the problem and use common sense solutions."





Yeah, cool, great.. but the guy has no idea what he would do as Pres.






No personal knock on you or anything, I just don't get it. Maybe I missed some great things he's said or done.




His underlying philosophy is conservative and I know he can run a business.





He also understands he doesn't know everything. The largest part of a President's job is delegation. I have faith he would appoint the right people to the right places and get advice from the people he should get advice from.
The two MOST important things we need to do is cut spending and make the US business friendly again.  He would do both.
6/19/2011 12:16:50 AM EDT
[#18]



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If Perry doesn't run , I'm not sure what I'll do.






 
6/19/2011 12:23:06 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:

Quoted:

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Rick Perry.




But out of that list Cain with Bachman being a close 2nd.

Why is Cain getting so many votes? He successfully dodges every question he's ever asked and answers with "We need to identify the problem and use common sense solutions."

Yeah, cool, great.. but the guy has no idea what he would do as Pres.

No personal knock on you or anything, I just don't get it. Maybe I missed some great things he's said or done.


His underlying philosophy is conservative and I know he can run a business.


He also understands he doesn't know everything. The largest part of a President's job is delegation. I have faith he would appoint the right people to the right places and get advice from the people he should get advice from.



The two MOST important things we need to do is cut spending and make the US business friendly again.  He would do both.


One can hope he'll do the right things and appoint the right people.  He is a completely blank slate on so many issues it is ridiculous.  I don't see how he can expect to be taken seriously when he takes no position on the majority of issues and even fewer detailed positions.  Being a businessman is simply not enough, IMO.
6/19/2011 12:44:29 AM EDT
[#20]



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I have liked what I have heard from Cain so far.  I want Perry to run though.


I need more clarification on his affirmative action views. That is a big fucking deal to me ESPECIALLY for a black candidate.  The reason minorities are so fucked is becaue their leaders tell them they are substandard. To turn this country around we need minority leaders that are against affirmative action and support individual action and are willing to step up and help defeat the dependency that democrats have instilled with these excuses for failure in the minority community.    If Cain of all people is willing to continue this path on race I have zero interest in him. That makes him worse than the average racist in my eyes.

 




The real problem I see is that he is totally ignorant on most issues.  People are starting to notice and it could well sink him.  The current issue of National Review has an article about this.  Personally, I don't plan on voting for Cain in the primaries.



Right now I'm planning on voting for Gary Johnson.  Hoping Bolton enters the race but we'll see.  If not, Johnson is guaranteed my vote should be still be in the race by the time the California primary rolls around.


come jauary Ill start doing some research and find out who is going to get my money and time in the primaries.  I don't know Jack about Johnson or som eof the others yet.



 
6/19/2011 12:46:51 AM EDT
[#21]





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Rick Perry.
But out of that list Cain with Bachman being a close 2nd.



Why is Cain getting so many votes? He successfully dodges every question he's ever asked and answers with "We need to identify the problem and use common sense solutions."






Yeah, cool, great.. but the guy has no idea what he would do as Pres.







No personal knock on you or anything, I just don't get it. Maybe I missed some great things he's said or done.






His underlying philosophy is conservative and I know he can run a business.
He also understands he doesn't know everything. The largest part of a President's job is delegation. I have faith he would appoint the right people to the right places and get advice from the people he should get advice from.
The two MOST important things we need to do is cut spending and make the US business friendly again.  He would do both.
this is a good point. Nobody understands government overhead getting in the way better than a private sector business owner.  Ill have to weigh  that against other candidates views on business and find out more about affirmative action views of cain and see if it outweighs his business attitude.
 
6/19/2011 12:46:53 AM EDT
[#22]




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Quoted:





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Quoted:

Rick Perry.
But out of that list Cain with Bachman being a close 2nd.


Why is Cain getting so many votes? He successfully dodges every question he's ever asked and answers with "We need to identify the problem and use common sense solutions."





Yeah, cool, great.. but the guy has no idea what he would do as Pres.






No personal knock on you or anything, I just don't get it. Maybe I missed some great things he's said or done.




His underlying philosophy is conservative and I know he can run a business.





He also understands he doesn't know everything. The largest part of a President's job is delegation. I have faith he would appoint the right people to the right places and get advice from the people he should get advice from.
The two MOST important things we need to do is cut spending and make the US business friendly again. He would do both.




One can hope he'll do the right things and appoint the right people. He is a completely blank slate on so many issues it is ridiculous. I don't see how he can expect to be taken seriously when he takes no position on the majority of issues and even fewer detailed positions. Being a businessman is simply not enough, IMO.




Blank slate but talks a good game vs a bunch of known RINO's.
Easy choice.  At worst he is just like the rest.
6/19/2011 2:17:12 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:

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Rick Perry.




But out of that list Cain with Bachman being a close 2nd.

Why is Cain getting so many votes? He successfully dodges every question he's ever asked and answers with "We need to identify the problem and use common sense solutions."

Yeah, cool, great.. but the guy has no idea what he would do as Pres.

No personal knock on you or anything, I just don't get it. Maybe I missed some great things he's said or done.


His underlying philosophy is conservative and I know he can run a business.


He also understands he doesn't know everything. The largest part of a President's job is delegation. I have faith he would appoint the right people to the right places and get advice from the people he should get advice from.



The two MOST important things we need to do is cut spending and make the US business friendly again. He would do both.


One can hope he'll do the right things and appoint the right people. He is a completely blank slate on so many issues it is ridiculous. I don't see how he can expect to be taken seriously when he takes no position on the majority of issues and even fewer detailed positions. Being a businessman is simply not enough, IMO.


Blank slate but talks a good game vs a bunch of known RINO's.



Easy choice.  At worst he is just like the rest.


As we should know by now, talk is cheap.  In any case, in many areas, he simply has nothing to talk about.  Supposing he won the primaries, that will be a severe weakness against Obama.  At least Obama has something to say, and people are going to see that.  I don't think he'll get that far, though, unless he can create a set of positions.

I think Johnson is way better than him in terms of the issues.  The guy not only has a position on most issues, but he also has a good stance on the large majority of them, and he has a record as an extremely conservative governor to back up his words, which doesn't make them as cheap as Cain's; and despite his far Right policies, he managed to remain highly popular in a State that is majority Democrat, which does give me at least a tiny bit of hope for the country.  I may not agree with him on certain issues, but given his philosophy regarding the role of the national government, some of those issues are of limited to no relevance.
6/19/2011 2:29:16 AM EDT
[#24]
PALIN!
6/19/2011 2:31:54 AM EDT
[#25]


At this stage, I'm still in the process of eliminating candidates and have not yet found any that excite me enough to vote for them.

6/19/2011 4:13:55 AM EDT
[#26]
After seeing Gary Johnson on "Stossel", he's my favorite right now.

www.GaryJohnson2012.com
6/19/2011 4:27:58 AM EDT
[#27]
Dr. Paul is getting my vote.
6/19/2011 4:46:22 AM EDT
[#28]
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Rick Perry.




But out of that list Cain with Bachman being a close 2nd.

Why is Cain getting so many votes? He successfully dodges every question he's ever asked and answers with "We need to identify the problem and use common sense solutions."

Yeah, cool, great.. but the guy has no idea what he would do as Pres.

No personal knock on you or anything, I just don't get it. Maybe I missed some great things he's said or done.


His underlying philosophy is conservative and I know he can run a business.


He also understands he doesn't know everything. The largest part of a President's job is delegation. I have faith he would appoint the right people to the right places and get advice from the people he should get advice from.



The two MOST important things we need to do is cut spending and make the US business friendly again. He would do both.


One can hope he'll do the right things and appoint the right people. He is a completely blank slate on so many issues it is ridiculous. I don't see how he can expect to be taken seriously when he takes no position on the majority of issues and even fewer detailed positions. Being a businessman is simply not enough, IMO.


Blank slate but talks a good game vs a bunch of known RINO's.



Easy choice.  At worst he is just like the rest.


I thought you were talking about obama in 2008 for a minute there
6/19/2011 5:06:43 AM EDT
[#29]
Holding my vote till Perry joins
6/19/2011 5:14:12 AM EDT
[#30]
Republicans could make bigger history than the last election if we could get the first ever female president AND the first ever black VP.  

I taked to an old timer yesterday that voted for Zero and he said he would vote republican this time no matter what, but he wouldn't like voting for Palin because she's too good looking.  I've also heard a few other females say the same thing.
6/19/2011 5:24:02 AM EDT
[#31]
Bauchman.  Who the hell voted for Romney?
6/19/2011 5:26:43 AM EDT
[#32]
what a huge fucking shit sandwich
6/19/2011 12:07:10 PM EDT
[#33]




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Quoted:

Rick Perry.
But out of that list Cain with Bachman being a close 2nd.


Why is Cain getting so many votes? He successfully dodges every question he's ever asked and answers with "We need to identify the problem and use common sense solutions."





Yeah, cool, great.. but the guy has no idea what he would do as Pres.






No personal knock on you or anything, I just don't get it. Maybe I missed some great things he's said or done.




His underlying philosophy is conservative and I know he can run a business.





He also understands he doesn't know everything. The largest part of a President's job is delegation. I have faith he would appoint the right people to the right places and get advice from the people he should get advice from.
The two MOST important things we need to do is cut spending and make the US business friendly again. He would do both.




One can hope he'll do the right things and appoint the right people. He is a completely blank slate on so many issues it is ridiculous. I don't see how he can expect to be taken seriously when he takes no position on the majority of issues and even fewer detailed positions. Being a businessman is simply not enough, IMO.




Blank slate but talks a good game vs a bunch of known RINO's.
Easy choice. At worst he is just like the rest.




I thought you were talking about obama in 2008 for a minute there






But he wasn't a blank slate, he had told us in print and interviews exactly what he wanted to do.





And in reality Cain isn't either. Cain knows what a shit sandwich .gov is for business and is a good leader and delegator.

6/19/2011 12:10:54 PM EDT
[#34]
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Rick Perry.


The Fred Thompson of 2012?
6/19/2011 12:13:17 PM EDT
[#35]
who the fuck are the idiots who didn't vote for Paul? you guys do know this is the internet and not a real vote so you always vote for Ron Paul, its like the rules man.
6/19/2011 12:13:47 PM EDT
[#36]
I don't like anyone on that list, but from the rhetoric I've heard so far, I guess Pawlenty is the least objectionable of the batch with their hats in the ring.
6/19/2011 12:13:56 PM EDT
[#37]
I thought Bachmann showed some real statemenship during the debate. She seem to come out the best, imo.

6/19/2011 12:15:21 PM EDT
[#38]



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Rick Perry.





The Fred Thompson of 2012?


Rick Perry has an ounce of charisma. He's not a tired old man with no executive experience giving lack luster speeches and make all the wrong strategic moves.



 
6/19/2011 12:16:17 PM EDT
[#39]
how much longer before the arfcom paulbots recruit all of the other paulbots and takeover this poll?
6/19/2011 12:21:53 PM EDT
[#40]




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how much longer before the arfcom paulbots recruit all of the other paulbots and takeover this poll?




What if he just does well in the poll with zero recruiting?



Paul haters need to have excuses ready just in case that should happen.
6/19/2011 12:24:45 PM EDT
[#41]



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how much longer before the arfcom paulbots recruit all of the other paulbots and takeover this poll?




What if he just does well in the poll with zero recruiting?



Paul haters need to have excuses ready just in case that should happen.


and paulbots should just wake the fuck up and realize that it ain't ever gonna to fucking happen



 
6/19/2011 12:34:31 PM EDT
[#42]




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how much longer before the arfcom paulbots recruit all of the other paulbots and takeover this poll?




What if he just does well in the poll with zero recruiting?



Paul haters need to have excuses ready just in case that should happen.


and paulbots should just wake the fuck up and realize that it ain't ever gonna to fucking happen



I'm thinking most of them realize that.



Doesn't mean they are going to dump their principles and jump on the entitlment, nanny state wagon however.

6/19/2011 10:50:04 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:

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Rick Perry.




But out of that list Cain with Bachman being a close 2nd.

Why is Cain getting so many votes? He successfully dodges every question he's ever asked and answers with "We need to identify the problem and use common sense solutions."

Yeah, cool, great.. but the guy has no idea what he would do as Pres.

No personal knock on you or anything, I just don't get it. Maybe I missed some great things he's said or done.


His underlying philosophy is conservative and I know he can run a business.


He also understands he doesn't know everything. The largest part of a President's job is delegation. I have faith he would appoint the right people to the right places and get advice from the people he should get advice from.



The two MOST important things we need to do is cut spending and make the US business friendly again. He would do both.


One can hope he'll do the right things and appoint the right people. He is a completely blank slate on so many issues it is ridiculous. I don't see how he can expect to be taken seriously when he takes no position on the majority of issues and even fewer detailed positions. Being a businessman is simply not enough, IMO.


Blank slate but talks a good game vs a bunch of known RINO's.



Easy choice. At worst he is just like the rest.


I thought you were talking about obama in 2008 for a minute there



But he wasn't a blank slate, he had told us in print and interviews exactly what he wanted to do.


And in reality Cain isn't either. Cain knows what a shit sandwich .gov is for business and is a good leader and delegator.


He really needs to know more, though, and at least have a position on some issues of consequence outside of economic ones.
6/19/2011 11:57:27 PM EDT
[#44]




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Rick Perry.
But out of that list Cain with Bachman being a close 2nd.


Why is Cain getting so many votes? He successfully dodges every question he's ever asked and answers with "We need to identify the problem and use common sense solutions."





Yeah, cool, great.. but the guy has no idea what he would do as Pres.






No personal knock on you or anything, I just don't get it. Maybe I missed some great things he's said or done.




His underlying philosophy is conservative and I know he can run a business.





He also understands he doesn't know everything. The largest part of a President's job is delegation. I have faith he would appoint the right people to the right places and get advice from the people he should get advice from.
The two MOST important things we need to do is cut spending and make the US business friendly again. He would do both.




One can hope he'll do the right things and appoint the right people. He is a completely blank slate on so many issues it is ridiculous. I don't see how he can expect to be taken seriously when he takes no position on the majority of issues and even fewer detailed positions. Being a businessman is simply not enough, IMO.




Blank slate but talks a good game vs a bunch of known RINO's.
Easy choice. At worst he is just like the rest.




I thought you were talking about obama in 2008 for a minute there






But he wasn't a blank slate, he had told us in print and interviews exactly what he wanted to do.





And in reality Cain isn't either. Cain knows what a shit sandwich .gov is for business and is a good leader and delegator.





He really needs to know more, though, and at least have a position on some issues of consequence outside of economic ones.




Agree.  That he is at the top for me really shows how weak the field is right now.
6/20/2011 1:40:55 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
how much longer before the arfcom paulbots recruit all of the other paulbots and takeover this poll?


This thread was 100% civil and people saying simply who they'd vote for until YOU posted.  Why be a shit disturber for no reason?  Carry on, guys.
6/20/2011 2:34:05 AM EDT
[#46]
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Rick Perry.




But out of that list Cain with Bachman being a close 2nd.

Why is Cain getting so many votes? He successfully dodges every question he's ever asked and answers with "We need to identify the problem and use common sense solutions."

Yeah, cool, great.. but the guy has no idea what he would do as Pres.

No personal knock on you or anything, I just don't get it. Maybe I missed some great things he's said or done.


His underlying philosophy is conservative and I know he can run a business.


He also understands he doesn't know everything. The largest part of a President's job is delegation. I have faith he would appoint the right people to the right places and get advice from the people he should get advice from.



The two MOST important things we need to do is cut spending and make the US business friendly again.  He would do both.


I agree..........if Perry isn't in then Cain gets my vote.
6/20/2011 2:54:04 AM EDT
[#47]
On that list, Bachmann...

If Perry were to get into the race, then I'd took a good long look at him.

If Palin were to run, then I'd hands-down support her, no questions asked...
6/20/2011 3:23:42 AM EDT
[#48]
8 votes for Romney??, I didn't know Alex Robinson had 8 trolls accounts here.