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6/4/2011 9:11:49 AM EDT
I have a simple scoring question that I can't seem to find a definitive answer for.

Let's say someone puts the ball into play, a ground ball that makes it out of the infield (not an error) to the left-fielder.  The batter rounds first and tries to turn a single into a double, and is tug-out at second (7-4 PO).

Is this scored as a single, then the 7-4 PO?  The pitcher would no longer have a no-hitter or a perfect game, correct?

Any insight or links welcome.

Any taunts or mockery aimed at me being a baseball scoring geek will also be enjoyed.

It is something I only recently got into for my son's little league team, but it has grown more interesting over time.
6/4/2011 9:14:42 AM EDT
[#1]
I'm sure somebody who does that for a living will be along shortly. . .but in the meantime, I don't *think* it is scored a single, and the perfect game is still in play.
6/4/2011 9:16:27 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I have a simple scoring question that I can't seem to find a definitive answer for.

Let's say someone puts the ball into play, a ground ball that makes it out of the infield (not an error) to the left-fielder.  The batter rounds first and tries to turn a single into a double, and is tug-out at second (7-4 PO).

Is this scored as a single, then the 7-4 PO?  The pitcher would no longer have a no-hitter or a perfect game, correct?

Any insight or links welcome.

Any taunts or mockery aimed at me being a baseball scoring geek will also be enjoyed.

It is something I only recently got into for my son's little league team, but it has grown more interesting over time.


I think its a single. No more no hitter.
6/4/2011 9:19:14 AM EDT
[#3]
I dont think its a hit.  So no-hitter intact.
What do I win?
6/4/2011 9:21:35 AM EDT
[#4]
put me in the camp that it is not considered a hit.  

eta: but will freely admit that i could very much be wrong.
6/4/2011 9:21:35 AM EDT
[#5]
7-4 PO CS. It's a single which ends the no hitter, but the batter who is now the base runner is CS (caught stealing).

Thats how I did it during my off days from catching. Catchers and pitchers had to keep score at my college.
6/4/2011 9:24:05 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:

Is this scored as a single, then the 7-4 PO?  The pitcher would no longer have a no-hitter or a perfect game, correct?


this is it.  hitter gets credit for a single, then a 7-4 PO.  not caught stealing.  pitcher loss the no-hitter.
6/4/2011 9:25:56 AM EDT
[#7]
It's an error on the first base coach that told the runner to head to second.  
6/4/2011 9:26:03 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
7-4 PO CS. It's a single which ends the no hitter, but the batter who is now the base runner is CS (caught stealing).

Thats how I did it during my off days from catching. Catchers and pitchers had to keep score at my college.


That would have been my second choice, using CS.

I was leaning against using CS, because CS to me indicates it was a separate play from the hit (not part of the continuous action).  That was why I was thinking 1B, 7-4 PO.

Makes sense, but either way, no-hitter and perfect game would be out me thinks.
6/4/2011 9:34:19 AM EDT
[#9]
Single



PO 7 to 4



No "caught stealing"



No more no hitter
6/4/2011 9:38:45 AM EDT
[#10]




Quoted:

Single



PO 7 to 4



No "caught stealing"



No more no hitter




This is the correct answer.
6/4/2011 9:48:51 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Single

PO 7 to 4

No "caught stealing"

No more no hitter


This is the correct answer.


6/4/2011 9:58:13 AM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:


7-4 PO CS. It's a single which ends the no hitter, but the batter who is now the base runner is CS (caught stealing).



Thats how I did it during my off days from catching. Catchers and pitchers had to keep score at my college.


This.

 
6/4/2011 9:58:50 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:

Quoted:
7-4 PO CS. It's a single which ends the no hitter, but the batter who is now the base runner is CS (caught stealing).

Thats how I did it during my off days from catching. Catchers and pitchers had to keep score at my college.

This.  


nope
6/4/2011 10:11:57 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
Single

PO 7 to 4

No "caught stealing"

No more no hitter


This is the correct answer.




6/4/2011 10:24:30 AM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:


I have a simple scoring question that I can't seem to find a definitive answer for.



Let's say someone puts the ball into play, a ground ball that makes it out of the infield (not an error) to the left-fielder.  The batter rounds first and tries to turn a single into a double, and is tug-out at second (7-4 PO).



Is this scored as a single, then the 7-4 PO?  The pitcher would no longer have a no-hitter or a perfect game, correct?



Any insight or links welcome.



Any taunts or mockery aimed at me being a baseball scoring geek will also be enjoyed.



It is something I only recently got into for my son's little league team, but it has grown more interesting over time.
It is a hit.





 
6/4/2011 10:26:21 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:

Quoted:
7-4 PO CS. It's a single which ends the no hitter, but the batter who is now the base runner is CS (caught stealing).

Thats how I did it during my off days from catching. Catchers and pitchers had to keep score at my college.

This.  


He's not stealing a base. The batter is attempting to turn his base hit into a double and gets gunned down. It's a single with a 7-4 PO. Just like if he got nailed at third, it would be a double with a 7-5 PO.
6/4/2011 10:49:49 AM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:


Single



PO 7 to 4



No "caught stealing"



No more no hitter


The above is correct.  He wasn't "caught stealing" when he tried to stretch a single into a double.

 
6/4/2011 11:00:48 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
I have a simple scoring question that I can't seem to find a definitive answer for.

Let's say someone puts the ball into play, a ground ball that makes it out of the infield (not an error) to the left-fielder.  The batter rounds first and tries to turn a single into a double, and is tug-out at second (7-4 PO).

Is this scored as a single, then the 7-4 PO?  The pitcher would no longer have a no-hitter or a perfect game, correct?

Any insight or links welcome.

Any taunts or mockery aimed at me being a baseball scoring geek will also be enjoyed.

It is something I only recently got into for my son's little league team, but it has grown more interesting over time.


It's a single. He made it to first, but it was a baserunning error that got him out at second. No perfect game.
6/4/2011 11:37:36 AM EDT
[#19]







Quoted:
Quoted:



I have a simple scoring question that I can't seem to find a definitive answer for.
Let's say someone puts the ball into play, a ground ball that makes it out of the infield (not an error) to the left-fielder.  The batter rounds first and tries to turn a single into a double, and is tug-out at second (7-4 PO).
Is this scored as a single, then the 7-4 PO?  The pitcher would no longer have a no-hitter or a perfect game, correct?
Any insight or links welcome.
Any taunts or mockery aimed at me being a baseball scoring geek will also be enjoyed.
It is something I only recently got into for my son's little league team, but it has grown more interesting over time.

It's a single. He made it to first, but it was a baserunning error that got him out at second. No perfect game.