[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Identify this snake... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/20/2011 5:44:46 PM EDT
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Saw this bad boy while on the lake fishing this past week, it was a bright sunny spring day about 75 degrees at about 1:00 PM, and I was casting along a shoreline and decided to pitch my bait around this fallen tree, when I looked down and here it was about 10 feet away. The tree was uprooted at the bank, so he could have easily gained access without getting in the water. Didn't spook either although I cast a Zoom lizard in the brush within 2 feet of him on both sides. Looks like the world's biggest copperhead to me, but I am no expert. About 3 1/2 ft long, and as big around as my forearm.
What say you? 
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| common water snake, Nerodia sipedon sipedon. Also known as the "Water copper" because they resemble a copperhead. Harmless, but very cranky when you mess with them..... Unless it's a VERY brightly colored cottonmouth for that size. Cannot be 100% sure without a pic of it's head. |
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not a water moccasin......markings look wrong for a copperhead....my vote is some mutant water snake......next time you see it, pook it with a stick and say Hi That last picture has me thinking the moccasin crowd has a point. I have never seen one that striated before the guy above you. |
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common water snake, Nerodia sipedon sipedon. Also known as the "Water copper" because they resemble a copperhead. Harmless, but very cranky when you mess with them..... Unless it's a VERY brightly colored cottonmouth for that size. Cannot be 100% sure without a pic of it's head. Pretty sure this is correct. Without seeing the head which is a dead giveaway, I'm going with this. And yep, they are grumpy critters. |
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Copperhead nope, maybe a cottonmouth ding ding ding.......we have a winner ! ETA: We have 4 poisonous snakes in Arkansas , Rattle snake , cottonmouth , coral and copperhead ......I would rather take a bite from any of them before I took a bite from a cottonmouth........ 
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Saw this bad boy while on the lake fishing this past week, it was a bright sunny spring day about 75 degrees at about 1:00 PM, and I was casting along a shoreline and decided to pitch my bait around this fallen tree, when I looked down and here it was about 10 feet away. The tree was uprooted at the bank, so he could have easily gained access without getting in the water. Didn't spook either although I cast a Zoom lizard in the brush within 2 feet of him on both sides. Looks like the world's biggest copperhead to me, but I am no expert. About 3 1/2 ft long, and as big around as my forearm. What say you? http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/CletusYokel/IMG_1282.jpg Don't know about the snake,how was the fishin? |
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Cottonmouth colors will vary according to the season, but that is what it is. The biggest one I ever killed was gold in color on a warm January day. Sure, but cottonmouth patterns don't vary. They don't alternate like the snake in the OP's pic. That's a brown water snake. |
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common water snake, Nerodia sipedon sipedon. Also known as the "Water copper" because they resemble a copperhead. Harmless, but very cranky when you mess with them..... Unless it's a VERY brightly colored cottonmouth for that size. Cannot be 100% sure without a pic of it's head. +1 they get pretty big |
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Cottonmouth colors will vary according to the season, but that is what it is. The biggest one I ever killed was gold in color on a warm January day. Yup, it is a cottonmouth. Their coloration varies widely . http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/herpetology/fl-guide/Agkistrodonpiscivorus.htm |
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Yes. Larger cottonmouths are dark to the point of being black. When I was on staff at boy scout camp a guy caught I watersnake that I swore was a cottonmouth until he opened it's mouth and proved me wrong. Here in the Carolinas, every cottonmouth I've ever seen was almost black as well. They also have fat, thick bodies. That "looks" like a copperhead, but I'd need to see it's head to be sure. It could be some random water snake b/c I've never seen copperheads lounging out on a branch or log IN the water. I have always seen them on the shore or water's edge, mainly on rocks or logs, but never OUT IN the water. That's why I'm kinda leaning towards a water snake. -ZA |
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That's a lake boat jumper. They hide in trees waiting for you to float underneath them so they can jump in your boat with you. AIRBORNE moccasin. They do just "drop in". .. and they DO stink. Bad. Trinity River, not too far from Kerrville, Texas, about 1966.. the Dad of an old friend of mine blew the floor out of his boat with a .44 - six shots, one hit, from arm's length. Totalled the boat, lost all his gear, but no one was bitten. I swear. '03 |
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Yep. |
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Looks like a banded northern water snake to me. They have a blood red streak running along there belly " looks like someone flipped them over and ran there finger down there belly with blood".
This water snake is non venomous and is very aggressive it saliva acts as a anticoagulant. 
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