[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Trump (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/11/2011 6:15:05 PM EDT
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I've always though he's just a sideshow. But I have to say that his persistence and tenacity is very appealing to me. Everybody else pussy-foots around and is scared to ruffle feathers, but this guy is a pit-bull. He wouldn't be my first choice in most circumstances given that his politics aren't ideal for me(as every other possible Rep. besides Cain), but unless somebody else steps up and takes it to the enemy like this guy is doing; I'm getting more and more toward getting behind him. What say you?
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Trump, Springer, Beck, Sharpton.
Big antics, Big Egos, Big dollars for a product that, let's face it, is exciting! I feel more alive now that Trump investigators "Can't believe what they're finding!". I'm filled with hope. I like talk of nightmares, ancestry, and conspiracies in American politics. Why should Italy and Korea have the market cornered on circus politics? |
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Quoted: He's sort of an assclown, but I'm listening. He'd be better than almost all of those idiots we put up in 2008... I actually know a few people that are good acquaintances with him...actually regular folks. Trump even invited them personally to the recent roast. I've never met him, but apparently he's a very nice guy. |
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Yeah, I can come up with several things I don't like about him. But the fact is that he's the only one getting with taking it to them. I'd prefer Allen West or Herman Cain personally, but they're not in the front blasting day after day. I think they could both effectively batter Obama, but they won't get the coverage to make it into the mainstream so the sheeple that don't pay attention can see. At this point, I'm just looking for anybody that can realistically send Obama packing. If he's the only chance, I'm with him regardless of my dislikes. |
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Ah, before we start with the "I don't like this or that" "Trump is a bum" "He donated $$$ to the dems"
Here's how it works. The dems nominate a guy. The Righties nominate a guy. Dems vote for their guy and the other side does the same. Do people cross party lines? Sure. But not enough to make a difference. The swing vote is what makes it. The undecided. The idiots ! I know. I was one of them. I'm smarter than everyone else. I'm gonna listen and then decide. I'm gonna use my brain...... I was such a dumb kid ! You get a guy who is good looking, confident, succesfull. And you pump him up all you can. Obama was a nobody until he went on Opra. All the wimmenz swooned and started ovulating in the studio. The dems say "Hey, we could win with this guy" Billyboy was a popular guy. Then he shows up on MTV and plays his saxaphone "OMG, what a cool dude. I'm voting for him" Reagan was an actor and nobody took him seriously. The Rebs. didn't think he could carry it but people loved him. Turned out as one of our most loved Presidents. Nobody in the middle cares about integrity. They care about the issues. Current issues.... Show up, wave and make alot of promises. If your confident and attractive= you win ! ! ! ! ! Trump has a better chance of winning than anybody on our side of the coin. And no mater what your gpire is he'd probably do this country right. Consider this, obama is bad but in second term as a lame duck. Holy crap guys....... It's gonna be the end of the America we grew up in..... |
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I've always though he's just a sideshow. But I have to say that his persistence and tenacity is very appealing to me. Everybody else pussy-foots around and is scared to ruffle feathers, but this guy is a pit-bull. He wouldn't be my first choice in most circumstances given that his politics aren't ideal for me(as every other possible Rep. besides Cain), but unless somebody else steps up and takes it to the enemy like this guy is doing; I'm getting more and more toward getting behind him. What say you? After watching the main event, the sideshow looks pretty good. |
| he is a gun grabber. any piece of shit that supported schmucky schumer and rahm emanuel needs to be shunned HARD. i support his work on calling obama out for being the kenyan piece of shit he is, but thats where i draw the line. i would never vote for him, even if he wont the repub nom. |
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He will say what needs to be said. The non-PC stuff. He'll call Obama a damn communist hell-bent on destroying the country, while the John McCains of the world recoil in shock. I don't necessarily know that he should or would win or get a nomination, but we NEED him in this race to point out the shit that the electable candidates don't have the sack to say. |
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I like him I just wish he would get off the whole birth certificate thing Meh, who cares? He's trashing Zero, and that's got some real value. I don't care what it's about. Comedy gold in the worst case, and damaging Zero's next campaign in the best case. What's not to like? |
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Here's some stuff from his own book...
Gun Control It’s often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.
Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 Jul 2, 2000 Assault Weapons Ban / Manditory Waiting Periods I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.
Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 Jul 2, 2000 Universal Healthcare I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. It is an unacceptable but accurate fact that the number of uninsured Americans has risen to 42 million. Working out detailed plans will take time. But the goal should be clear: Our people are our greatest asset. We must take care of our own. We must have universal healthcare.
Our objective [should be] to make reforms for the moment and, longer term, to find an equivalent of the single-payer plan that is affordable, well-administered, and provides freedom of choice. Possible? The good news is, yes. There is already a system in place-the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program-that can act as a guide for all healthcare reform. It operates through a centralized agency that offers considerable range of choice. While this is a government program, it is also very much market-based. It allows 620 private insurance companies to compete for this market. Once a year participants can choose from plans which vary in benefits and costs. Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.206-208 & 218 Jul 2, 2000 I will reiterate that Trump is an idiot. |
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Trump is an idiot. A billionaire, yes, but an idiot. Just check out his statements on gun control. He's a gun grabber. beat me by a few seconds. Ill have to look that up. Oh boy, He's a gun grabber ! ! ! ! Do you think, as the righties pic he would EVER push some gun ban? Nope ! he'll tow the party line. he doesn't care about guns..... he cares about money. he cares about capitolism. he cares about seeing our country do well. Plus, his kid owns a BUNCH of guns. His favorite is the DREADED black rifle. Wount take much to change his mind. He don't care folks......... it's about the $$$$$$$$$$$. Get behind the guy because if we don't....... Well, it's gonna suck.......... |
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Suffice to say that "The Donald" is dangerous...
I would impose a one-time, 14.25% tax on individuals and trusts with a net worth over $10 million. That would raise $5.7 trillion in new revenue, which we would use to pay off the entire national debt. We would save $200 billion in interest payments, which would allow us to cut taxes on middle-class working families by $100 billion a year or $1 trillion over ten years. We could use the rest of the savings––$100 billion-to bolster the Social Security Trust Fund. By 2030, we [will have] put $3 trillion into the trust Fund, which would make it solvent into the next century.
[In addition to shoring up Social Security for the long term], I say it’s high time to separate Social Security from the general treasury. It is time to lock-box it and throw away the key. The rich will scream. Only the top 1% of people-those with a net worth of $10 million or more-would be affected by my plan. The other 99% would get deep reductions in heir federal income taxes. Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.169-171 & 201 Jul 2, 2000 I would never support what has to be the craziest ideas in the history of U.S. politics: allowing the government to invest Social Security retirement funds in the stock market. Not only would a market downturn spell disaster for millions of retirees, but the process by which government would choose stocks would also be entirely political, making lobbyists and other political hacks the new masters of the universe.
Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.273-74 Jul 2, 2000 These two statements are entirely contradictory. [let's ignore for the fact that there is no Social Security Trust Fund] Trump wants to confiscate personal wealth and put it in a "Trust Fund", and a hundred pages later he says that the government shouldn't be allowed to invest money. Uh, then what's that "Trust Fund" all about if it's not invested in anything? Bottom line is that the government shouldn't be investing anything. It distorts the markets. Look at government investing in housing, etc. Without investment in the market [growth], Social Security is a ponzi scheme. The government has no business investing in the market. The Social Security Trust Fund is a $5T debt. The good news is that this debt can no long grow any larger because outlays are greater than revenue. Don't take my word for it; just go to the Bureau of Public Debt and plot the Public Debt and Intragovernmental Holdings [Intragovernmental Holdings is the money borrowed from Social Security over the years. It's as much an asset as a credit card debt.] Trump fails to understand some pretty basic stuff. http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np |
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Did you miss the part where he said he would remove $5.7T from the economy? And, stuff it under a mattress?
Oh, it's just "a one-time tax". Right, whatever. It's a flat out communist revolution in disguise. Trump is not a capitalist, he's a narcissistic, self-promoting jerk. That "one-time 15% tax" is strangely similary to a [Hilary?] Clinton plan back in the 90s. |
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Quoted: I've always though he's just a sideshow. But I have to say that his persistence and tenacity is very appealing to me. Everybody else pussy-foots around and is scared to ruffle feathers, but this guy is a pit-bull. He wouldn't be my first choice in most circumstances given that his politics aren't ideal for me(as every other possible Rep. besides Cain), but unless somebody else steps up and takes it to the enemy like this guy is doing; I'm getting more and more toward getting behind him. What say you? Funny thing, I was going to post pretty much the same thing earlier after I watched him on Gravelly Greta's show I don't know where he stands on some things, but I do know that It would be SO GOD DAMNED REFRESHING to have a guy as CiC who actually FEELS like we're an exceptional country, and isn't going to take any SHIT about it, international community be damned. I smile when I hear him berate Obama. I smile when I hear his "Fuck China" talk. And the thing is, I don't feel like it's just talk, I really get the sense he's not fucking kidding or bullshitting about anything he says. This guy is a billionaire for a reason, and it's not because he's a shrinking violet, and it's not because he's stupid. I don't like a lot of things about him, but that was when I wasn't paying attention to him....The Apprentice, etc...I've never seen even a few minutes of the show. Now that he's participating in the political arena, and I"m hearing him speak about issues, the issues I'm hearing him speak about I like. Man, it would be AWESOME to have a guy at the helm who's got some fucking balls, who tells it like it is, and doesn't take any shit. Some may call that "cowboy" or whatever, but on having a president with a sack, Trump isn't fucking around. This isn't my endorsement for Trump as president, I don't know enough about his positions on other issues, but frankly, the more I hear him speak (at least about the issues he's talking about lately), I like him. ETA: CiC...not CoC...CoC is what I want to violate when I'm elaborating about my feelings regarding Odumbo...  |
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Quoted: I find it terribly unlikely the GOP will nominate him. But if he somehow did get the nomination I would vote for him. How could anyone be worse than Obama? He better not pull a Perot and split the opposition vote. He'll hand it over to Obama.  http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/04/11/trump-will-probably-run-as-independent-if-he-doesnt-win-gop-nomination/ |
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I've always though he's just a sideshow. But I have to say that his persistence and tenacity is very appealing to me. Everybody else pussy-foots around and is scared to ruffle feathers, but this guy is a pit-bull. He wouldn't be my first choice in most circumstances given that his politics aren't ideal for me(as every other possible Rep. besides Cain), but unless somebody else steps up and takes it to the enemy like this guy is doing; I'm getting more and more toward getting behind him. What say you? Funny thing, I was going to post pretty much the same thing earlier after I watched him on Gravelly Greta's show I don't know where he stands on some things, but I do know that It would be SO GOD DAMNED REFRESHING to have a guy as CiC who actually FEELS like we're an exceptional country, and isn't going to take any SHIT about it, international community be damned. I smile when I hear him berate Obama. I smile when I hear his "Fuck China" talk. And the thing is, I don't feel like it's just talk, I really get the sense he's not fucking kidding or bullshitting about anything he says. This guy is a billionaire for a reason, and it's not because he's a shrinking violet, and it's not because he's stupid. I don't like a lot of things about him, but that was when I wasn't paying attention to him....The Apprentice, etc...I've never seen even a few minutes of the show. Now that he's participating in the political arena, and I"m hearing him speak about issues, the issues I'm hearing him speak about I like. Man, it would be AWESOME to have a guy at the helm who's got some fucking balls, who tells it like it is, and doesn't take any shit. Some may call that "cowboy" or whatever, but on having a president with a sack, Trump isn't fucking around. This isn't my endorsement for Trump as president, I don't know enough about his positions on other issues, but frankly, the more I hear him speak (at least about the issues he's talking about lately), I like him. ETA: CiC...not CoC...CoC is what I want to violate when I'm elaborating about my feelings regarding Odumbo...
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We need a guy from the middle of no where, former military, trained to handle stress and adapt and overcome, endowed with integrity and the ability to do math and obsessed with the Constitution of the United States of America and all the wisdom and debate that created it. Trump has a lot to gain from cuddling up with bankers, I wouldn't trust him to NOT fuck me to further his legacy. But, as always with American politics, it's a choice between a shit sandwich or shit sandwich on a stick. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I find it terribly unlikely the GOP will nominate him. But if he somehow did get the nomination I would vote for him. How could anyone be worse than Obama? He better not pull a Perot and split the opposition vote. He'll hand it over to Obama. http://modemfighter.mo.funpic.de/fufufufufu.jpg http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/04/11/trump-will-probably-run-as-independent-if-he-doesnt-win-gop-nomination/ He's a progressive plant. Gin up the tards by talking about Obama's BC then split the vote because people are to lazy to research where he stands on shit that matters. |
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He's very good at spending other people's money and filing bankruptcy. He'd make a perfect president!   
BK as a business tactic isn't even close to the evil some of you people think it is. And I'd invest with him at the drop of a hat. Ze joke, yous missed it. Did ze Germanz steal your humor? |
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Trump is an idiot. A billionaire, yes, but an idiot. Just check out his statements on gun control. He's a gun grabber. beat me by a few seconds. Ill have to look that up. Oh boy, He's a gun grabber ! ! ! ! Do you think, as the righties pic he would EVER push some gun ban? Nope ! he'll tow the party line. he doesn't care about guns..... he cares about money. he cares about capitolism. he cares about seeing our country do well. Plus, his kid owns a BUNCH of guns. His favorite is the DREADED black rifle. Wount take much to change his mind. He don't care folks......... it's about the $$$$$$$$$$$. Get behind the guy because if we don't....... Well, it's gonna suck.......... I totally agree. The book that his gun comments came from was written as a way to test the waters at the time. Any of you guy's that don't think you can plan ahead that far should study his patience on buying the rail yards. Another thing he always preaches is never bet unless it's a sure thing. That's why I'm so interested in the birth dedicate ordeal. He wouldn't open his mouth unless he had something. As far as the donations go, he's just greasing palms in the places he does business. Very small dollar amounts compared to what he could pay. |