[ARCHIVED THREAD] - ? for guys with back problems (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/2/2011 1:14:47 PM EDT
so i went to bed thursday night all was well. wake up friday lower back at base of spine left side hurts like hell. i figured well it came on all of a sudden i should be able to walk it off. well here it is saturday and its gotten even worse. everything hurts, sitting , laying, bending, walking is a real bitch. i dont want to go to the doctor despite 3 wimmenze telling me i should (no u aint gettin pics  ) reason being they always tell me that my knee and back issues are from being fat and unfit. im 6'2 240. so my question is what is the worst that could happen if i keep just waiting it out ?
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so i went to bed thursday night all was well. wake up friday lower back at base of spine left side hurts like hell. i figured well it came on all of a sudden i should be able to walk it off. well here it is saturday and its gotten even worse. everything hurts, sitting , laying, bending, walking is a real bitch. i dont want to go to the doctor despite 3 wimmenze telling me i should (no u aint gettin pics ) reason being they always tell me that my knee and back issues are from being fat and unfit. im 6'2 240. so my question is what is the worst that could happen if i keep just waiting it out ?Well, if it is a herniated disc or severely bulging disc it can cause your legs to give out, more severe pain, and incontinence of the bladder and/or bowels. If it is severe, you probably want to get it checked soon. I have severe back problems and have had my spine fused to fix the issues. I had a good 5 years and now when I'm walking my whole leg from hip to foot goes numb in the middle of walking. My pain is excruciating. |
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I injured my back OTJ a few years ago (ruptured disc) and I had Spinal decompression initiated within 3 days. While sometimes it still hurts like hell, it has never gotten as bad as it was. I would recommend that kind of therapy. Basically they stretch you on a rack, but its real slow and computer controlled. If you don't do anything then you could damage the nerves, you might have some kind of neuropathy and loose some use of extremities, extreme pain from sciatica (i've seen grown men cry from bad cases of this).... |
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Backs are funny things, it could be something small that will go away on it's own or something not so small. Not being in good shape is bad for your back but usually you can't tell that until you are old. I had a back issue that would crop up every now and then, I went to the doc once about it and they said nothing was wrong. It stopped going away last year and I had an mri which showed stuff wrong with my back. An xray will only pic up bone issues, mri's will show injury to soft tissue. I'm going to physical therapy right now but it's not helping, I actually think there have been some changes that are not reflected in the old mri. I know, I'm not much help. There was a thread here recently and apparently certain issues can become untreatable if left untreated. I'm refering to the thread on lamenectmies. I'll try to find the link. I think you should go and listen to the doc. The best time to nip something in the bud is when you are young enough to heal. The older you get the more this shit sucks and the harder it is to treat it seems. eta: here is the link to the back thread. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1160884 |
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so i went to bed thursday night all was well. wake up friday lower back at base of spine left side hurts like hell. i figured well it came on all of a sudden i should be able to walk it off. well here it is saturday and its gotten even worse. everything hurts, sitting , laying, bending, walking is a real bitch. i dont want to go to the doctor despite 3 wimmenze telling me i should (no u aint gettin pics ) reason being they always tell me that my knee and back issues are from being fat and unfit. im 6'2 240. so my question is what is the worst that could happen if i keep just waiting it out ?Have you tried any icy hot, or thermacare wraps? |
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Backs are funny things, it could be something small that will go away on it's own or something not so small.
Not being in good shape is bad for your back but usually you can't tell that until you are old. I had a back issue that would crop up every now and then, I went to the doc once about it and they said nothing was wrong. It stopped going away last year and I had an mri which showed stuff wrong with my back. An xray will only pic up bone issues, mri's will show injury to soft tissue. I'm going to physical therapy right now but it's not helping, I actually think there have been some changes that are not reflected in the old mri. I know, I'm not much help. There was a thread here recently and apparently certain issues can become untreatable if left untreated. I'm refering to the thread on lamenectmies. I'll try to find the link. I think you should go and listen to the doc. The best time to nip something in the bud is when you are young enough to heal. The older you get the more this shit sucks and the harder it is to treat it seems. Even though they are torture, a discogram is a good diagnostic tool when MRIs and CTs aren't showing much. My MRI and CTs showed a minor bulging disc. The discogram actually showed an annular tear. God it hurt so bad, but it helped them determine what was going on. When they actually got in there for surgery the disc was blown and there were "fragments" and nerve root scarring from it. |
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Go to a spine doctor (NOT a chiropractor). Have them take some x-rays and maybe an MRI. Back problems are degenerative, especially disc damage. If caught and treated early then they can be rectified with maybe injections or minor, minimally invasive orthoscopic surgery or managed with pain meds and an exercise program. If you let them go, of fall for a line of BS from some chiropractor then you wind up having to have lumbar fusion surgery and a fair amount of metal hardware attached to your backbone. |
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You're a big guy and it may not help your situation, but the sooner you get it checked out and have an MRI, you'll know for sure what the problem is and can treat it accordingly. You can do some various stretching to try and help, but doing the wrong things could make it worse too. Skip the chiropractor and go to the real DR. I've got 2 herniated disks in my lower back right now and my dad is going in for an operation 3 more herniated thoracic disks next month. He's having some of the physical issues mentioned above, specifically bladder control and legs. |
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so i went to bed thursday night all was well. wake up friday lower back at base of spine left side hurts like hell. i figured well it came on all of a sudden i should be able to walk it off. well here it is saturday and its gotten even worse. everything hurts, sitting , laying, bending, walking is a real bitch. i dont want to go to the doctor despite 3 wimmenze telling me i should (no u aint gettin pics ) reason being they always tell me that my knee and back issues are from being fat and unfit. im 6'2 240. so my question is what is the worst that could happen if i keep just waiting it out ?Have you tried any icy hot, or thermacare wraps? no |
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Wanna end up paralyzed? My wife begged me to go to the hospital one night for back pain and I decided to be Mr. Indestructible.
I now am a T11 paraplegic. 
Wanna know how bad I wish I'd have listened to the "wimmenz?" A trip to the doctor is WAY smarter than living the rest of your life in a wheelchair. Ask me how I know! Now get yourself to a Doctor! |
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so i went to bed thursday night all was well. wake up friday lower back at base of spine left side hurts like hell. i figured well it came on all of a sudden i should be able to walk it off. well here it is saturday and its gotten even worse. everything hurts, sitting , laying, bending, walking is a real bitch. i dont want to go to the doctor despite 3 wimmenze telling me i should (no u aint gettin pics ) reason being they always tell me that my knee and back issues are from being fat and unfit. im 6'2 240. so my question is what is the worst that could happen if i keep just waiting it out ?Have you tried any icy hot, or thermacare wraps? no I have that same problem every now and then, usually when I life something wrong. Try putting some heat on it, as it could be a pulled muscle or something similar. Try some heat for a couple of days, if it does not get better...see the doc. Either way I hope you get better. |
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What I do when my lower two bulged disks give me problems:
Do back exercises. It helps a lot. Let me know and I can scan and email a page I got from a back health doc at my doctors office. Get out and walk. It will help a ton an I should do this more. I sued to walk 2 to 4 miles a day, 7 days a week and it really helped. Now I need to start again. Ice packs. Lay down with one on your back. 2 Ibuprofen and two extra strength tylenol. It helps a lot. I also have a script for flexiral (sic) when it gets really bad. See your doctor. Edit: Do not use heat unless directed by a physician. |
| Go see a good sports Dr. I always thought they were a joke, till I effed up my shoulder. When I drove to see him I had to grab the bottom of the steering wheel cause I could not lift my arm up. Left his office at 100% pain free and full range of motion. Not that pricey, was like a C note. Well worth it. I still go from time to time for some tweaks. |
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Wanna end up paralyzed? My wife begged me to go to the hospital one night for back pain and I decided to be Mr. Indestructible. I now am a T11 paraplegic.
Wanna know how bad I wish I'd have listened to the "wimmenz?" A trip to the doctor is WAY smarter than living the rest of your life in a wheelchair. Ask me how I know! Now get yourself to a Doctor! So sorry to hear this. I done my time in a chair, and it's the worst thing that ever happened to me. Fammy, as a friend, listen to him. Get it checked out. |
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Grow a pair and walk it off. RIF thats what im trying to do  Seriously though, go get it checked out. I could be as simple as a pulled muscle or possible disk issues which can leave you paralyzed. You've got a hoard of people with bad backs telling you to get your tail to the doc. What do you think that means?
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Grow a pair and walk it off. RIF thats what im trying to do Seriously though, go get it checked out. I could be as simple as a pulled muscle or possible disk issues which can leave you paralyzed. how do you fuck your back up while your sleeping though  i could see if i did something to injure it but it just popped up out of nowhere ?
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Grow a pair and walk it off. RIF thats what im trying to do Seriously though, go get it checked out. I could be as simple as a pulled muscle or possible disk issues which can leave you paralyzed. You've got a hoard of people with bad backs telling you to get your tail to the doc. What do you think that means? roger that , thanx for the time guys |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Grow a pair and walk it off. RIF thats what im trying to do Seriously though, go get it checked out. I could be as simple as a pulled muscle or possible disk issues which can leave you paralyzed. how do you fuck your back up while your sleeping though i could see if i did something to injure it but it just popped up out of nowhere ? You's be amazed as to how fragile the back can be. Turn wrong and it could pull a muscle. Hell, flipping over at night could have been the last straw on a bad disk you didn't even know you had. |
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Grow a pair and walk it off. RIF thats what im trying to do Don't be stubborn about it. What do you have to lose by going to the doctor, FAR less than walking around with something seriously wrong. I suffer daily with constant pain, limitations, etc. My spine feels like it is in a vice grip. I cannot physically do many things I'd love to be able to do. Things as simple as walking through the grocery store is very painful for me. I can't play sports, and do fun things with my children. I had my back surgery at 22 years old. I will be 32 this year and feel like an old women. I have seen old women get around better than me. Now that my legs are going numb while I am walking I am worrying about paralysis one day and it scares me. For you it could be a simple fix, but if you wait you will end up having to get major back surgery or even paralysis. 
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Quoted: Holy smokes man, sorry to hear that. What is the back story (no pun intended)? It can't be that you hurt your back getting out of bed one day and next thing you know you're a paraplegic.Wanna end up paralyzed? My wife begged me to go to the hospital one night for back pain and I decided to be Mr. Indestructible. I now am a T11 paraplegic. Wanna know how bad I wish I'd have listened to the "wimmenz?" A trip to the doctor is WAY smarter than living the rest of your life in a wheelchair. Ask me how I know! Now get yourself to a Doctor! |
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Grow a pair and walk it off. RIF thats what im trying to do Seriously though, go get it checked out. I could be as simple as a pulled muscle or possible disk issues which can leave you paralyzed. how do you fuck your back up while your sleeping though i could see if i did something to injure it but it just popped up out of nowhere ?
Because you are truly relaxed when sleeping, sometimes the way you sleep puts strain on the back. Funny thing is you never know its happening. I do it all the time with my neck. I just wake up and can't turn my head to the side. |
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Wanna end up paralyzed? My wife begged me to go to the hospital one night for back pain and I decided to be Mr. Indestructible. I now am a T11 paraplegic.
Wanna know how bad I wish I'd have listened to the "wimmenz?" A trip to the doctor is WAY smarter than living the rest of your life in a wheelchair. Ask me how I know! Now get yourself to a Doctor! This. Nerve damage is serious. |
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how do you fuck your back up while your sleeping though i could see if i did something to injure it but it just popped up out of nowhere ?
Because you are truly relaxed when sleeping, sometimes the way you sleep puts strain on the back. Funny thing is you never know its happening. I do it all the time with my neck. I just wake up and can't turn my head to the side. i know that feeling this is different. thats why i even questioned it |
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Ibruprofen and stretch your back and hamstrings. Then monday morning call the dr.
I'm 29,i have I herniated disk and 2 bulging disks. I have always had some back pain since hs. Last august, I pushed the jetskis off the trailer and thought my back fell out my ass. I had the cortisone shot in november. Still not 100%. Actually last sunday I couldn't do anything but lay on the floor on my stomach. Today I was out cutting up trees. Every day is different. Take care of your back. |
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Grow a pair and walk it off. RIF thats what im trying to do Seriously though, go get it checked out. I could be as simple as a pulled muscle or possible disk issues which can leave you paralyzed. how do you fuck your back up while your sleeping though i could see if i did something to injure it but it just popped up out of nowhere ?
I have been there for the last 6 + months and still fighting Percoset Flexiril ,Nerotin ,Celebrex, Tramadol and Ass Loads of Ibuprofen and Naproxen and Steroid Injections etc etc and I'm still Hurtin 
Next they want to surgecaly remove or drain the offending disc........I don't think so ................. |
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Go to a spine doctor (NOT a chiropractor). Have them take some x-rays and maybe an MRI. Back problems are degenerative, especially disc damage. If caught and treated early then they can be rectified with maybe injections or minor, minimally invasive orthoscopic surgery or managed with pain meds and an exercise program. If you let them go, of fall for a line of BS from some chiropractor then you wind up having to have lumbar fusion surgery and a fair amount of metal hardware attached to your backbone. +1 Stay far away from the Chiropractor. Go see an Orthopedic Surgeon to get checked out. They have a shot like Cortisone, but lasts for several years. They stuck me right in the middle of my spine to get to the disc, but I haven't had much pain for several years. Little by little I'm noticing some pain in that area where the bad disc is, so I might be due for another shot. The doc told me he has one guy that comes in every five years or so for this. If you need surgery, the modern minimal evasive techniques are wonderful. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Backs are funny things, it could be something small that will go away on it's own or something not so small. Not being in good shape is bad for your back but usually you can't tell that until you are old. I had a back issue that would crop up every now and then, I went to the doc once about it and they said nothing was wrong. It stopped going away last year and I had an mri which showed stuff wrong with my back. An xray will only pic up bone issues, mri's will show injury to soft tissue. I'm going to physical therapy right now but it's not helping, I actually think there have been some changes that are not reflected in the old mri. I know, I'm not much help. There was a thread here recently and apparently certain issues can become untreatable if left untreated. I'm refering to the thread on lamenectmies. I'll try to find the link. I think you should go and listen to the doc. The best time to nip something in the bud is when you are young enough to heal. The older you get the more this shit sucks and the harder it is to treat it seems. Even though they are torture, a discogram is a good diagnostic tool when MRIs and CTs aren't showing much. My MRI and CTs showed a minor bulging disc. The discogram actually showed an annular tear. God it hurt so bad, but it helped them determine what was going on. When they actually got in there for surgery the disc was blown and there were "fragments" and nerve root scarring from it. Damn!!!! One of the things I have is an "annular tear"!!!!! I didn't think that's what is causing my discomfort. Nothing seems to help! Even the shot didn't help and I have never had a cortisone shot that didn't help. Also "facets disease" whatever that is. I have "cervical disk disease" too. Apparently they call injuries diseases these days. I didn't think these was surgery for annular tears or the other stuff and was starting to feel hopeless. I still feel hopeless but I'm going to go back to my orthopedic doctor and maybe they can do another mri. |
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Quoted: Wanna end up paralyzed? My wife begged me to go to the hospital one night for back pain and I decided to be Mr. Indestructible. I now am a T11 paraplegic. Wanna know how bad I wish I'd have listened to the "wimmenz?" A trip to the doctor is WAY smarter than living the rest of your life in a wheelchair. Ask me how I know! Now get yourself to a Doctor! Damn! How does that happen?!? Sucks! |
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Quoted: I have an inversion table...works great. My dad ignored the symptoms and lost all feeling in his left leg at age 55 or so. I am thinking of getting one of those but want to be sure it works. When I had my bicycle wreck that injured my neck I had a storebought traction kit. I was starting to lose feeling in my hands and that cured it. Till a few years ago anyway. What table do you have? Are there differant ones? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Grow a pair and walk it off. RIF thats what im trying to do Don't be stubborn about it. What do you have to lose by going to the doctor, FAR less than walking around with something seriously wrong. I suffer daily with constant pain, limitations, etc. My spine feels like it is in a vice grip. I cannot physically do many things I'd love to be able to do. Things as simple as walking through the grocery store is very painful for me. I can't play sports, and do fun things with my children. I had my back surgery at 22 years old. I will be 32 this year and feel like an old women. I have seen old women get around better than me. Now that my legs are going numb while I am walking I am worrying about paralysis one day and it scares me. For you it could be a simple fix, but if you wait you will end up having to get major back surgery or even paralysis. http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc144/spankeyzgirl/spinalfusion001.jpg 
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I injured my back OTJ a few years ago (ruptured disc) and I had Spinal decompression initiated within 3 days. While sometimes it still hurts like hell, it has never gotten as bad as it was. I would recommend that kind of therapy. Basically they stretch you on a rack, but its real slow and computer controlled. If you don't do anything then you could damage the nerves, you might have some kind of neuropathy and loose some use of extremities, extreme pain from sciatica (i've seen grown men cry from bad cases of this).... +1 Sciatica pain from nerve damage is absolutly horrible. I live with it every minute of the day, also causes severe muscle spasms from chest to toe. Get ti checked out, don't end up like me, blew a disc at home, just started working for a new job, no ins. Had to tough it out for 4 years before I could get back to work and afford surgury. By then it was too late, spinal cord had become scarred. |
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County hospital is great  doc came in talked to me pushed on it prescribed me a mini pharmacy and good bye. At least he didnt tell me im just a fatso  No X-rays? Nope never even moved off the bed or bent twisted nothing that you would normally do What the hell, did you go to a Vets office by mistake? That is really odd, usually for back injuries they at bare minimum do an x-ray or two. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: County hospital is great doc came in talked to me pushed on it prescribed me a mini pharmacy and good bye. At least he didnt tell me im just a fatso No X-rays? Nope never even moved off the bed or bent twisted nothing that you would normally do You need to go to another Dr. and at least have an X-ray done. There's no sense in suffering with pain and being doped up when there are treatments that could help. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: County hospital is great doc came in talked to me pushed on it prescribed me a mini pharmacy and good bye. At least he didnt tell me im just a fatso No X-rays? Nope never even moved off the bed or bent twisted nothing that you would normally do Make an appointment to see a spine specialist on Monday. |
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County hospital is great doc came in talked to me pushed on it prescribed me a mini pharmacy and good bye. At least he didnt tell me im just a fatso No X-rays? Nope never even moved off the bed or bent twisted nothing that you would normally do What the hell, did you go to a Vets office by mistake? That is really odd, usually for back injuries they at bare minimum do an x-ray or two. Im not at a va its the county hospital in da hood. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: County hospital is great doc came in talked to me pushed on it prescribed me a mini pharmacy and good bye. At least he didnt tell me im just a fatso No X-rays? Nope never even moved off the bed or bent twisted nothing that you would normally do What the hell, did you go to a Vets office by mistake? That is really odd, usually for back injuries they at bare minimum do an x-ray or two. Not necessarily. If the emergency room is busy then the Dr. may try and free up the bed. That said, I've never seen anyone get out of an emergency room in less than 3 hours. |