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Posted: 5/11/2002 8:14:19 PM EDT
My wife and I are planning to move from Missouri next year to live in another part of the country. She seems to like the Roanoke area of Virginia. Or Blacksburg. As for me, as long as they have trees and I can bring along my small collection of firearms, I'll be happy. VA has CCW right? If so, double happy for me, because we don't have that here. Yet. My wife would like to work in a museum, run a bed and breakfast or some other artsy type job. She is just finishing her master's in Geography. I'm a computer programmer/database administrator geek with about 6 years experience. Any comments about those areas or about VA in general would be greatly appreciated. TIA misanthrope747
Link Posted: 5/11/2002 8:24:42 PM EDT
whoa it must be getting late, at first read I thought the title of your post said "A question about viagra" Sorry.
Link Posted: 5/11/2002 8:26:35 PM EDT
I'm not ready for viagra yet Crappybob. Maybe in a few years I'll need a jump start but today I'm still doing pretty good. :) misanthrope747
Link Posted: 5/11/2002 8:27:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Crappybob: whoa it must be getting late, at first read I thought the title of your post said "A question about viagra" Sorry.
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Hmmm...I saw "Vagina".
Link Posted: 5/11/2002 9:22:54 PM EDT
Virginia is EXCELLENT! (coming from a former Marylander): Shall-issue CCW Class 3 okay Some really nice ranges NRA Headquarters! GOA Headquarters! Make sure you join the Virginia citizens Defense League, they are good people!: [url]www.vcdl.org[/url] Welcome!
Link Posted: 5/11/2002 9:31:16 PM EDT
Only a few downsides here, 1 handgun a month law, no carry anywhere that serves alchocal(resturants too, not just bars), but other than that's it's ok. No paperwork in most areas to buy handguns though. All you need is 2 forms that have you VA address on them, utilites bill, bankstatment, license, ect.. All-in-all not a bad state. Property tax sucks, but what do you expect in a commonwealth?
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 6:09:21 AM EDT
misanthrope747, i believe i can help you with roanoke. i was a police officer there. my wife wanted to move back home to mich, or i would still be there. roanoke is a nice city to work in. but i would not live in the city. roanoke county borders the city, salem is great and my favorite is franklin county. 15 min drive from downtown roanoke, your out in the country, taxes are way lower than roanoke city. when i retire i will most likely move back to the roanoke area. oh yea franklin county is the moon shine capital of the world.
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 6:24:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 6:35:20 AM EDT
Virginia truly is a "gun friendly" state and Roanoke is a beautiful area. Money Magazine just listed it as one of their top places to retire. This means you have a duty to move their and offset all of the liberal anti-gun A.. Holes who will respond to Money Magazine's findings regarding Roanoke. Additionally, there are a lot of Virginians on this board some have sponsored some incredible shoots. You can do a search over the last year and see some great posts and pictures. The pro-gun lobby has considerable power in the state, even the current democratic Governor Mark Warner, went to the NRA promising no new anti-gun legislation if they would stay out of the campaign endorsing neither candidate and remaining neutral. The governor was true to his word (so far) and signed a pro-gun bill prohibiting local government's from banning licensed CCW citizen's from carrying in municipal buildings. I am active duty Army living in Norfolk and sadly am being transferred to the New York City area, but I am keeping my house in Norfolk to finance my retirement move to Roanoke. The down side is all the good gun shows are in SE Virginia, (Richmond and Hampton) so you would have a little drive. Regards from Norfolk
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 6:52:08 AM EDT
Thanks for the info everybody. Glad to know that the state is pretty gun friendly. That was definitely a concern for me. Maybe I'll start showing up at the VA shoots next year. :) misanthrope747
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 7:04:50 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 8:59:41 AM EDT
Welcome to the Commonwealth. Just a few rules. 1: Thy shall live in the country well away from the city. 2: Thy shall only vist NOVA, not live there. 3: Thy shall vote a Republican Governor in office in 3 years. ( I tried this time) I you do those few things you should start off good. Roanoke area is nice. Try looking at Lynchburg also. A little smaller but still a nice town. Winters are a little rougher the more west that you go. Bedford county is experincing a lot of growth now. It is located between Roanoke and Lynchburg. Nice area, mountains are nice! The smaller the community the more I like it. So it all depends on your lifestyle. If you are looking to go nightclubing, then the smaller community might not be what you are looking for.
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 9:31:08 AM EDT
Nightclubbing is definitely not for me. The older I get the less I can deal with the concentrated smoke. And the music, that's even worse, at least here in Columbia MO. I'm looking for a place way out in the boonies with a high speed internet connection so I can work from home most of the time. Yeah, and with a gold mine on it too. :) It takes a lot for me to vote for anybody other than a Republican. I'm starting to like the Libertarians though. I just wish they had more of a chance to win. So, I usually vote so that a democrat (patoeey) doesn't win. What are the winters/summers like there? We get about 20 inches of snow and the temp seems to stay around 35. We mostly get rain/ice/sleet. And it drops to -10 or so for several days every year. Summers are in the 90's and humid here. A few days over 100 are normal.
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 9:39:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
Originally Posted By misanthrope747: Thanks for the info everybody. Glad to know that the state is pretty gun friendly. That was definitely a concern for me. Maybe I'll start showing up at the VA shoots next year. :) misanthrope747
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Your always welcome to come to a VA shoot. We had a fellow come down from NJ for the last one. Here is me on another members Full Auto 1919 [img]http://www.ar15.com/members/albums/VA%2Dgunnut%2FPicture%2520013small%2Ejpg[/img]
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Hmm... So my ears were burning for a reason![;D] Yeah, I took that picture and let me tell you, you would be very happy living there! Nice people, nice environment, nice gun laws... You just can't go wrong. (This is me being jealous and wishing I had the opportunity to move there tomorrow)
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:44:08 PM EDT
great place, wouldnt leave it i've lived in SW Va. (Roanoke/Blacksburg Area) for the past 4 yrs. God bless it. - shall issue permit - CAN carry in a place that serves alcohol, just not concealed... - allow full auto. but have some dumb "agressive use" clause. - Blacksburg Chief of Police is very VERY cool about NFA items.
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:58:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Crappybob: whoa it must be getting late, at first read I thought the title of your post said "A question about viagra" Sorry.
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I did the same thing. Ugh.
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:58:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SKSBoy: no carry anywhere that serves alchocal(resturants too, not just bars
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Actually, you CAN open carry in places that serve alcohol on premises. If they ask you leave, you must. But I would most likely not return to a place of business that wanted to oppose my Second Amendment rights... Scott
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 2:43:20 PM EDT
What are the winters/summers like there? We get about 20 inches of snow and the temp seems to stay around 35. We mostly get rain/ice/sleet. And it drops to -10 or so for several days every year. Summers are in the 90's and humid here. A few days over 100 are normal.
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there is a saying around here " if you don't like the weather in VA, wait 5 min. It will change" We had a very mild winter this past year. Summers are HUMID! Can't lie to you on that one.
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 4:15:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DScottHewitt:
Originally Posted By SKSBoy: no carry anywhere that serves alchocal(resturants too, not just bars
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Actually, you CAN open carry in places that serve alcohol on premises. If they ask you leave, you must. But I would most likely not return to a place of business that wanted to oppose my Second Amendment rights... Scott
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That's what I understood from the laws, but i didn't want to post in and get someone in trouble. Have you ever open carried in one of those places? If so, where and what happened? I dont have the balls to do it [:)] I have a "friend" who "says" he carries consealed in resturants as long as he's not drinking.
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 4:30:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 4:44:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SKSBoy:
Originally Posted By DScottHewitt:
Originally Posted By SKSBoy: no carry anywhere that serves alchocal(resturants too, not just bars
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Actually, you CAN open carry in places that serve alcohol on premises. If they ask you leave, you must. But I would most likely not return to a place of business that wanted to oppose my Second Amendment rights... Scott
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That's what I understood from the laws, but i didn't want to post in and get someone in trouble. Have you ever open carried in one of those places? If so, where and what happened? I dont have the balls to do it [:)] I have a "friend" who "says" he carries consealed in resturants as long as he's not drinking.
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I was thinking the samething, I visit Va alot and I am wondering what has happened when you tried open carry? Did anyone bother you about it?
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 6:49:58 PM EDT
I've lived in the Lynchburg,Va area most all of my life. It sure is a great area. Currently I live in the Bedford area and am going to move closer to Lynchburg. Roanoke and Blacksburg are nice too. There is nothing like the mountains of Va. If you're into watersports we have Smith Mountain lake. It has over 500 miles of shoreline and borders Bedford Co, Franklin Co and Pittsylvania Co. It is full of game fish including huge Striped bass. There are an abundance of stocked trout streams too. If you like hunting, the area has national forests within a relatively short drive( under an hour). Also, there are several shooting ranges sponsored by the national forest service. One is in Wythville, Blacksburg and one in Catawba. If you are into hiking, the Appalachian trail runs near Roanoke. There are also many other smaller trails. If you're a history buff Virginia is filled with our country's history. Lexington is about an hour from Roanoke. Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee are both buried there. The summers here can be a bear. It's hot and humid. The winters can go either way. the past few winters have been relatively mild but sometimes it can get into the teens and rarely into the single digits but does'nt stay there long. We can get snow several inches deep and it be melted the next day. All in all I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
Link Posted: 5/13/2002 1:46:41 PM EDT
All in all I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
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I agree!
Link Posted: 5/13/2002 2:11:39 PM EDT
I work in Roanoke, and live in the New River Valley, about 15 minutes from Blacksburg. If you need to work in the city, there's no reason to live in the city. Come on down, son! We'll hold a spot for ya! Email me off line if I can be of any help (real estate ads, magazines, newspapers, etc.)
Link Posted: 5/13/2002 2:39:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U: I was thinking the samething, I visit Va alot and I am wondering what has happened when you tried open carry? Did anyone bother you about it?
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I open-carry regularly at various local restaurants. Every single one of them has been extremely cool about it, and I have yet to have a problem. And this is in Occupied (Northern) Virginia, the least gun-friendly part of the state. The local Logan's Roadhouse in Fair Lakes actually looks forward to hosting my shooting club on Wednesday nights after our range time. Twelve or so of us will descend upon them (all carrying openly), and they're always happy to see us. We tip well and are nice to the waiters and waitresses. In fact, at one point the manager of that establishment took me aside and told me that some other patrons had freaked out about us being there, and she'd told them that they needed to cope, because we were good customers. At another point I got to listen to our waiter in a Ruby Tuesday's (the one nearest NRA headquarters, and therefore familiar with shooters and open carry) explain to some irate customers (who had seen some of us carrying) that if they were offended by us, they always had the option of leaving.[:D] -BP
Link Posted: 5/13/2002 3:01:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BrokenPaw: [The local Logan's Roadhouse in Fair Lakes actually looks forward to hosting my shooting club on Wednesday nights after our range time. Twelve or so of us will descend upon them (all carrying openly), and they're always happy to see us. We tip well and are nice to the waiters and waitresses.
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Where do you shoot? NRA HQ, Blue Ridge?
Link Posted: 5/13/2002 6:48:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BrokenPaw:
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U: I was thinking the samething, I visit Va alot and I am wondering what has happened when you tried open carry? Did anyone bother you about it?
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I open-carry regularly at various local restaurants. Every single one of them has been extremely cool about it, and I have yet to have a problem. And this is in Occupied (Northern) Virginia, the least gun-friendly part of the state. The local Logan's Roadhouse in Fair Lakes actually looks forward to hosting my shooting club on Wednesday nights after our range time. Twelve or so of us will descend upon them (all carrying openly), and they're always happy to see us. We tip well and are nice to the waiters and waitresses. In fact, at one point the manager of that establishment took me aside and told me that some other patrons had freaked out about us being there, and she'd told them that they needed to cope, because we were good customers. At another point I got to listen to our waiter in a Ruby Tuesday's (the one nearest NRA headquarters, and therefore familiar with shooters and open carry) explain to some irate customers (who had seen some of us carrying) that if they were offended by us, they always had the option of leaving.[:D] -BP
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Well thast really good news to hear.Growing up in the peoples republic of maryland its so hard for my mind to achive thought of open carry without a permit! You said that you open carry in N.Va what parts? I understand that you must not open carry in parts of N.VA that has more than 160,000 people in it.
Link Posted: 5/13/2002 7:23:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/13/2002 7:45:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By VA-gunnut: § 18.2-287.4. Carrying loaded firearms in public areas prohibited; penalty. It shall be unlawful for any person to carry a loaded firearm on or about his person on any public street, road, alley, sidewalk, public right-of-way, or in any public park or any other place of whatever nature that is open to the public (i) in any city with a population of 160,000 or more or (ii) in any county having an urban county executive form of government or any county or city surrounded thereby or adjacent thereto or in any county having a county manager form of government. The provisions of this section shall not apply to law-enforcement officers, licensed security guards, military personnel in the performance of their lawful duties, or any person having a valid permit to carry such firearm or to any person actually engaged in lawful hunting or lawful recreational shooting activities at an established shooting range or shooting contest. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. For purposes of this section, "firearm" means any (i) semi-automatic center-fire rifle or pistol which expels a projectile by action of an explosion and is equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine which will hold more than twenty rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock or (ii) shotgun with a magazine which will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered.
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If you don't live on the I95 corridor you don't have to worry about that law. Notice the stipulations, city 160000+, urban county, county manager, county adjacent to above. I live in Augusta County, open carry perfectly legal here. Open carry in Fairfax County not only not recommended, it is illegal (although only a misdemeanor for the first offense, I believe it is a felony for a subsequent event).
Link Posted: 5/14/2002 4:39:40 AM EDT
For purposes of this section, "firearm" means any (i) semi-automatic center-fire rifle or pistol which expels a projectile by action of an explosion and is equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine which will hold more than twenty rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock or (ii) shotgun with a magazine which will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered.
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Which means open carry of a pistol is perfectly legal if it DOESN'T have a greater than 20rd mag in it. Read it. You can even carry a rifle, like an AK or an AR as long as you don't have a magazine of "GREATER than 20rds at the time of the offense" in it or a folding stock or a silencer. Open carry in large cities (160,000+) is not prohibited under this state statute. It does limit what you can carry openly, but a revolver or pistol with a 20rd or less mag is legal under this law. Ross
Link Posted: 5/14/2002 5:15:59 AM EDT
Welcome to the Old Dominion. I live in Roanoke and went to school in Blacksburg (VT). Try to live in the SW part of the city or in the surrounding mountains. Don Caldwell, the local CA (Commonwealth's Attorney) will sign for Class III items. Concealed carry is easy to get and is shall issue. And the RRRC (Roanoke Rifle and Revolver Club) is here too. It's black rifle friendly, and we just had a three gun match last month. As far as work goes, there are quite a few jobs available, especially for the line of work your wife is into. The only downside of the are is the growing gay and lesbian population. Last year the paper ran a series of front page articles on the "mushrooming" gay and lesbian population. It wouldn't be so bad if they were like the Pink Pistols (a particular pro-gun gay group). Again, welcome. If you have any questions, drop me a line. toast
Link Posted: 5/14/2002 5:50:17 AM EDT
...is northern virginia really that bad? i ask because i may get to move (with the company i currently work for) to northern virginia. i'd probably end up living in culpeper, fauquier, rappahannock or loudon counties. based on census and voting data, i thought that most these counties were pretty rural and conservative. are they really as bad as some yall make them out to be?
Link Posted: 5/14/2002 5:51:47 AM EDT
Come on over!! I live in Richmond, but it seems like the Blacksburg or Roanoke areas would be better for you. And as someone else said, when you come you should really join the [url=www.vcdl.org]Virginia Citizen's Defense League[/url]. Good luck!!
Link Posted: 5/14/2002 5:53:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sloth: ...is northern virginia really that bad? i ask because i may get to move (with the company i currently work for) to northern virginia. i'd probably end up living in culpeper, fauquier, rappahannock or loudon counties. based on census and voting data, i thought that most these counties were pretty rural and conservative. are they really as bad as some yall make them out to be?
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When people talk about Northern Virginia being bad, they are mostly refering to Fairfax and Arlington Counties, and the City of Alexandria. The places you mentioned are pretty nice. ***Edited to add that Loudon and Prince William Counties may get infected by NOVA liberalism soon though.
Link Posted: 5/14/2002 7:17:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sloth: ...is northern virginia really that bad? i ask because i may get to move (with the company i currently work for) to northern virginia. i'd probably end up living in culpeper, fauquier, rappahannock or loudon counties. based on census and voting data, i thought that most these counties were pretty rural and conservative. are they really as bad as some yall make them out to be?
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Bah, they are all just jealous. They forget we get hazardous duty pay for living in Fairfax County. [;)]
Link Posted: 5/14/2002 7:19:01 AM EDT
And no, it isn't bad. Just traffic sucks big time.
Link Posted: 5/14/2002 9:48:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 7: Where do you shoot? NRA HQ, Blue Ridge?
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Usually NRA. Occasionally Blue Ridge, but I generally don't go to those meets. I prefer the well-lit well-ventilated NRA range. Even though the girl that works at BR is cute... I actually haven't been getting out to the range much at all of late, because Renaissance Faire Fight Cast rehearsals have been taking up much of my available time. I need to get back into shooting regularly. ObPlug: Everyone here should go to the Virginia Renaissance Faire on Memorial Day weekend in Fredericksburg. If you don't, I'll...well, nothing, really, but you should still come, because it's a great show and I'm in it... [:D] -BP
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