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2/28/2011 12:57:58 PM EDT
Gonna let the parties involved handle this in a more professional manner.
2/28/2011 1:01:06 PM EDT
[#1]
go after the people who stole it, the ups. It's not Troys problem that someone stole it, god I hate thieves
2/28/2011 1:01:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Did they weigh your package when you sent it from UPS? I'd imagine the destination weight would differ from the originating point weight if a UPS employee switched it out inroute (which it sounds like they did.)

2/28/2011 1:01:51 PM EDT
[#3]
You're up the creek without a paddle

UPS is notorious for shenanigans.
2/28/2011 1:02:35 PM EDT
[#4]
That sucks.
2/28/2011 1:05:15 PM EDT
[#5]
Wait, you mailed the rail in the factory box, or did you put the factory box inside a generic one? I once had a El Paso Saddlery box arrive empty because they advertise to everyone what could possibly be inside.
2/28/2011 1:10:56 PM EDT
[#6]
I'm a little more concerned about you getting fixed.



(Tag, but UPS should cover it.  If not, small claims court.)
2/28/2011 1:13:53 PM EDT
[#7]
Don't all UPS boxes come with 200.00 insurance by default?  You will have to file a claim with UPS.
2/28/2011 1:14:17 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Did they weigh your package when you sent it from UPS? I'd imagine the destination weight would differ from the originating point weight if a UPS employee switched it out inroute (which it sounds like they did.)



I put it in a drop box.
2/28/2011 1:14:47 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Wait, you mailed the rail in the factory box, or did you put the factory box inside a generic one? I once had a El Paso Saddlery box arrive empty because they advertise to everyone what could possibly be inside.


I mailed it in the box that Troy sent me to mail it.  I have picks of the box I'll post up when I get home.
2/28/2011 1:14:50 PM EDT
[#10]
UPS..that does not surprise me it was stolen.

That sucks, contact UPS about it, but get ready to wait a very long time.

It took me 6 months to finally get restitution from UPS for a package that was stolen at a hub.

UPS fought tooth and nail against the claim.
2/28/2011 1:39:03 PM EDT
[#11]
So mad right now.
2/28/2011 2:02:26 PM EDT
[#12]
Hope you get everything fixed and soon.

Next time I might recommend registered, signature required, Insured for twice the value.  Then they can't bitch.
2/28/2011 2:13:32 PM EDT
[#13]
Drop boxes are for 2-day and next day parcels, not ground.

Did you record the tracking number before you sent it out?
2/28/2011 2:18:19 PM EDT
[#14]
Gotta wonder why they bothered putting the chunk of PVC in, it's not like it needed the bulk or it would bring the weight up.  Maybe they just had it laying around and thought it would be funny.  Thieves should have their balls cut off so they can't reproduce.



The free UPS insurance is for $100 I think, after that you have to pay.  But it's been a while since I checked.




Good luck!
2/28/2011 2:34:09 PM EDT
[#15]
At least the fucker stole a defective piece of gear.
2/28/2011 2:43:03 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Hope you get everything fixed and soon.

Next time I might recommend registered, signature required, Insured for twice the value.  Then they can't bitch.


Yeah, now I know.  I figured with THEIR BOX and their label it would they would worry about covering THEIR PRODUCT.   But I guess not.  

I will have way less pull with UPS than they would.  I'm really upset about this and can't believe it happened.
2/28/2011 2:58:45 PM EDT
[#17]
If Troy sent you the tag and box, they are responsible for making the claim.

They should give you another rail and then take it up with UPS.  The $100 will cove their cost.
2/28/2011 2:59:44 PM EDT
[#18]
Now it's a free rail.
2/28/2011 3:02:15 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Now it's a free rail.


Huh?
2/28/2011 3:05:26 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Now it's a free rail.


Yeah, let's punish Troy for going the extra mile to help out! UPS will tell them to fuck off, too. At best after a lot of staff time they will get $100 back next year.

I know a manuf. co that used to hire a full time person to call and file claims when UPS failed to deliver within their time guarantees. It was a small town, they could afford a 30-hour per week PT person at $10 an hour to make those claims. Owner said it was one of their higher ROI profit centers because the customers rarely complained when a package was a day late due to shipping.
2/28/2011 3:12:12 PM EDT
[#21]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Now it's a free rail.




Huh?


I meant for whomever found it assume he just lost it on the street etc.  I didn't read the part about it being stolen.



 
2/28/2011 3:13:44 PM EDT
[#22]
The local UPS outlet always warns me about shipping to well-known firearm or firearm parts manufacturers, because those packages always get torn open or completely disappear because the thieving employees know what company names to look for.  I get told to abbreviate the name in such a way that the receiver knows it's for them, but it's not painfully obvious to people while in transit.  They not only admit that UPS employees somewhere along the line are doing this, but that there's also been several "stings" set up to catch 'em.



I'm sure it happens with USPS and Fedex too, but I'm told it happens a LOT more with UPS..it must if they're having to set up stings to catch these guys.
2/28/2011 3:19:11 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
The local UPS outlet always warns me about shipping to well-known firearm or firearm parts manufacturers, because those packages always get torn open or completely disappear because the thieving employees know what company names to look for.  I get told to abbreviate the name in such a way that the receiver knows it's for them, but it's not painfully obvious to people while in transit.  They not only admit that UPS employees somewhere along the line are doing this, but that there's also been several "stings" set up to catch 'em.

I'm sure it happens with USPS and Fedex too, but I'm told it happens a LOT more with UPS..it must if they're having to set up stings to catch these guys.


I always obscure the name whenever I ship to any firearms company. "MSA Research" instead of MSAR, "KT" instead of Kel-Tec, etc.