Posted: 2/15/2011 3:33:20 PM EDT
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I recently took a hunters safety class in Florida (twice), the instructors insisted on ALWAYS pointing the gun in a safe direction...
during the gun handling portion of the class (Live fire exercises), the instructors insisted after checking that the gun is unloaded leave the breech/action open and look down the barrel of the gun for obstructions. I told the instructors that i would not look down the barrel of the gun and offered him a solution if i was concerned of an obstruction. I want to get a feel for how others view what is being taught to the future hunters / concealed weapon carriers of the state. I am planning on writing the state to explain the disconnect between always pointing the gun in a safe direction and looking down the barrel. |
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What's wrong with looking down the barrel from the breech end? No fucking way I'm looking down the barrel from the muzzle end in the field. Not much luck doing that with a semi auto or pump shotgun without disassembly. When I pull the gun out in the morning before heading into the woods, I typically open the bolt, look in the chamber, then look down the muzzle. 
Want to make sure you didn't lose a cleaning patch in there or anything. |
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What's wrong with looking down the barrel from the breech end? No fucking way I'm looking down the barrel from the muzzle end in the field. Not much luck doing that with a semi auto or pump shotgun without disassembly. When I pull the gun out in the morning before heading into the woods, I typically open the bolt, look in the chamber, then look down the muzzle.
Want to make sure you didn't lose a cleaning patch in there or anything. i understand the concern, its the execution that scares me... with my 870, i just pull the barrel...takes 30 seconds max and i wont get shot in the face |
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Quoted: What's wrong with looking down the barrel from the breech end? No fucking way I'm looking down the barrel from the muzzle end in the field. If it's a bolt action remove the bolt and look from the breech. Autoloaders or lever action stick a white piece of paper/cloth at the breech and point the muzzle at the sun (a flashlight will do before sunrise/after sunset). |
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Quoted: Quoted: What's wrong with looking down the barrel from the breech end? No fucking way I'm looking down the barrel from the muzzle end in the field. Not much luck doing that with a semi auto or pump shotgun without disassembly. When I pull the gun out in the morning before heading into the woods, I typically open the bolt, look in the chamber, verify the gun is unloaded, then look down the muzzle. Want to make sure you didn't lose a cleaning patch in there or anything. Yep, almost the same here. |
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What's wrong with looking down the barrel from the breech end? No fucking way I'm looking down the barrel from the muzzle end in the field. Not much luck doing that with a semi auto or pump shotgun without disassembly. When I pull the gun out in the morning before heading into the woods, I typically open the bolt, look in the chamber, then look down the muzzle.
Want to make sure you didn't lose a cleaning patch in there or anything. i understand the concern, its the execution that scares me... with my 870, i just pull the barrel...takes 30 seconds max and i wont get shot in the face Go with what you know. But that's true, if you always keep it pointing downrange, you'll never shoot anybody, including yourself. |
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What's wrong with looking down the barrel from the breech end? No fucking way I'm looking down the barrel from the muzzle end in the field. If it's a bolt action remove the bolt and look from the breech. Autoloaders or lever action stick a white piece of paper/cloth at the breech and point the muzzle at the sun (a flashlight will do before sunrise/after sunset). That's a pretty good idea. Hell I stick pistols and rifles to my eye in gun stores checking out the rifling. Just slip your thumbnail or fingernal under the chamber for light to see by.
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If you clear a gun of all ammo, check the chamber, and keep the bolt open, there is no danger. Guns don't magically find ammo, load themselves and fire. Do I recommend doing it? No. But can it be done safely? yes. Unfortunately, a lot of people are accidentally shot by an unloaded gun. |
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If you clear a gun of all ammo, check the chamber, and keep the bolt open, there is no danger. Guns don't magically find ammo, load themselves and fire. Do I recommend doing it? No. But can it be done safely? yes. Unfortunately, a lot of people are accidentally shot by an unloaded gun. Actually, they shoot themselves with loaded guns. The reason I don't recommend it is because it is easy to mistake a loaded gun for an unloaded gun. |