Posted: 2/5/2011 1:29:09 PM EDT
I recently purchased a group of firearms from a PD. Most of them were Smith model 60's and Colt Detectives. Also included was this gem. So what can you tell me about it. Seems it's worth a little bit of money.
Thanks in advance. Bomber |
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Nice shape! Not as valuable as you believe, obsolete caliber, just not as desired as a early 1911 by most, you'll do the best financially with finding someone who has a decent 1911 collection of 1911s and want's the models that were refined into the 1911.
It's worth decent money but it's a harder sell because of the obsolete caliber. Love the fire blue bits on it though. Hasn't ever been dicked with either, excellent find. How did the PD get it? Turned in or taken off a perp and no one claimed it? If you are selling it, look to try to list it where there is a good Colt collector following, you'' get your best $$$ that way. |
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Nice shape! Not as valuable as you believe, obsolete caliber, just not as desired as a early 1911 by most, you'll do the best financially with finding someone who has a decent 1911 collection of 1911s and want's the models that were refined into the 1911. It's worth decent money but it's a harder sell because of the obsolete caliber. Love the fire blue bits on it though. Hasn't ever been dicked with either, excellent find. How did the PD get it? Turned in or taken off a perp and no one claimed it? If you are selling it, look to try to list it where there is a good Colt collector following, you'' get your best $$$ that way. I'm not trying to sell it, at the moment. I was just wondering approximately what it may be worth. I'm not sure how or where they got it. IT was a very eclectic mix of guns they had in their armory. I sold most of the guns already but decided to keep this one. |
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Wow, that is in really nice shape !!!
Colt 1902 semi-auto. Uses a swinging link like the 1911, but IIRC there is a second link at the front of the gun, below the muzzle, which theoretically causes the barrel to swing at the front and the back, with the barrel staying parallel with the line of the bore. No safety, slide stop or grip safety. Chambered in .38 auto, dimensionally identical to the .38 super but loaded to lower pressures, with an app velocity of about 1000 fps. Do NOT fire .38 super in this gun. The 1905 Colt .45 was very similar to this. The 9mm (swedish)1903 had the familiar dust cover/radiused lower front of the slide along with the grip safety. Browning kind of combined a mish mash of various designs when he came up with the 1911. I believe the patent (trials) version of the 1911 didn't have the manual safety and was added after the initial tests. |
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Looks like its a 1903 Colt .38 pocket model
http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/38PM/38pm.html Looks like that pistol was made in 1910 based on the serial #, no clue on value. |
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That looks to me like a Colt 1903 Pocket in .38 ACP (NOT to be confused with a 1903 Pocket Hammerless!!) I could be wrong though, but the barrel looks shorter than a 1902. The serial number range matches that of a 1903 as well.
My 28th edition Blue Book puts %95 at $1500 or better. That is in fantastic condtion, but not sure it'd make the %95 mark by a collector trying to strike a hard bargain. You might just want to baby that sucker and hang on to it, too. They don't make them like that anymore, that's for sure... |
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Nice shape! Not as valuable as you believe, obsolete caliber, just not as desired as a early 1911 by most, you'll do the best financially with finding someone who has a decent 1911 collection of 1911s and want's the models that were refined into the 1911. It's worth decent money but it's a harder sell because of the obsolete caliber. Love the fire blue bits on it though. Hasn't ever been dicked with either, excellent find. How did the PD get it? Turned in or taken off a perp and no one claimed it? If you are selling it, look to try to list it where there is a good Colt collector following, you'' get your best $$$ that way. I'm not trying to sell it, at the moment. I was just wondering approximately what it may be worth. I'm not sure how or where they got it. IT was a very eclectic mix of guns they had in their armory. I sold most of the guns already but decided to keep this one. I'll do some checking for you. |
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That looks to me like a Colt 1903 Pocket in .38 ACP (NOT to be confused with a 1903 Pocket Hammerless!!) I could be wrong though, but the barrel looks shorter than a 1902. The serial number range matches that of a 1903 as well. My 28th edition Blue Book puts %95 at $1500 or better. That is in fantastic condtion, but not sure it'd make the %95 mark by a collector trying to strike a hard bargain. You might just want to baby that sucker and hang on to it, too. They don't make them like that anymore, that's for sure... Funny you posted this. I was showing my pistol to a customer/friend who is a Fed LEO and he pulled one of the pocket hammerless Colt's from an ankle holster. 
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As has been mentioned that's a 1903 Pocket Hammer cambered in .38ACP. I've got one myself! 
Yours has the spur hammer and triangular serrations so it is a later model. And based off the serial number, it looks like it is a 1910 manufacture. In 1903, the first year of production, serial numbers started at 19999 and went to 19900. My serial is 19937. So mine was 62nd off the line. 
Unfortunately mine isn't in all that great of shape. It is missing one grip panel, has a few nicks and dings, the finish is spotty, and its missing the magazine. When I can afford to have it professionally refinished I'm going to get it cleaned up. As was also mentioned, .38ACP is the same dimensionally as .38 Super but .38 Super should NOT be fired in it. I have been looking but it doesn't look like anyone out there makes .38ACP anymore. I've got a Dillon 550 and, once the gun is cleaned up, plan on picking up some .38 Super components and loading up some .38ACP. |
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Quoted: Funny you posted this. I was showing my pistol to a customer/friend who is a Fed LEO and he pulled one of the pocket hammerless Colt's from an ankle holster. http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm77/hardgear/2011-02-05_16-03-24_303.jpg I carry a 1903 hammerless (love this pistol) quite a bit in the warm months but would love an ankle holster for it. Would you please query your friend for me as to what model of holster he uses? Thank you! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Funny you posted this. I was showing my pistol to a customer/friend who is a Fed LEO and he pulled one of the pocket hammerless Colt's from an ankle holster. http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm77/hardgear/2011-02-05_16-03-24_303.jpg I carry a 1903 hammerless (love this pistol) quite a bit in the warm months but would love an ankle holster for it. Would you please query your friend for me as to what model of holster he uses? Thank you! Have heard that makarov holsters work quite well for the pocket hammerless 1903. I just IWB mexican'd it. Not ideal, but for the dress code, it was about all I could get away with. I carried one in the summer for a while when I needed slim as possible. Mine was a bit beat, so it's reliability suffered and I ditched it. If I could get buy another that shot well, I would. Unlike the crappy P3AT and the LCP, you can actually pull the trigger without squeezing it out of your hand like a bar of soap. |