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1/28/2011 5:08:22 PM EDT
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/28/fbi-issues-warrants-involvement-cyber-attacks/?test=latestnews

7 proxies must not have helped them.
1/28/2011 5:09:35 PM EDT
[#1]
so



u mad
1/28/2011 5:10:57 PM EDT
[#2]
fucking good. that's what the pieces of shit gets for vandalism of government property and trying to support a group that wants to destabilize the US and the world.



The BEST hackers aren't freelancers, they work for nation states.
1/28/2011 5:12:26 PM EDT
[#3]
DDoS, how do they work.

Fucking magnets, that's how.

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1/28/2011 5:12:50 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
fucking good. that's what the pieces of shit gets for vandalism of government property and trying to support a group that wants to destabalize the US and the world.

The BEST hackers aren't freelancers, they work for nation states.


The BEST hackers... haven't been caught yet.
1/28/2011 5:14:52 PM EDT
[#5]
50/50 4chan will win.
1/28/2011 5:17:47 PM EDT
[#6]
1/28/2011 5:17:59 PM EDT
[#7]
Buncha warrants served on Anonymous guys involved in the wikileaks DDOS attacks over the last couple days. I suspect anon will by laying low for a while.
1/28/2011 5:18:36 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
50/50 4chan will win.


70/30 4 chan by tap out
1/28/2011 5:20:09 PM EDT
[#9]
People still don't get it.

Anon does not care if a few foot soldiers get tossed to the wolves.  They are easily replaced.
1/28/2011 5:21:15 PM EDT
[#10]
4chan is a very weird place. I don't get the point of it.
1/28/2011 5:21:44 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
so

u mad


he so mad
1/28/2011 5:24:48 PM EDT
[#12]
its 'interesting' that the theyre not going after the people that DDoS'd Wikileaks to begin with and that initiated the 4chan response
1/28/2011 5:25:33 PM EDT
[#13]




Quoted:



Quoted:

50/50 4chan will win.




70/30 4 chan by tap out






You're dreaming if you think 4chan can compete against the best coders and best code breakers in the world at the NSA. Not that the NSA, CIA or any other have time to deviate on finding the locations of small time DoS "hackers".



Which it is an insult to the term "hacker" to call the people who commit malicious attacks with computers.
1/28/2011 5:26:21 PM EDT
[#14]
Anonymous pretends to wield some sort of power, but in reality it is a bunch of internet basement dwellers that run and scatter when real work has to be done. Setup some servers for a DDoS? Sure, but some powerful political force? Never.
1/28/2011 5:30:16 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
People still don't get it.

Anon does not care if a few foot soldiers get tossed to the wolves.  They are easily replaced.


It tends to discourage the rest. You're looking at something like 50 people about to go to PMITA prison. Maybe one or two will have enough info to roll over on someone bigger. Apparently they did a takedown of an IRC server at Hurricane Electric, which may give them some more COMINT.

Do not seek the attention of The Man. They've got a bunch of guys with guns, badges, and prisons, and when The Man puts his mind to it, He can fuck you over in a bad, bad way.
1/28/2011 5:34:06 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
50/50 4chan will win.


70/30 4 chan by tap out



You're dreaming if you think 4chan can compete against the best coders and best code breakers in the world at the NSA. Not that the NSA, CIA or any other have time to deviate on finding the locations of small time DoS "hackers".

Which it is an insult to the term "hacker" to call the people who commit malicious attacks with computers.


Sorry I forgot this smiley.. It was ment as a joke.. Calm down sparky..
1/28/2011 5:35:40 PM EDT
[#17]




Quoted:



Quoted:





Quoted:



Quoted:

50/50 4chan will win.




70/30 4 chan by tap out






You're dreaming if you think 4chan can compete against the best coders and best code breakers in the world at the NSA. Not that the NSA, CIA or any other have time to deviate on finding the locations of small time DoS "hackers".



Which it is an insult to the term "hacker" to call the people who commit malicious attacks with computers.




Sorry I forgot this smiley.. It was ment as a joke.. Calm down sparky..


Calm down over what? I wasn't being mean about it, just putting facts out there.

1/28/2011 5:36:50 PM EDT
[#18]
I heard about this on the news this morning. Wonder how they are liking it?
1/28/2011 5:38:40 PM EDT
[#19]




Quoted:

I heard about this on the news this morning. Wonder how they are liking it?


I get a funny image of this little pale skinny guy sitting in prison next to a big muscled out black man and thinking "oh shit, please dont hurt me"

1/28/2011 5:40:59 PM EDT
[#20]



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I heard about this on the news this morning. Wonder how they are liking it?


I get a funny image of this little pale skinny guy sitting in prison next to a big muscled out black man and thinking "oh shit, please dont hurt me"

Hey, at least he'll finally get to have sex!





 
1/28/2011 5:42:07 PM EDT
[#21]



Quoted:





Quoted:




Quoted:

I heard about this on the news this morning. Wonder how they are liking it?


I get a funny image of this little pale skinny guy sitting in prison next to a big muscled out black man and thinking "oh shit, please dont hurt me"

Hey, at least he'll finally get to have sex!



 


He won't have a choice!!!



 
1/28/2011 5:43:24 PM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:





Quoted:




Quoted:

I heard about this on the news this morning. Wonder how they are liking it?


I get a funny image of this little pale skinny guy sitting in prison next to a big muscled out black man and thinking "oh shit, please dont hurt me"

Hey, at least he'll finally get to have sex!



 


Maybe even in the butt!

 
1/28/2011 5:45:21 PM EDT
[#23]
Remember people, cops only catch the dumb criminals.
1/28/2011 5:50:51 PM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:


Remember people, cops only catch the dumb criminals.


Most of the time, but luck or chance plays a part in some arrests.  



 
1/28/2011 5:52:30 PM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:


Remember people, cops only catch the dumb criminals.


You need to study history, some very, very smart criminals have been caught.   The cops at the federal and international level can wait a long time for the criminal to make that one mistake.  And no one, not even smart criminals, are perfect.

 
1/28/2011 5:53:04 PM EDT
[#26]




Quoted:

Remember people, cops only catch the dumb criminals.


Cops catch high profile criminals all the time.



Lots of those serial killers are extremely intelligent, but they still eventually get caught.
1/28/2011 5:56:34 PM EDT
[#27]
Some of those responsible have the power to influence others to go out and act on their behalf.

Those people will be just as hard to catch as some of the classic drug lords and kingpins of the mafia.

The little guys, the street pushers, the average idiot who gets caught up in the moment, those guys are going to get nailed and there likely won't be much to trace back to the actual guys responsible for the crap.   It's almost like little terror cells and the smart ones won't get caught.
1/28/2011 5:58:33 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Remember people, cops only catch the dumb criminals.

Cops catch high profile criminals all the time.

Lots of those serial killers are extremely intelligent, but they still eventually get caught.



Put enough highly intellegent people together and they can do some amazing things......

Just look at this place! JK
1/28/2011 5:59:22 PM EDT
[#29]




Quoted:

Some of those responsible have the power to influence others to go out and act on their behalf.



Those people will be just as hard to catch as some of the classic drug lords and kingpins of the mafia.



The little guys, the street pushers, the average idiot who gets caught up in the moment, those guys are going to get nailed and there likely won't be much to trace back to the actual guys responsible for the crap. It's almost like little terror cells and the smart ones won't get caught.


Yeah, reminds me of my time in Iraq. We got intel that many of the actual guys attacking us were sometimes terminally ill with something or whatever and they'd been exploited by the leaders in a sick twisted way to do their bidding while they sat back and watched the fireworks. They are the biggest hypocrites in the world, talking about going on a jihad and wanting to fight, yet 99% of the time they are running from house to house under cover and hiding and letting other people do their dirty work.

1/28/2011 6:03:15 PM EDT
[#30]



Quoted:





Quoted:


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50/50 4chan will win.




70/30 4 chan by tap out






You're dreaming if you think 4chan can compete against the best coders and best code breakers in the world at the NSA. Not that the NSA, CIA or any other have time to deviate on finding the locations of small time DoS "hackers".



Which it is an insult to the term "hacker" to call the people who commit malicious attacks with computers.
True, the correct word is "cracker".



 
1/28/2011 6:04:57 PM EDT
[#31]







Quoted:
Quoted:



Remember people, cops only catch the dumb criminals.




Cops catch high profile criminals all the time.
Lots of those serial killers are extremely intelligent, but they still eventually get caught.

Quoted:
Quoted:


Remember people, cops only catch the dumb criminals.



You
need to study history, some very, very smart criminals have been
caught.   The cops at the federal and international level can wait a
long time for the criminal to make that one mistake.  And no one, not
even smart criminals, are perfect.  

Point was if they catch a handful of '4chan' people, they just caught the dumb ones.
Goddamn this site doesn't seem to catch onto a general clue.





Fuck.





 
1/28/2011 6:35:46 PM EDT
[#32]
In before aimless says "I told you so"
1/28/2011 6:43:55 PM EDT
[#33]
Knowing Obama, the FBI probably only went after the Zombie computers. i.e. the ones that did not keep their virus definitions up to date and were taken over by the real hackers.




Impeach Obama for the Good of the Internet users.
1/28/2011 6:47:17 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Remember people, cops only catch the dumb criminals.

Cops catch high profile criminals all the time.

Lots of those serial killers are extremely intelligent, but they still eventually get caught.


Quoted:

Quoted:
Remember people, cops only catch the dumb criminals.

You need to study history, some very, very smart criminals have been caught.   The cops at the federal and international level can wait a long time for the criminal to make that one mistake.  And no one, not even smart criminals, are perfect.  



Point was if they catch a handful of '4chan' people, they just caught the dumb ones.

Goddamn this site doesn't seem to catch onto a general clue.

Fuck.  


I agree, why wouldn't they go after the low hanging fruit first?  They need to make it look like they're getting shit done.

I do believe that if they try hard enough they can catch the bigger fish though.  My guess is they have pretty much unlimited resources on a high profile case like this, compliments of the taxpayer.
1/28/2011 6:48:24 PM EDT
[#35]
good.
1/28/2011 6:53:37 PM EDT
[#36]
From the article:
"The attacks known as, "distributed denial of
service" or DDoS assaults, were designed to overwhelm the targeted
servers causing the websites to go down. The attacks were facilitated by
software tools the group makes available for free download on the
Internet, the FBI said –– a tool the agency noted did not mask the
identity of the attackers.


Such conduct is considered illegal, and if found guilty suspects could face up to 10 years in prison."










It looks like they just arrested some kids running the DDoS client They could have done that during any of the hundreds of other DDoS attacks.


They simply arrested some dumb kids on trumped up, BS charges, so they can say they "made some arrests" and tell Visa and MC that they are "on the case"
When I see the headline: "Hacker Group Anonymous Masterminds arrested for orchestrating cyber attacks"...I'll be interested.
Speed




 
1/28/2011 7:09:44 PM EDT
[#37]
Good, fuck those snot-nosed punks. The only thing decent about 4chan is the porn, and even then only once in a while.
1/28/2011 7:18:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Good, fuck those snot-nosed punks. The only thing decent about 4chan is the porn, and even then only once in a while.


And the "you raff you rose" threads.

1/28/2011 7:20:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
fucking good. that's what the pieces of shit gets for vandalism of government property and trying to support a group that wants to destabilize the US and the world.

The BEST hackers aren't freelancers, they work for nation states.


Gonna be funny to see pics of the idiots crying in court.
1/28/2011 7:23:01 PM EDT
[#40]



Quoted:








You're dreaming if you think 4chan can compete against the best coders and best code breakers in the world at the NSA.



You're dreaming if you think those NSA super heroes are not part of 4chan.





 
1/28/2011 7:24:06 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
People still don't get it.

Anon does not care if a few foot soldiers get tossed to the wolves.  They are easily replaced.


Ya, it's not that 4chan will win, they just won't lose
1/28/2011 7:44:35 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
I get a funny image of this little pale skinny guy...


5'4" & 110 lbs., kinda like this?



Busted for cyber-stalking just the other day per thesmokinggun.com. This is how I picture them.
1/28/2011 7:50:03 PM EDT
[#43]
Something tells me 4Chan is attacking 4Chan just to fuck with 4Chan.




1/28/2011 7:53:37 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
50/50 4chan will win.


70/30 4 chan by tap out



You're dreaming if you think 4chan can compete against the best coders and best code breakers in the world at the NSA. Not that the NSA, CIA or any other have time to deviate on finding the locations of small time DoS "hackers".

Which it is an insult to the term "hacker" to call the people who commit malicious attacks with computers.


I didn't know that "hacker" originated as a term for a person doing lawful work for a respectable employer.

Be that as it may, I believe that Anon (which does not even exist in any sense that we conceive of organizational existence) is infinitely malleable and therefore indestructable. It is the ultimate platform for leaderless resistance. It would be no great shakes for the whole thing to turn up running invisibly on an FBI server, or on the LDS Church's main genealogy server, or over Air Force One's wifi signal. Anon can't be stopped any more than profanity can be wiped out or impure thoughts extinguished across the globe.
1/28/2011 7:54:53 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Anonymous pretends to wield some sort of power, but in reality it is a bunch of internet basement dwellers that run and scatter when real work has to be done. Setup some servers for a DDoS? Sure, but some powerful political force? Never.


That's only because the people who are ANON at any given moment have no political goals. So far.
1/28/2011 7:59:38 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Some of those responsible have the power to influence others to go out and act on their behalf.

Those people will be just as hard to catch as some of the classic drug lords and kingpins of the mafia.

The little guys, the street pushers, the average idiot who gets caught up in the moment, those guys are going to get nailed and there likely won't be much to trace back to the actual guys responsible for the crap. It's almost like little terror cells and the smart ones won't get caught.

Yeah, reminds me of my time in Iraq. We got intel that many of the actual guys attacking us were sometimes terminally ill with something or whatever and they'd been exploited by the leaders in a sick twisted way to do their bidding while they sat back and watched the fireworks. They are the biggest hypocrites in the world, talking about going on a jihad and wanting to fight, yet 99% of the time they are running from house to house under cover and hiding and letting other people do their dirty work.


Oh, but you don't understand! I want more than anything to carry out a martyrdom operation, but it would be irresponsible  of me to do so because my intellect and guidance are critical to the continued existence of the movement. Believe you me, nothing would please me better than to leave my hairless catamite and go blow up some old ladies outside the mosque, but I just can't. I guess that's my burden to bear.
1/28/2011 8:08:11 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
I believe that Anon (which does not even exist in any sense that we conceive of organizational existence) is infinitely malleable and therefore indestructable. It is the ultimate platform for leaderless resistance.


Well said.

1/28/2011 8:08:48 PM EDT
[#48]
Anyone else hoping BadShovelHead shows up for this thread?

He was a hoot in the last one!

1/28/2011 8:18:16 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Remember people, cops only catch the dumb criminals.

You need to study history, some very, very smart criminals have been caught.   The cops at the federal and international level can wait a long time for the criminal to make that one mistake.  And no one, not even smart criminals, are perfect.  


Smart criminals are the ones who only do someone once, or not at all. If you've heard any stories about the FBI catching bank robbers. With the good ones, they're usually clueless for the first couple of robberies, then they eventually slip up, or someone gets arrested over something else.
1/28/2011 8:20:12 PM EDT
[#50]



Quoted:


4chan is a very weird place. I don't get the point of it.


or the obsession with the constant references to it here



 
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