Posted: 1/19/2011 8:21:13 PM EDT
| Apparently in California, there is such a thing as poaching wild boars. I was flipping through the channels and thought I would see what it was. Apparently, they are talking about poaching wild boars and they put planes up in the air to catch people using spotlights since a lot of hard core hog hunters like to do it under the cover of darkness. I knew Commiefornistan was screwed up, but holy hell. They're protecting those pests and wasting money on this shit? I thought they didn't have any money. |
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Why would you poach the fuckers, unless the laws has changed, no limit and tags are a buck ( and you can buy them in books ) 
Because someone realizes that paying the state to shoot a destructive non native pest animal is ridiculous and refuses to do so? Oh I agree completely but bringing the man down on you over a fucking dollar.
I was surprised I had to go get a hunting license to shoot ground squirrels here. |
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These boys would have a fit if they ever came out to Tx. We spot light hogs every time we go out, and we generally have enough weapons to field a small army. I normally take 3 rifles and a pistol or two for myself. All loaded. I've always wondered what tannerite would do to a group of pigs. Be like Carl from Caddyshack. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Eh, I don't get too picky on how a state decides to manage it's wildlife. The regs didn't seem to crazy to me. Buy tags, hunt in accordance with the law, and don't carry a loaded rifle on a public road. Plenty of states have laws like that. Not having a loaded rifle on a public road is pure idiocy imo. |
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it's making it sound like it's completely illegal to hunt hogs. In Texas, there is no such thing as poaching hogs. The Texans I work with here say you can indeed poach hogs if the smoker's broken or your out of your favorite dry rub. They tell me you can use a court bullion for a mild flavor or slow bake em skin side up in pyrex and poach em in their own fat for a french "compote" Then you fry up the stuff to make it crispy like bacon. Poaching hogs sounds pretty cool. 
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A cut and paste from last night's thread on the same episode... Quoted: Quoted: You fucking need tags to kill pests in kali?! green ammo is what I couldnt belive. Yeah, you need a license and usually need tags to kill anything here. See below for details. The "green" ammo thing is only in a few counties where the CA condor lives. Kinda' like the Fed ban on lead shot for waterfowl. It is an inconvenience but there is a work around. Anyone who hunts here knows damn well what the rules are or at least where to find them. Hogs are a nuisance here, there are thousands upon thousands of them in the hills around here. The season is year round. There are lots of hunters who would gladly take care of the problem but the landowners either don't want to allow access or they want to charge big bucks for access. Then there's the liability issues. I personally wouldn't allow strangers on my property to hunt but I would control my pests myself with no complaint. From the CA DFG website: There are laws in California that provide landowners with a variety of options for addressing wild pig-related property damage:
eta No night hunting except under the depredation permit. eta A map of the affected areas. http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/condor/docs/Ridley-TreeCondorPreservationAct.pdf |
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Eh, I don't get too picky on how a state decides to manage it's wildlife. The regs didn't seem to crazy to me. Buy tags, hunt in accordance with the law, and don't carry a loaded rifle on a public road. Plenty of states have laws like that. Not having a loaded rifle on a public road is pure idiocy imo. Agreed, but I know quite a few states have that specific law. Shouldn't that be something decided at the state level anyways? |
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You fucking need tags to kill pests in kali?! green ammo is what I couldnt belive. Yeah, you need a license and usually need tags to kill anything here. See below for details. The "green" ammo thing is only in a few counties where the CA condor lives. Kinda' like the Fed ban on lead shot for waterfowl. It is an inconvenience but there is a work around. Anyone who hunts here knows damn well what the rules are or at least where to find them. Hogs are a nuisance here, there are thousands upon thousands of them in the hills around here. The season is year round. There are lots of hunters who would gladly take care of the problem but the landowners either don't want to allow access or they want to charge big bucks for access. Then there's the liability issues. I personally wouldn't allow strangers on my property to hunt but I would control my pests myself with no complaint.
From the CA DFG website:
There are laws in California that provide landowners with a variety of options for addressing wild pig-related property damage:
eta No night hunting except under the depredation permit. eta A map of the affected areas. http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/condor/docs/Ridley-TreeCondorPreservationAct.pdf I guess that's fine for y'all. But since it's a pest animal, those rules seem quite insane. I do hope you're happy there, but the more I hear about it, the happier I am that I never have to go back. I do miss the Philippino food there in National City though. ;) |
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I know i know Kalifornia government is full-tard but actually devoting resources and money to prosecuting people for killing feral hogs an invasive species that threatens native wildlife? The game warden says as he's watching the feral hogs running around "that's what we're here for, protecting wildlife" Kailfornia, please please secede from the union freakin nut jobs out there http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1139204 |
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it's making it sound like it's completely illegal to hunt hogs. In Texas, there is no such thing as poaching hogs. Actually, there is such a thing. Hogs have been listed as exotics for several years. You really should read the little handbook that wallyworld hands out for free. |
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Quoted: Quoted: it's making it sound like it's completely illegal to hunt hogs. In Texas, there is no such thing as poaching hogs. Actually, there is such a thing. Hogs have been listed as exotics for several years. You really should read the little handbook that wallyworld hands out for free. Most of us do read it, and since afaik, no county has a closed season for feral hogs, then they obviously can't be poached. |
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From the Texas Parks and Wildlife site:
Exotic animal refers to grass-eating or plant-eating, single-hoofed or cloven-hoofed mammals that are not indigenous or native to Texas and are known as ungulates, including animals from the deer and antelope families that landowners have introduced into this state. Includes, but is not limited to feral hog, Aoudad sheep, Axis deer, Elk, Sika deer, Fallow deer, Blackbuck antelope, Nilgai antelope, and Russian boar. Exotic fowl refers to any avian species that is not indigenous to this state, including ratites (emu, ostrich, rhea, cassowary, etc.). There are no state bag or possession limits or closed seasons on exotic animals or fowl on private property. It is against the law to: * Hunt an exotic without a valid hunting license. * Hunt an exotic on a public road or right-of-way. * Hunt an exotic without the landowner's permission. * Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the owner's consent. No bag limit, no closed seasons. no possession limits. Just have to have a hunting permit. Sorry, can't be poached. TPW Site |
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it's making it sound like it's completely illegal to hunt hogs. In Texas, there is no such thing as poaching hogs. Actually, there is such a thing. Hogs have been listed as exotics for several years. You really should read the little handbook that wallyworld hands out for free. Most of us do read it, and since afaik, no county has a closed season for feral hogs, then they obviously can't be poached. Sure they can be poached. You can shoot one on the neighbor's land (or anybody's land) without permission. If you retrieve it, you can also be bagged for trespassing, and if you take your weapon with you, trespassing with a weapon. Look 'em up! These, and a few other laws are broken when you do that, one being sending bullets across property lines. |
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From the Texas Parks and Wildlife site: Exotic animal refers to grass-eating or plant-eating, single-hoofed or cloven-hoofed mammals that are not indigenous or native to Texas and are known as ungulates, including animals from the deer and antelope families that landowners have introduced into this state. Includes, but is not limited to feral hog, Aoudad sheep, Axis deer, Elk, Sika deer, Fallow deer, Blackbuck antelope, Nilgai antelope, and Russian boar. Exotic fowl refers to any avian species that is not indigenous to this state, including ratites (emu, ostrich, rhea, cassowary, etc.). There are no state bag or possession limits or closed seasons on exotic animals or fowl on private property. It is against the law to: * Hunt an exotic without a valid hunting license. * Hunt an exotic on a public road or right-of-way. * Hunt an exotic without the landowner's permission. * Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the owner's consent. No bag limit, no closed seasons. no possession limits. Just have to have a hunting permit. Sorry, can't be poached. TPW Site THIS! Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the owner's consent. |
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That is more a problem of property rights. Not shooting an animal that you aren't allowed. We are talking about having to have a pig tag and not being able to hunt them otherwise. That the state is wanting to protect pests. OOOHHH. Really? ETA: Actually, you stated hogs can't be poached. I said otherwise. Property rights are inviolable. Owner's permission and all that. And, it may not have been you, actually, but you backed the claim. |
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From the Texas Parks and Wildlife site: Exotic animal refers to grass-eating or plant-eating, single-hoofed or cloven-hoofed mammals that are not indigenous or native to Texas and are known as ungulates, including animals from the deer and antelope families that landowners have introduced into this state. Includes, but is not limited to feral hog, Aoudad sheep, Axis deer, Elk, Sika deer, Fallow deer, Blackbuck antelope, Nilgai antelope, and Russian boar. Exotic fowl refers to any avian species that is not indigenous to this state, including ratites (emu, ostrich, rhea, cassowary, etc.). There are no state bag or possession limits or closed seasons on exotic animals or fowl on private property. It is against the law to: * Hunt an exotic without a valid hunting license. * Hunt an exotic on a public road or right-of-way. * Hunt an exotic without the landowner's permission. * Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the owner's consent. No bag limit, no closed seasons. no possession limits. Just have to have a hunting permit. Sorry, can't be poached. TPW Site With the exception of needing a one dollar tag, those laws are THE SAME AS CALIFORNIAS. Shooting a wild hog with out a valid hunting license is poaching, in Cali and Texas. |
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Quoted: So they are going to waste time and money on DNA testing hair and blood on a deer?? The warden said that it shocks most peoples conscience when they shoot a doe. Why? It's a deer, and it's meat. WTF is wrong with these people?? I don't know about the dna thing, sounds like bullshit. But in most of the state does are not legally hunted. That's most, not all. eta We really do have a lot of restrictions on taking game. The manual is quite extensive and confusing. But we have something like 33,000,000 people here. There absolutely has to be rules. And if the land isn't public then it belongs to someone else and you need permission from the owner to hunt it. That is where most of the offenses occur, hunting on private property without permission. Over the years I have met DFG officers who were cool, they just wanted to check that you're legal. I will say that some of the guys in the show come across as occasional douches. Maybe it's just editing. There are a lot of dirty hunters here and that's a fact. |
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Quoted: From the Texas Parks and Wildlife site: Exotic animal refers to grass-eating or plant-eating, single-hoofed or cloven-hoofed mammals that are not indigenous or native to Texas and are known as ungulates, including animals from the deer and antelope families that landowners have introduced into this state. Includes, but is not limited to feral hog, Aoudad sheep, Axis deer, Elk, Sika deer, Fallow deer, Blackbuck antelope, Nilgai antelope, and Russian boar. Exotic fowl refers to any avian species that is not indigenous to this state, including ratites (emu, ostrich, rhea, cassowary, etc.). There are no state bag or possession limits or closed seasons on exotic animals or fowl on private property. It is against the law to: * Hunt an exotic without a valid hunting license. * Hunt an exotic on a public road or right-of-way. * Hunt an exotic without the landowner's permission. * Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the owner's consent. No bag limit, no closed seasons. no possession limits. Just have to have a hunting permit. Sorry, can't be poached. TPW Site If you shot them without a hunting license, that would be... POACHING... |
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Quoted: Quoted: From the Texas Parks and Wildlife site: Exotic animal refers to grass-eating or plant-eating, single-hoofed or cloven-hoofed mammals that are not indigenous or native to Texas and are known as ungulates, including animals from the deer and antelope families that landowners have introduced into this state. Includes, but is not limited to feral hog, Aoudad sheep, Axis deer, Elk, Sika deer, Fallow deer, Blackbuck antelope, Nilgai antelope, and Russian boar. Exotic fowl refers to any avian species that is not indigenous to this state, including ratites (emu, ostrich, rhea, cassowary, etc.). There are no state bag or possession limits or closed seasons on exotic animals or fowl on private property. It is against the law to: * Hunt an exotic without a valid hunting license. * Hunt an exotic on a public road or right-of-way. * Hunt an exotic without the landowner's permission. * Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the owner's consent. No bag limit, no closed seasons. no possession limits. Just have to have a hunting permit. Sorry, can't be poached. TPW Site If you shot them without a hunting license, that would be... POACHING... Unless they are depredating and you are the land owner or have the land owners permission to take them out - you do not need a hunting license in that instance. And since feral hogs are either heading to depredate, actively depredating, or coming back from drepedating...  |
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So they are going to waste time and money on DNA testing hair and blood on a deer?? The warden said that it shocks most peoples conscience when they shoot a doe. Why? It's a deer, and it's meat. WTF is wrong with these people?? I don't know about the dna thing, sounds like bullshit. But in most of the state does are not legally hunted. That's most, not all. eta We really do have a lot of restrictions on taking game. The manual is quite extensive and confusing. But we have something like 33,000,000 people here. There absolutely has to be rules. And if the land isn't public then it belongs to someone else and you need permission from the owner to hunt it. That is where most of the offenses occur, hunting on private property without permission. Over the years I have met DFG officers who were cool, they just wanted to check that you're legal. I will say that some of the guys in the show come across as occasional douches. Maybe it's just editing. There are a lot of dirty hunters here and that's a fact. I'd imagine most states back east you can take them...the dear are so thick....In Nebraska it was buy one get one free doe tags. You can legally take them in Idaho with the right tag... And you can carry a loaded whatever in the vehicle... There are a lot of douchebags out there who don't give a shit about the regs though... |
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So they are going to waste time and money on DNA testing hair and blood on a deer?? The warden said that it shocks most peoples conscience when they shoot a doe. Why? It's a deer, and it's meat. WTF is wrong with these people?? I don't know about the dna thing, sounds like bullshit. But in most of the state does are not legally hunted. That's most, not all. eta We really do have a lot of restrictions on taking game. The manual is quite extensive and confusing. But we have something like 33,000,000 people here. There absolutely has to be rules. And if the land isn't public then it belongs to someone else and you need permission from the owner to hunt it. That is where most of the offenses occur, hunting on private property without permission. Over the years I have met DFG officers who were cool, they just wanted to check that you're legal. I will say that some of the guys in the show come across as occasional douches. Maybe it's just editing. There are a lot of dirty hunters here and that's a fact. I'd imagine most states back east you can take them...the dear are so thick....In Nebraska it was buy one get one free doe tags. You can legally take them in Idaho with the right tag... And you can carry a loaded whatever in the vehicle... There are a lot of douchebags out there who don't give a shit about the regs though... When I did an elk calf capture and tagging with Idaho Fish and Game, I was advised by one of thier guys to consult with a lawyer before I took a hunting trip there as an out of state resident....there are so many damn laws for Idaho |
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Quoted: Quoted: So they are going to waste time and money on DNA testing hair and blood on a deer?? The warden said that it shocks most peoples conscience when they shoot a doe. Why? It's a deer, and it's meat. WTF is wrong with these people?? I don't know about the dna thing, sounds like bullshit. But in most of the state does are not legally hunted. That's most, not all. eta We really do have a lot of restrictions on taking game. The manual is quite extensive and confusing. But we have something like 33,000,000 people here. There absolutely has to be rules. And if the land isn't public then it belongs to someone else and you need permission from the owner to hunt it. That is where most of the offenses occur, hunting on private property without permission. Over the years I have met DFG officers who were cool, they just wanted to check that you're legal. I will say that some of the guys in the show come across as occasional douches. Maybe it's just editing. There are a lot of dirty hunters here and that's a fact. Texas has a population of 24,700,000 by that reasoning they'd have to have similar rules, right? |
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So they are going to waste time and money on DNA testing hair and blood on a deer?? The warden said that it shocks most peoples conscience when they shoot a doe. Why? It's a deer, and it's meat. WTF is wrong with these people?? I don't know about the dna thing, sounds like bullshit. But in most of the state does are not legally hunted. That's most, not all. eta We really do have a lot of restrictions on taking game. The manual is quite extensive and confusing. But we have something like 33,000,000 people here. There absolutely has to be rules. And if the land isn't public then it belongs to someone else and you need permission from the owner to hunt it. That is where most of the offenses occur, hunting on private property without permission. Over the years I have met DFG officers who were cool, they just wanted to check that you're legal. I will say that some of the guys in the show come across as occasional douches. Maybe it's just editing. There are a lot of dirty hunters here and that's a fact. I'd imagine most states back east you can take them...the dear are so thick....In Nebraska it was buy one get one free doe tags. You can legally take them in Idaho with the right tag... And you can carry a loaded whatever in the vehicle... There are a lot of douchebags out there who don't give a shit about the regs though... When I did an elk calf capture and tagging with Idaho Fish and Game, I was advised by one of thier guys to consult with a lawyer before I took a hunting trip there as an out of state resident....there are so many damn laws for Idaho I have heard similar comments before...even moreso about the fishing regulations... |
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You fucking need tags to kill pests in kali?! green ammo is what I couldnt belive. Yeah, you need a license and usually need tags to kill anything here. See below for details. The "green" ammo thing is only in a few counties where the CA condor lives. Kinda' like the Fed ban on lead shot for waterfowl. It is an inconvenience but there is a work around. Anyone who hunts here knows damn well what the rules are or at least where to find them. Hogs are a nuisance here, there are thousands upon thousands of them in the hills around here. The season is year round. There are lots of hunters who would gladly take care of the problem but the landowners either don't want to allow access or they want to charge big bucks for access. Then there's the liability issues. I personally wouldn't allow strangers on my property to hunt but I would control my pests myself with no complaint.
From the CA DFG website:
There are laws in California that provide landowners with a variety of options for addressing wild pig-related property damage:
eta No night hunting except under the depredation permit. eta A map of the affected areas. http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/condor/docs/Ridley-TreeCondorPreservationAct.pdf Wait a minute! Wait a minute! California requires that you have a hunting license to hunt on your own property? What kind of fucking bullshit is THAT? |
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When I did an elk calf capture and tagging with Idaho Fish and Game, I was advised by one of thier guys to consult with a lawyer before I took a hunting trip there as an out of state resident....there are so many damn laws for Idaho I have heard similar comments before...even moreso about the fishing regulations... Fishing wasnt so bad. I kept to the Henry's Fork. Some of the river specific stuff was a little confusing, but the guys at local fly shops hooked me up. I loved Idaho, and plan on more trips. I wouldn't mind living there at all. |