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12/5/2010 3:48:39 PM EDT
I want to order a Camelback they have cheaper(by $40) than anyone else but was wondering if these were the guys who take forever to ship.
12/5/2010 3:49:40 PM EDT
[#1]
You may as well write it off if you order.  Google Botach - it's a debacle.
12/5/2010 3:51:09 PM EDT
[#2]



Quoted:


I want to order a Camelback they have cheaper(by $40) than anyone else but was wondering if these were the guys who take forever to ship.


Make sure you call before placing your order to make sure they have it in stock.  I've ordered from them in the past without any problems, but I've always called to check first.



 
12/5/2010 3:53:53 PM EDT
[#3]
I have order two Aimpoint Micro's from them and a few other miscellaneous items without a hitch.



Some people said that they have had bad luck, but I have not.  
12/5/2010 3:54:33 PM EDT
[#4]
I ordered a barrel for my SBS from them a few months ago, it was the only item on my order and I didn't really care if I got it in a month. It showed up in less than a week.  I think the key is to only order the minimum number of items and don't plan on having them anytime soon.

Kharn
12/5/2010 3:54:34 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
You may as well write it off if you order.  Google Botach - it's a debacle.


Guess I was thinking of the right company. I'll try calling first too. Thanks.

Any other experiences guys?
12/5/2010 3:56:19 PM EDT
[#6]
I ordered 1 time and it came quick I think as long as it in stock, they ship
12/5/2010 3:59:22 PM EDT
[#7]
I've had one horrible experience with them and several great ones.  It's a crap shoot.
12/5/2010 4:01:20 PM EDT
[#8]
If they have it, it ships quickly. If not, your order hangs in limbo....FOREVER. Call to check.
12/5/2010 4:02:24 PM EDT
[#9]
I think there are Arfcomers who have been waiting on items for over a year. IIRC.
12/5/2010 4:03:03 PM EDT
[#10]
I ordered an Insight weapon light last year around this time, before I heard any of the hem-haw about Botach.  It showed up on my doorstep roughly a week later.
12/5/2010 4:08:24 PM EDT
[#11]
It's worth it to pay the extra $40 at a reputable business.  They are horrible.  Hundreds of horror stories online.  Just look it up.
12/5/2010 4:08:56 PM EDT
[#12]
If they have it in stock you'll probably get it pretty soon.  Calling and asking them if they have it in stock doesn't really help.  They'll tell you it's in stock whether it is or not.  Canceling orders is a fucking headache.  Their customer service is non-existent.    
12/5/2010 4:09:16 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I want to order a Camelback they have cheaper(by $40) than anyone else but was wondering if these were the guys who take forever to ship.

Make sure you call before placing your order to make sure they have it in stock.  I've ordered from them in the past without any problems, but I've always called to check first.
 


+1

I've had dozens of orders with botach come through without a hitch.
12/5/2010 4:11:00 PM EDT
[#14]
You will eventually get your stuff.  I would find it elsewhere though.
12/5/2010 4:12:24 PM EDT
[#15]
If you don't care whether or not you get it, go with Botach.

If you EVER plan on returning it, don't order from Botach.
12/5/2010 4:13:29 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
If they have it in stock you'll probably get it pretty soon.  Calling and asking them if they have it in stock doesn't really help.  They'll tell you it's in stock whether it is or not.  Canceling orders is a fucking headache.  Their customer service is non-existent.    


this

personally I would stay away from them but that is your choice
12/5/2010 4:15:24 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I want to order a Camelback they have cheaper(by $40) than anyone else but was wondering if these were the guys who take forever to ship.

Make sure you call before placing your order to make sure they have it in stock.  I've ordered from them in the past without any problems, but I've always called to check first.
 


That is the way to do it.  They use Yahoo for their e-commerce/shopping cart with is terrible with keeping track of whats in stock and whats out of stock.
12/5/2010 4:16:10 PM EDT
[#18]



Quoted:


I think there are Arfcomers who have been waiting on items for over a year. IIRC.


I bought a Snugpak (Black tactical 3) sleeping bag one year because they beat every other price by almost $100 on a $250 bag.  Big money.



Since it was drop shipped, I waited and waited and waited.  Calls, emails, more calls, begging.



Took about 6 months to get the silly thing.



**********************************



Another story I found hilarious:



1. Ordered a case of Red, Green and IR light sticks.  3 total cases @ 24 sticks a case.

2. Envelope arrives with one red, one green and one IR light stick in it.

3. I call, explain that I ordered and paid for cases and not individual sticks.  Girl apologizes profusely, rattles off my new shipping number and all's well.

4. Week later, another envelope with one red, one green and one IR stick in it.

5. Exasperated I call Botach and ask for a manager.  I explain the situation, email him pictures of what I received and so on.  He apologizes up and down and rattles off a new shipping number.

6. Three weeks later (ugh) a box is on my doorstep.  In it is 1 box red, 1 box green 1 box white with 1 red, 1 green and 1 IR singles laid inside, in an envelope.



I gave up.



 
12/5/2010 4:19:48 PM EDT
[#19]
It's surprising to me that Botach is even still in business. An identical thread to this one, 10 years ago, would have (and did) read exactly the same. Every single Botach thread since says the same thing. Better companies have gone bankrupt or closed doors left and right, but Botach charges on. What gives with them really?
12/5/2010 4:20:41 PM EDT
[#20]
Make sure you type in the word Stimulus to receive 10% off of your order.
12/5/2010 4:28:01 PM EDT
[#21]
i ordered once, got charged and the shipping info right away ....and
then two weeks went by.., i called and was told that the item was
back-ordered, of course i cancel my order and they gave me a refund.
probably wont order from them again.
 
12/5/2010 4:28:10 PM EDT
[#22]
I ordered from them a bunch before I ever found my way into GD.  


I have always gotten what I ordered, BUT there has been a time or two where an item didn't show up for a long  time.
12/5/2010 4:35:54 PM EDT
[#23]
i ordered from them, was worried because of all the bad reviews but they were great for me.
12/5/2010 4:38:19 PM EDT
[#24]
 N



1

I can't believe I got in on one on this thread.





 
12/5/2010 4:39:29 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:


It's surprising to me that Botach is even still in business. An
identical thread to this one, 10 years ago, would have (and did) read
exactly the same. Every single Botach thread since says the same thing.
Better companies have gone bankrupt or closed doors left and right, but
Botach charges on. What gives with them really?




but but but  I saved a few bucks



I agree as a internet seller it bugs the shit  out of me

the reason they are so cheap is they are a drop shipper that never says no even if they know they are not going to get it for a year



I get a couple times a week "well botach is cheaper" tell um yes they are and after waiting  3 months you can call me and actually get your item




 
12/5/2010 4:41:27 PM EDT
[#26]



Quoted:


i ordered once, got charged and the shipping info right away ....and then two weeks went by.., i called and was told that the item was back-ordered, of course i cancel my order and they gave me a refund.



probably wont order from them again.

 


Exactly my point.  Call first to check.



 
12/5/2010 9:45:55 PM EDT
[#27]
I just placed an order with them to see what happens..

No calls or anything..
Date        Sun Dec  5 22:31:03 PST 2010

Name                       Code                       Qty    Each  Options
––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––-
Heinie #3185 Glock LEDGE   Heinie-3185                  1  125.00
Straight Eight Night
Sight Set
Vickers Tactical Extended  Vickers-GMR                  1   14.95  Select = GMR001 - All Glock 9/40
Glock Magazine Release
Victory Glock 9mm 33rd     Victory-933RD                1   12.00
Magazines
                                                Subtotal  151.95
                                         Coupon discount  -15.20
                                              (stimulus)
                                           
CXS

 
12/5/2010 9:50:12 PM EDT
[#28]
the savings isn't worth the potental hassle, i would order from skd
12/5/2010 10:01:12 PM EDT
[#29]
I've been lucky twice, but each time wondered in my package would ever come in. Totally not worth the savings IMO
12/5/2010 10:06:28 PM EDT
[#30]
I ordered my TFO's from them the other week, and got them a few days later. From everything I've been told <I asked around first, and it seems the sentiment is echoed here> is that it's a gamble when you order with them. I just happened to win.
1/5/2011 10:02:19 AM EDT
[#31]



Quoted:


I just placed an order with them to see what happens..

No calls or anything..




Date        Sun Dec  5 22:31:03 PST 2010Name                       Code                       Qty    Each  Options––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––-Heinie #3185 Glock LEDGE   Heinie-3185                  1  125.00Straight Eight NightSight SetVickers Tactical Extended  Vickers-GMR                  1   14.95  Select = GMR001 - All Glock 9/40Glock Magazine ReleaseVictory Glock 9mm 33rd     Victory-933RD                1   12.00Magazines                                                 Subtotal  151.95                                          Coupon discount  -15.20                                               (stimulus)                                             
CXS  


A month later, no order but I did get an email about 2 Weeks ago saying the Heinie Sights were back-ordered and would ship in 2 weeks..



CXS



 
1/5/2011 10:05:32 AM EDT
[#32]
They were here, not they are not. I don't miss them.



I think they showed up on another gun forum after that with the same "Oh we have changed" song and dance.
1/5/2011 10:07:40 AM EDT
[#33]
I have ordered more that 20 shipments from Botach and have never had an issue. Lots of people say they have had issues, but again I have never had one.
1/5/2011 10:14:12 AM EDT
[#34]
Ordered from them once, and everything shipped quickly.
1/5/2011 10:49:06 AM EDT
[#35]
Mine ended up coming in on time.
1/5/2011 10:50:12 AM EDT
[#36]
You will eventually get your stuff.  
1/5/2011 10:53:00 AM EDT
[#37]
Don't do it.



It's highly likely that you'll get MORE than $40 worth of hassle, and never receive the product.




I tried them once. Never again.
1/5/2011 10:54:20 AM EDT
[#38]
I'll not do business with them due to their SLAP ripoff from ikickhippies.
1/5/2011 10:55:39 AM EDT
[#39]



Quoted:


I have ordered more that 20 shipments from Botach and have never had an issue. Lots of people say they have had issues, but again I have never had one.


I had 5 great orders, till this one..

But I'm not really that butt hurt cause Its not something I NEEDED..



CXS





 
1/5/2011 10:56:27 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
I want to order a Camelback they have cheaper(by $40) than anyone else but was wondering if these were the guys who take forever to ship.


Call to confirm it is instock, WITH BOTACH ALWAYS CALL!!!! and you will not have any problems.  Do not website order until you verify and you will be happy.
1/5/2011 11:04:10 AM EDT
[#41]




Quoted:



Quoted:

I want to order a Camelback they have cheaper(by $40) than anyone else but was wondering if these were the guys who take forever to ship.




Call to confirm it is instock, WITH BOTACH ALWAYS CALL!!!! and you will not have any problems. Do not website order until you verify and you will be happy.
I've called and had them confirm that an item was in stock when it wasn't.  Once again, calling doesn't mean shit with Botach.



1/5/2011 11:05:03 AM EDT
[#42]
Not worth the trouble, if you ask me (Which I guess you kind of did)
1/5/2011 11:30:06 AM EDT
[#43]
I got a military style CamelBak from these guys last week and it arrived in just a couple of days with no hassles.  Their prices are good and include the shipping in the price.  Check them out!

heartratemonitorsusa.com
1/5/2011 11:41:45 AM EDT
[#44]
I ordered a bunch of stuff before christmas, got it within a week. Ymmv
1/5/2011 12:00:16 PM EDT
[#45]
Let me start by saying that I know squat about Botach.

Let me also state that there are far to many hydration packs out there to settle on a Camelback.
Look into Ospray or DaKine or one of a hundred more. Don't settle for a Camelback.

Good luck. And as always should you or any member of your IM force be caught or killed, no wait. that is another guy.
1/5/2011 12:10:05 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
You will eventually get your stuff.  


Maybe.

I've had two orders from them. The first (before I knew their rep went great.

The second, after learning about them, went not so great. It went 6mos before I cancelled it. Two months or so after that, I got the refund. I guess they had to live up to their rep.

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1/5/2011 12:10:48 PM EDT
[#47]
I've received some orders correct and fast, some with pieces missing and fast, and one totally hosed and slow.
I've had to exchange a bunch of emails with them to get one order straightened out.

Buy from them if it's really cheap and you don't need it quickly.  

1/5/2011 12:19:08 PM EDT
[#48]
they make LAPG look good by comparison.
1/5/2011 12:19:20 PM EDT
[#49]



Quoted:


I want to order a Camelback they have cheaper(by $40) than anyone else but was wondering if these were the guys who take forever to ship.


It is called Botach Roulette. Might not fuck you every time you order but eventually....