Posted: 10/26/2010 10:26:46 PM EDT
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Could a Major General in the United States Air Force actually get away with unilaterally ordering a quarantine of a city like say Colorado Springs if, I don't know, some kind of emergency took place in say...the basement of Cheyenne Mountain? |
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Could a Major General in the United States Air Force actually get away with unilaterally ordering a quarantine of a city like say Colorado Springs if, I don't know, some kind of emergency took place in say...the basement of Cheyenne Mountain? If there was a good reason for it, certainly. If he did it for shit and giggles, probably not. |
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I am betting that a fire chief or battalion chief could do so. In high school I had a friend whose dad was a fire battalion commander. A BC (or most any officer-grade fireman) has awesome statutory authority at the scene of an emergency.
Anyone from BOTS who can verify this? |
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I was told that during the Cuban Missile Crisis, FEMA issued certain people "a license to kill" so to speak. It was absoute authority over a group of people in certain areas and orders to "handle" them by any means necessary if things were to get unruly in the bunkers.
It wouldn't surprise me if some BS like what you speak of existed. |
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I dunno... if a general walked into your local watering hole and started ordering people into cattle cars, how long before he gets his ass kicked? He'd better bring a pretty well-armed force.
Legal (e.g. regulatory) authority doesn't really much matter, when the average citizen doesn't recognize it. |
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Quoted: I was told that during the Cuban Missile Crisis, FEMA issued certain people "a license to kill" so to speak. It was absoute authority over a group of people in certain areas and orders to "handle" them by any means necessary if things were to get unruly in the bunkers. It wouldn't surprise me if some BS like what you speak of existed. I wasn't aware FEMA existed in 1962. |
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Could a Major General in the United States Air Force actually get away with unilaterally ordering a quarantine of a city like say Colorado Springs if, I don't know, some kind of emergency took place in say...the basement of Cheyenne Mountain? No, a local commander only has the authority to conduct immediate response to save life and limb, to stop immediate suffering and fire. Normally Defense Support to Civil Authority (DSCA) occurs following a request for assistance from the local authorities through the region Defense Coordination Office (DCO) to the Deputy Assistance Sec of Def for Homeland Security; who will forward to Sec Def for approval. Once approval is given the RFA is transformed by NorthCom (or PACCOM for HI) to a RFF to JFCOM who allocates forces to support . Those forces fall under the appropriate lead federal agency. Because of posse comitatus; the force allocated have to appropriate and non-leathal. Now to anything beyond DSCA the president must invoke the sedition act; which is used to restore civil authority. |
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I was told that during the Cuban Missile Crisis, FEMA issued certain people "a license to kill" so to speak. It was absoute authority over a group of people in certain areas and orders to "handle" them by any means necessary if things were to get unruly in the bunkers. It wouldn't surprise me if some BS like what you speak of existed. You were told wrong, FEMA didn't exist during the cuban missile crisis. FEMA was formed under Carter in 79. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I dunno... if a general walked into your local watering hole and started ordering people into cattle cars, how long before he gets his ass kicked? He'd better bring a pretty well-armed force. Will they do? http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4052/5119648051_27b56da2f9_z.jpg Props for the photo of SG-1 with Jonas Quinn. |
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I dunno... if a general walked into your local watering hole and started ordering people into cattle cars, how long before he gets his ass kicked? He'd better bring a pretty well-armed force. Will they do? http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4052/5119648051_27b56da2f9_z.jpg Yes. 
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If that MG was the Adjutant General of the State of Colorado and the governor ordered him to do so with NG Troops, then, theoretically, yes.
But it would be the governor's decision, not TAGs. Likewise, decisions affecting the civilian population must be made (by law) by politicians. Certain authorities can be delegated assuming certain legislative hurdles are over-come. But to answer your direct question. No. Anything outside the boundries of the military reservation is outside his scope of authority. |