Posted: 10/22/2010 12:59:20 PM EDT
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What about the tons of classified information passed to news networks by "senior placed officials" etc.
I think this is good, we need transparency in a war that has no checks and balances. Why don't we have Osama yet? We need to start holding the guys in charge accountable, and this is the first step. And I am glad that I live in a country that won't kill or "make disappear" this guy. |
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Want to take bets on how long it takes for the wikileaks founder to disappear? this comes up EVERY time they post something new, and he never does. I wish he would.  I wish he'd just post up something beneficial to the American people... like evidence of corruption inside of BATFE, DEA, et al. Stuff that will make some of those asshats go to jail for a very long time for the lying bullshit they do to justify their fucking miserable existence. A prime example would be all documentation relating to Albert Kwan or David Olofson or Waco, or Randy Weaver, or Friessen, |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Want to take bets on how long it takes for the wikileaks founder to disappear? this comes up EVERY time they post something new, and he never does. I wish he would. I wish he'd just post up something beneficial to the American people... like evidence of corruption inside of BATFE, DEA, et al. Stuff that will make some of those asshats go to jail for a very long time for the lying bullshit they do to justify their fucking miserable existence. A prime example would be all documentation relating to Albert Kwan or David Olofson or Waco, or Randy Weaver, or Friessen, In order to be posted something has to be leaked, and in order to be leaked it has to exist. |
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What about the tons of classified information passed to news networks by "senior placed officials" etc. I think this is good, we need transparency in a war that has no checks and balances. Why don't we have Osama yet? We need to start holding the guys in charge accountable, and this is the first step. And I am glad that I live in a country that won't kill or "make disappear" this guy.
sigh transparency=\= access to classified information. You do not have the right to intelligence data to satisfy your own curiosity. |
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Want to take bets on how long it takes for the wikileaks founder to disappear? this comes up EVERY time they post something new, and he never does. I wish he would. I wish he'd just post up something beneficial to the American people... like evidence of corruption inside of BATFE, DEA, et al. Stuff that will make some of those asshats go to jail for a very long time for the lying bullshit they do to justify their fucking miserable existence. A prime example would be all documentation relating to Albert Kwan or David Olofson or Waco, or Randy Weaver, or Friessen, In order to be posted something has to be leaked, and in order to be leaked it has to exist. Who is this guy???? |
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Quoted: no shit.. common sense isnt so commonQuoted: What about the tons of classified information passed to news networks by "senior placed officials" etc. I think this is good, we need transparency in a war that has no checks and balances. Why don't we have Osama yet? We need to start holding the guys in charge accountable, and this is the first step. And I am glad that I live in a country that won't kill or "make disappear" this guy. sigh transparency=\= access to classified information. You do not have the right to intelligence data to satisfy your own curiosity. |
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What about the tons of classified information passed to news networks by "senior placed officials" etc. I think this is good, we need transparency in a war that has no checks and balances. Why don't we have Osama yet? We need to start holding the guys in charge accountable, and this is the first step. And I am glad that I live in a country that won't kill or "make disappear" this guy. There is a process for getting classified info, it's called the Freedom of Information Act. Releasing shit willy nilly or leaking it harms us as a nation. |
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Want to take bets on how long it takes for the wikileaks founder to disappear? this comes up EVERY time they post something new, and he never does. I wish he would. I wish he'd just post up something beneficial to the American people... like evidence of corruption inside of BATFE, DEA, et al. Stuff that will make some of those asshats go to jail for a very long time for the lying bullshit they do to justify their fucking miserable existence. A prime example would be all documentation relating to Albert Kwan or David Olofson or Waco, or Randy Weaver, or Friessen, He's a leftist. He's only gonna post stuff that hurts us. |
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What about the tons of classified information passed to news networks by "senior placed officials" etc. I think this is good, we need transparency in a war that has no checks and balances. Why don't we have Osama yet? We need to start holding the guys in charge accountable, and this is the first step. And I am glad that I live in a country that won't kill or "make disappear" this guy. There is a process for getting classified info, it's called the Freedom of Information Act. Releasing shit willy nilly or leaking it harms us as a nation. Afgan informats may die over this. And as a result, others won't become informants. |
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What about the tons of classified information passed to news networks by "senior placed officials" etc. I think this is good, we need transparency in a war that has no checks and balances. Why don't we have Osama yet? We need to start holding the guys in charge accountable, and this is the first step. And I am glad that I live in a country that won't kill or "make disappear" this guy. There is a process for getting classified info, it's called the Freedom of Information Act. Releasing shit willy nilly or leaking it harms us as a nation. Afgan informats may die over this. And as a result, others won't become informants. Afghan informants are probably not going to worry about leaks concerning Iraq. On top of that, the DoD admitted recently that there's no evidence anybody that was supposedly endangered by the previous leaks has come to harm. |
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Want to take bets on how long it takes for the wikileaks founder to disappear? this comes up EVERY time they post something new, and he never does. He should have been dealt with BEFORE now. would, could, should, whatever. it won't happen. i'm not condoning or condemning what this guy does. i'm just saying that he will not "get disappeared." |
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Most of what he posts is garbage or has already been leaked, I have yet to see anything important to NS that was not previously known. Uh, the names of Afgans who work with us? According to the DoD, Wikileaks "has not revealed any sensitive intelligence sources or compromised methods by the disclosure" and "there has been no indication" that local nationals on our side have been harmed. Do you think that Gates' contradiction of those charges will get as much play here as the original media accusations? |
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What about the tons of classified information passed to news networks by "senior placed officials" etc. I think this is good, we need transparency in a war that has no checks and balances. Why don't we have Osama yet? We need to start holding the guys in charge accountable, and this is the first step. And I am glad that I live in a country that won't kill or "make disappear" this guy. There is a process for getting classified info, it's called the Freedom of Information Act. Releasing shit willy nilly or leaking it harms us as a nation. Afgan informats may die over this. And as a result, others won't become informants. Are you misreading my statement and thinking that I support leaking classified info? FOIA stuff is going to be denied or redacted if there is a valid national security interest. For example papers with the names of informants. |
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What about the tons of classified information passed to news networks by "senior placed officials" etc. I think this is good, we need transparency in a war that has no checks and balances. Why don't we have Osama yet? We need to start holding the guys in charge accountable, and this is the first step. And I am glad that I live in a country that won't kill or "make disappear" this guy. There is a process for getting classified info, it's called the Freedom of Information Act. Releasing shit willy nilly or leaking it harms us as a nation. Afgan informats may die over this. And as a result, others won't become informants. Are you misreading my statement and thinking that I support leaking classified info? FOIA stuff is going to be denied or redacted if there is a valid national security interest. For example papers with the names of informants. Not at all. This is the first time I posted agreeing with you. I was talking about the wikileaks that ratted out the Afgan informants, not FOIA requests. |
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Quoted: Quoted: These people need to come up missing. They just aren't around anymore, no bodies, no notes, no nothing. They went to the store and never came home. All of them. I'm damn tired of this shit.  This. http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp2/angrytek/incinerator.jpg Jesus Christ, some of you guys make me scared to be a member of this forum sometimes... |
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Afghan informants are probably not going to worry about leaks concerning Iraq. On top of that, the DoD admitted recently that there's no evidence anybody that was supposedly endangered by the previous leaks has come to harm. I was talking about the previous leaks, as an example. And frankly the DoD claims ring hollow; even if true it won't be by the time we leave A'stan, and the question is how many potential informants are now no longer potential informants. DoD has a reason to lie over this. |
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These people need to come up missing. They just aren't around anymore, no bodies, no notes, no nothing. They went to the store and never came home. All of them. I'm damn tired of this shit. This. http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp2/angrytek/incinerator.jpg Jesus Christ, some of you guys make me scared to be a member of this forum sometimes... Its ok, there is no going back now. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What about the tons of classified information passed to news networks by "senior placed officials" etc. I think this is good, we need transparency in a war that has no checks and balances. Why don't we have Osama yet? We need to start holding the guys in charge accountable, and this is the first step. And I am glad that I live in a country that won't kill or "make disappear" this guy. There is a process for getting classified info, it's called the Freedom of Information Act. Releasing shit willy nilly or leaking it harms us as a nation. Afgan informats may die over this. And as a result, others won't become informants. Are you misreading my statement and thinking that I support leaking classified info? FOIA stuff is going to be denied or redacted if there is a valid national security interest. For example papers with the names of informants. Not at all. This is the first time I posted agreeing with you. I was talking about the wikileaks that ratted out the Afgan informants, not FOIA requests. Which WikiLeak would that be? |
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Which WikiLeak would that be? http://gawker.com/5600676/taliban-using-wikileaks-afghanistan-leak-to-hunt-down-informants |
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Quoted: Quoted: What about the tons of classified information passed to news networks by "senior placed officials" etc. I think this is good, we need transparency in a war that has no checks and balances. Why don't we have Osama yet? We need to start holding the guys in charge accountable, and this is the first step. And I am glad that I live in a country that won't kill or "make disappear" this guy. There is a process for getting classified info, it's called the Freedom of Information Act. Releasing shit willy nilly or leaking it harms us as a nation. the FOIA only pertains to non-classified information. if something is top secret, classified, etc, they just tell you to go away. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Which WikiLeak would that be? http://gawker.com/5600676/taliban-using-wikileaks-afghanistan-leak-to-hunt-down-informants Thanks, I was unaware of that. DOD tradecraft sucks, but that is a different problem. |
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What about the tons of classified information passed to news networks by "senior placed officials" etc. I think this is good, we need transparency in a war that has no checks and balances. Why don't we have Osama yet? We need to start holding the guys in charge accountable, and this is the first step. And I am glad that I live in a country that won't kill or "make disappear" this guy. There is a process for getting classified info, it's called the Freedom of Information Act. Releasing shit willy nilly or leaking it harms us as a nation. the FOIA only pertains to non-classified information. if something is top secret, classified, etc, they just tell you to go away. I don't think that's correct, exactly. Consider a document classified due to several pages of info. With FOIA you can get the document, but the classified pages are removed. But you get the rest of the stuff you couldn't get before. |
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These people need to come up missing. They just aren't around anymore, no bodies, no notes, no nothing. They went to the store and never came home. All of them. I'm damn tired of this shit. This. http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp2/angrytek/incinerator.jpg Jesus Christ, some of you guys make me scared to be a member of this forum sometimes... Its ok, there is no going back now. i'm still willing to make a bet (memership renewal sound ok?) on reasonable terms btw. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What about the tons of classified information passed to news networks by "senior placed officials" etc. I think this is good, we need transparency in a war that has no checks and balances. Why don't we have Osama yet? We need to start holding the guys in charge accountable, and this is the first step. And I am glad that I live in a country that won't kill or "make disappear" this guy. There is a process for getting classified info, it's called the Freedom of Information Act. Releasing shit willy nilly or leaking it harms us as a nation. the FOIA only pertains to non-classified information. if something is top secret, classified, etc, they just tell you to go away. I don't think that's correct, exactly. Consider a document classified due to several pages of info. With FOIA you can get the document, but the classified pages are removed. But you get the rest of the stuff you couldn't get before. Correct, FOIA does not give access to classified info. They are redacted. |
