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10/2/2010 3:03:26 AM EDT
This will be a fun thread.

Anything you would need to store for a rainy day- be it weapons, supplies, money, etc....  Be creative, and list some outside the box ideas where you could store whatever items, where people wouldn't expect to look, and would have a very low chance of ever being discovered.

He is my idea..

http://www.westbridgfordhistory.org/gallery/large/Wilford%20Hill%20Cemetery,%20Birkin%20mausoleum%202006.jpg
Edit- I know this specific mausoleum has see through doors.  There are many others with solid metal doors with either small stained glass windows, or none at all.  Obviously, that would be needed in making sure the cache is never discovered.

You probably have a cemetery around you that has these things, these small walk in mausoleums, where the family can unlock the door, and go inside to pray and mourn.  The thought came across my mind, why not buy your own plot, and have your very own hidden SHTF storage shed?  Even if it is 3 feet wide, 6 feet deep, and 6 feet tall, that is 103 cubic feet of storage, which is plenty of space.  Let's face it....if anything ever happens in this country, I am sure there aren't going to be droves of people running to the graveyard, to loot the place!  This could be used as short term storage, but obviously would be PERFECT for long term/indefinite storage of items.   And just so we are clear...I am not at ALL suggesting to break in to other people's mausoleums, because that is illegal and very disrespectful.

Anyway, that was my idea, maybe some of you guys can implement it.  Let's keep this thread going.
10/2/2010 3:17:29 AM EDT
[#1]
It might be a tad suspicious transporting any amount of goods into it. I like the idea and it is out of the box thinking.
10/2/2010 3:31:05 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
It might be a tad suspicious transporting any amount of goods into it. I like the idea and it is out of the box thinking.


Of course.  I have family buried in one of the largest cemeteries in the Chicago area, and even going there during the afternoon, people are really spread out.  As in, one party of people per 2-300 foot space, and they sure as hell aren't going there to watch other people or look around.  Early morning, late evening....if someone is serious about not being obvious doing this, they would just scope out the area, see when the most (and least) amount of visitors are there, then go during that time.  I would be surprised if anyone ever had problems doing this, just by simply using common sense here.

Another thing I forgot to mention in my post, try to either get a mausoleum near the outside of the property (assuming the place is surrounded by trees), or have the door face the outside of the property, so no one in the place could see you coming or going to it with an armful of stuff. It isn't absolutely necessary, but it will remove some stress of anyone seeing you.

Play the part, dress up, strategically place the mausoleum, go when there is the least amount of people, that is really all there is to it.
10/2/2010 3:37:17 AM EDT
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10/2/2010 3:39:54 AM EDT
[#4]





Dammit, I was going to post that.



 
10/2/2010 4:01:34 AM EDT
[#5]


Ha, I didn't even think about that.  Maybe that was what subliminally triggered me to get this idea.
10/2/2010 4:02:14 AM EDT
[#6]


EXACTLY what I thought of.
10/2/2010 4:22:31 AM EDT
[#7]
inside septic tank
under doghouse
10/2/2010 4:34:56 AM EDT
[#8]
Tucked deep inside rolls of flab.

10/2/2010 4:48:45 AM EDT
[#9]
If you arent looking at ease of accessibility (as in, you are willing to break something or tear down a wall) there are litterally countless place to hide things in a house. You can build things into walls, under floors, etc.

If you need to be able to access things easily there are still lots of ways to accomplish this for small items.....rolls of currency, gold coins, medications, etc can be stashed pretty easily.

Big items like rifles and tools take some creativity...never tried something like this but I'm guessing you could vacuum seal a rifle in plastic in put it into the duct work
10/2/2010 4:50:44 AM EDT
[#10]
Sounds very expensive.
10/2/2010 4:56:40 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Sounds very expensive.


Could always do a group buy with a few trusted associates, split the cost 3-5 ways.
10/2/2010 4:59:55 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
inside septic tank
under doghouse



All good.

This is an old Special Forces Caching manual, but it goes over the basics of how to choose a caching location:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3036556/Special-Forces-Caching-Techniques-TC-3129A

http://www.slideshare.net/mrhempAThotmailDOTcom/special-forces-caching-techniques-tc-31-29-a

Just off the top of my head:

1)  You want to have good access to the site even if the area is occupied.  You don't want to bury a cache near a bridge only to have a gov't/enemy force occupy the bridge.  

2)  It's preferable if you can access the site using more than one route.  

3)  You want a spot that is not going to be developed in the future, so the edge of a state park, etc. is a good place.

2)  You need good permanent landmarks to back up GPS coordinates.  It's great to bury something in a desert but you may have a hard time finding your cache unless there are a lot of rock formations near it.

Easy access to PVC tubing, vacuum sealing and vapor phase inhibitor (VPI) paper have made the actual cache easy to prepare so location location location is what you need to focus on.
10/2/2010 5:01:08 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Tucked deep inside rolls of flab.



When I was a med student, there was a morbidly obese woman who had half of a ham sandwich hidden under one of her breasts.
10/2/2010 5:03:08 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Tucked deep inside rolls of flab.



When I was a med student, there was a morbidly obese woman who had half of a ham sandwich hidden under one of her breasts.


See? It's perfect.


.......and portable!
10/2/2010 5:04:33 AM EDT
[#15]
I dont know about that what about grave robes looking for jewelry.


10/2/2010 5:09:24 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I dont know about that what about grave robes looking for jewelry.


1) Don't pick a cemetery where the wealthy are buried?
2) You could also have the door rigged with a sensor, so if it is ever opened, you could receive a phone call, or even a text message, alerting you of it.  And no, I am not pulling this out of my ass.  It can be done if you know what you are doing.  It doesn't even have to be the door opening, it could even detect impacts on the door (this is why you get a strong door), so you have the time to get there and catch them red handed.
10/2/2010 5:31:02 AM EDT
[#17]
you know,

when the dead walk the earth, Gonna be a real problem gettin to your stash...
10/2/2010 5:38:25 AM EDT
[#18]
I've got plenty of spots up here .
10/2/2010 5:40:04 AM EDT
[#19]
Trap







 It's one
10/2/2010 5:41:50 AM EDT
[#20]
I hide all of my guns inside larger guns.
10/2/2010 5:48:20 AM EDT
[#21]
Dan?  Is this you?
10/2/2010 5:48:57 AM EDT
[#22]
But what about all the potential zombies that would be surrounding your cache?
 



ETA: dang, douglasmorris99 beat me to it






Quoted:

you know,



when the dead walk the earth, Gonna be a real problem gettin to your stash...



10/2/2010 5:53:40 AM EDT
[#23]
Well....

1) The dead will be dead while you are actually stashing the items away, which eliminates the problem of them knowing about it. and
2) Won't they be outside of the cemetery, trying to eat other people?
3) Hopefully my dead zombie family members love me enough not to snitch and tell the other zombies.

Check and mate.
10/2/2010 6:06:38 AM EDT
[#24]
I can neither confirm or deny that I had two G17s hidden inside a late '80's style boom box that had the guts ripped out, when I lived in the barracks.
I absolutely promise that there was no G27 hidden inside a 5 1/4" "empty" bay on my desktop in the same barracks, behind a spring-loaded door.  

...because that would be against the rules.  25 year old servicemembers aren't allowed to have weapons in the barracks.  We're not responsible enough.

So I'd never do that.

10/2/2010 6:22:15 AM EDT
[#25]
First, I think hiding something somewhere that you don't own is big mistake.  It will be found, by  a hunter, a snoop, a caretaker, grandpa with a metal detector, kids, bums etc.

Second, caching is not really a good idea anyway. You are likely to forget, what and where you put it.   I recently went up to my hunting cabin and found a case of 22 ammo I had in my storage shed since about 1994. We used to do a lot of 22 shooting when the kids were younger. That case got taken up, put in the shed, moved around until it got stuck up in the rafters and forgotten.

10/2/2010 7:09:11 AM EDT
[#26]
I have an old water well on my property that I have thought about using as a cache.
10/2/2010 7:48:34 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
First, I think hiding something somewhere that you don't own is big mistake.  It will be found, by  a hunter, a snoop, a caretaker, grandpa with a metal detector, kids, bums etc.

Second, caching is not really a good idea anyway. You are likely to forget, what and where you put it.   I recently went up to my hunting cabin and found a case of 22 ammo I had in my storage shed since about 1994. We used to do a lot of 22 shooting when the kids were younger. That case got taken up, put in the shed, moved around until it got stuck up in the rafters and forgotten.



With all due respect, I would like to think not everyone is that respectful, especially involving potentially life saving equipment....
10/4/2010 3:15:56 AM EDT
[#28]
Shameless self bump.

Maybe I should move this to another non-general forum so this can continue without dying..
10/4/2010 4:27:03 AM EDT
[#29]
Paging Dan Baum...
10/4/2010 2:16:53 PM EDT
[#30]
Seriously, I've read of people here caching things in their own house.   A houses internal walls are pretty empty, and even if they have insulation it's easy enough to pull out.  Take spare wood and nail in shelves every foot or two, fill shelves, then re-sheet rock.   Of course, you wouldn't have quick access to it, but it'd stay dry, and be very well hidden from burglars and looters.  And I've read people here even discussing storing a gun behind sheetrock, and just punching through the sheetrock to get the gun in a hurry if needed.

10/4/2010 6:47:58 PM EDT
[#31]
Things other people have done:

o  Under the woodpile.

o  Inside a second water heater that appears to be hooked up but is bogus.

o  Under pavers in the garden path.

o  Under the manure pile.


It is tougher to find substantial space inside the house nowadays. Space accountability is a well known concept now, so false walls aren't as good as they were.