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9/19/2010 2:53:55 AM EDT
That last line in this rant could apply today *cough* socialism *cough*





9/19/2010 3:35:33 AM EDT
[#1]
A cheaper cut.................
9/19/2010 4:35:05 AM EDT
[#2]
A cheaper cut lol
9/19/2010 4:37:17 AM EDT
[#3]
9/19/2010 4:39:06 AM EDT
[#4]
ahh...back in the days when 5.50 was a lot of money.
9/19/2010 7:49:41 AM EDT
[#5]
The influx of massive amounts of white women into the work force has been as disastrous for the wages and social position of white men and their families as welfare was for black men and their family structure.

The next assault on the middle class was the influx of cheap illegal alien workers.

The welfare check replaced the working, responsible father as the head of the family in the urban black community.

Bringing in women and illegal aliens into the work force lowered wages for the working class. (Example: meat cutting in the Hormel plants used to pay over $20 an hour. After a few years of importing illegal labor, wages dropped to $7 an hour. )  In some areas, native born plumbers/electricians/carpenters are only needed to "sign off" the work of  and supervise crews of up to 20 illegal alien, unlicensed tradesmen.

In addition, when families went from one wage earner to two wage earners, they were hit by a large tax bite. The "marriage penalty" treats the income of a police lieutenant married to a chief nurse like the income of rich single interior decorator by putting them all into the same tax bracket. This is compounded it either the police officer or nurse work overtime, or if either of them has a second job like being in the National Guard.

The way to avoid this is to "shack up," and just live together, further eroding the family.

And it hasn't been a great benefit for women either.   When they demanded "equal wages" in the 1970's, they never dreamed that it would mean lower wages for everybody in the 1980's. A generation later, women, realizing that the life of men wasn't all it was cracked up to be, decided that the life of Donna Reed was looking pretty good. But with the depressed wages, where was the man that could afford to keep her in pearls and in the wonderful house in the suburbs?  And liberated single motherhood?  Like Murphy Brown?  Even the writers of that show did not know what to do with the kid after it was born?  Basically, it was raised by the house painter.....


9/19/2010 12:56:15 PM EDT
[#6]
Greatest sit-com of all time.
9/19/2010 1:11:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Carol O'Conner is/was a raging libtard Comie Socialist...

I don't get the fascination with Archie Bunker... he is a stereotype character to mock/ridicule non-liberals....
9/19/2010 1:17:41 PM EDT
[#8]
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The influx of massive amounts of white women into the work force has been as disastrous for the wages and social position of white men and their families as welfare was for black men and their family structure.

The next assault on the middle class was the influx of cheap illegal alien workers.

The welfare check replaced the working, responsible father as the head of the family in the urban black community.

Bringing in women and illegal aliens into the work force lowered wages for the working class. (Example: meat cutting in the Hormel plants used to pay over $20 an hour. After a few years of importing illegal labor, wages dropped to $7 an hour. )  In some areas, native born plumbers/electricians/carpenters are only needed to "sign off" the work of  and supervise crews of up to 20 illegal alien, unlicensed tradesmen.

In addition, when families went from one wage earner to two wage earners, they were hit by a large tax bite. The "marriage penalty" treats the income of a police lieutenant married to a chief nurse like the income of rich single interior decorator by putting them all into the same tax bracket. This is compounded it either the police officer or nurse work overtime, or if either of them has a second job like being in the National Guard.

The way to avoid this is to "shack up," and just live together, further eroding the family.

And it hasn't been a great benefit for women either.   When they demanded "equal wages" in the 1970's, they never dreamed that it would mean lower wages for everybody in the 1980's. A generation later, women, realizing that the life of men wasn't all it was cracked up to be, decided that the life of Donna Reed was looking pretty good. But with the depressed wages, where was the man that could afford to keep her in pearls and in the wonderful house in the suburbs?  And liberated single motherhood?  Like Murphy Brown?  Even the writers of that show did not know what to do with the kid after it was born?  Basically, it was raised by the house painter.....




All part of the long-range goals and activities of the communist movement. You have to shrink the middle class and destroy the cultural foundations of the target country. When you realize that "liberation" is codeword for when communists take over a movement, it all falls together.
Womens' liberation.
Gay liberation.
Black liberation etc.

9/19/2010 1:23:28 PM EDT
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Greatest sit-com of all time.


+1



 
9/19/2010 1:27:46 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Carol O'Conner is/was a raging libtard Comie Socialist...

I don't get the fascination with Archie Bunker... he is a stereotype character to mock/ridicule non-liberals....


9/19/2010 1:31:34 PM EDT
[#11]



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The influx of massive amounts of white women into the work force has been as disastrous for the wages and social position of white men and their families as welfare was for black men and their family structure.



Yep, it's tough on my buddy, who runs his own small business for fun while his wife rakes in the dough.



The influx of women into the workforce isn't a communist plot. It was inevitable with the coming of the Age of Technology.



 
9/19/2010 1:33:18 PM EDT
[#12]
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Carol O'Conner is/was a raging libtard Comie Socialist...

I don't get the fascination with Archie Bunker... he is a stereotype character to mock/ridicule non-liberals....


This. He was there as a fall guy to depict conservatism as ignorant, archaic, and readily defeated by thinking people. It was propaganda disguised as entertainment.

9/19/2010 1:33:38 PM EDT
[#13]
What I would have loved to hear Archie say, when the woman complained of only making $5.50 an hour (inflation adjusted would be between $17 and $28 depending on the year of filming), is to ask "Well, they ain't holding you down, are they?"




9/19/2010 1:44:04 PM EDT
[#14]
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The influx of massive amounts of white women into the work force has been as disastrous for the wages and social position of white men and their families as welfare was for black men and their family structure.

Yep, it's tough on my buddy, who runs his own small business for fun while his wife rakes in the dough.

The influx of women into the workforce isn't a communist plot. It was inevitable with the coming of the Age of Technology.
 


No. It was a marketing ploy to generate a larger consumer base by making women feel empowered to decide over expendable and discretionary income.

Remember the risque stunts with barely clad women startling the world by smoking in public? Suddenly there was a 'smoking etiquette'. Women can only smoke outdoors at night. It's only proper for a woman to smoke while sitting down. It's uncouth for a woman to light her own cigarettes. Etc. All of it was arranged by tobacco company funded ad agencies looking to double the base of tobacco consumers by enticing women into smoking and removing the societal moors that prevented it.

Nobody gave a fuck about the women, their treatment, or their welfare. That was just fodder for the stupid that gave women the false notion that they were overcoming subjugation .... by becoming addicted to cigarettes.


'Inevitable with the coming of the age of technology' sounds new agey, libtarded, and ghey.
9/19/2010 1:44:33 PM EDT
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Carol O'Conner is/was a raging libtard Comie Socialist...



I don't get the fascination with Archie Bunker... he is a stereotype character to mock/ridicule non-liberals....




This. He was there as a fall guy to depict conservatism as ignorant, archaic, and readily defeated by thinking people. It was propaganda disguised as entertainment.





/thread

 
9/19/2010 1:46:42 PM EDT
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'Inevitable with the coming of the age of technology' sounds new agey, libtarded, and ghey.






 
9/19/2010 2:05:40 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Carol O'Conner is/was a raging libtard Comie Socialist...

I don't get the fascination with Archie Bunker... he is a stereotype character to mock/ridicule non-liberals....


This. He was there as a fall guy to depict conservatism as ignorant, archaic, and readily defeated by thinking people. It was propaganda disguised as entertainment.



True.

But - that doesn't mean that Archie's "viewpoints" weren't valid.
9/19/2010 2:43:43 PM EDT
[#18]



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Carol O'Conner is/was a raging libtard Comie Socialist...



I don't get the fascination with Archie Bunker... he is a stereotype character to mock/ridicule non-liberals....


It annoyed the hell out of me at the time, even as a young man I despised most of the crap Meathead espoused.  However, looking at now I love it for no other reason than Sweet Irony.  Archie has been vindicated.  The stupidest conservative ever was in reality smarter than the smartest of liberals.



 
9/19/2010 4:51:48 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Carol O'Conner is/was a raging libtard Comie Socialist...

I don't get the fascination with Archie Bunker... he is a stereotype character to mock/ridicule non-liberals....


This. He was there as a fall guy to depict conservatism as ignorant, archaic, and readily defeated by thinking people. It was propaganda disguised as entertainment.



True.

But - that doesn't mean that Archie's "viewpoints" weren't valid.


Case in point at the end of the above clip: "what's the point of a man working hard all his life, trying to get some place, if all he is going to do is wind up equal?"  

Yeah, they were mocking a conservative idea, and in their view it probably made Archie appear selfish and mean to dare to put his individual desires above the "equality" of the collective, but in that statement the writers (probably inadvertently) hit on the fundamental reason why socialism/communism does not work.  






9/19/2010 5:00:02 PM EDT
[#20]
Man, I miss that show. They don't make them like that anymore.

I remember watching that show with my parents way the hell back in the day.
9/20/2010 5:47:50 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
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Quoted:
Quoted:
Carol O'Conner is/was a raging libtard Comie Socialist...

I don't get the fascination with Archie Bunker... he is a stereotype character to mock/ridicule non-liberals....


This. He was there as a fall guy to depict conservatism as ignorant, archaic, and readily defeated by thinking people. It was propaganda disguised as entertainment.



True.

But - that doesn't mean that Archie's "viewpoints" weren't valid.


Case in point at the end of the above clip: "what's the point of a man working hard all his life, trying to get some place, if all he is going to do is wind up equal?"  

Yeah, they were mocking a conservative idea, and in their view it probably made Archie appear selfish and mean to dare to put his individual desires above the "equality" of the collective, but in that statement the writers (probably inadvertently) hit on the fundamental reason why socialism/communism does not work.  


You miss the point of propaganda. Sure, an objective and thinking person can find gems. That's what lends it faux legitimacy. Pretend that you're just examining the issues. Thinking people are largely immune from base propaganda. They are dealt with by getting them mired in academic bickering over inconsequential details. This prevents them from achieving and exercising any real political power. The intelligentsia are categorically side lined.

Propaganda is targeted at the weak minded, passive, unscrutinizing people that make up the bulk of the population. It is repetitive programming and does not have to make proper sense. They are building responses into people. Whenever 'Crotchety Archie' expresses a conservative view he does so from a reeling and defensive position. EVERYONE AROUND HIM gasps, shakes their head ashamedly, poo-poos, and dithers about. That's the programming. The reflexive unthinking rejection of any positive assertiveness by a conservative white male.

9/20/2010 6:07:39 AM EDT
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Carol O'Conner is/was a raging libtard Comie Socialist...

I don't get the fascination with Archie Bunker... he is a stereotype character to mock/ridicule non-liberals....


This. He was there as a fall guy to depict conservatism as ignorant, archaic, and readily defeated by thinking people. It was propaganda disguised as entertainment.



True.

But - that doesn't mean that Archie's "viewpoints" weren't valid.


Case in point at the end of the above clip: "what's the point of a man working hard all his life, trying to get some place, if all he is going to do is wind up equal?"  

Yeah, they were mocking a conservative idea, and in their view it probably made Archie appear selfish and mean to dare to put his individual desires above the "equality" of the collective, but in that statement the writers (probably inadvertently) hit on the fundamental reason why socialism/communism does not work.  


You miss the point of propaganda. Sure, an objective and thinking person can find gems. That's what lends it faux legitimacy. Pretend that you're just examining the issues. Thinking people are largely immune from base propaganda. They are dealt with by getting them mired in academic bickering over inconsequential details. This prevents them from achieving and exercising any real political power. The intelligentsia are categorically side lined.

Propaganda is targeted at the weak minded, passive, unscrutinizing people that make up the bulk of the population. It is repetitive programming and does not have to make proper sense. They are building responses into people. Whenever 'Crotchety Archie' expresses a conservative view he does so from a reeling and defensive position. EVERYONE AROUND HIM gasps, shakes their head ashamedly, poo-poos, and dithers about. That's the programming. The reflexive unthinking rejection of any positive assertiveness by a conservative white male.



I understand that. Just making the point that despite the propagandising nature of the show, Archie's point of view, in many cases, is still valid. Admittedly, you often have to look beyond the surface though.  

9/20/2010 6:08:42 AM EDT
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Greatest sit-com of all time.

+1