Posted: 8/16/2010 4:22:31 PM EDT
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We have a Panasonic 1000W home theater in a box setup. The speakers sound really good and the subwoolfer is amazing.
Now the problem is that it doesnt have any 5.1 inputs, only red and white inputs, I can get a 550W 5.1 Pioneer HDMI reciever for free, which retials for $299. Now the question is: The subwoolfer from the Panasonic system has a proprietary cable cable which goes into the crappy panasonic reciever and the other 5 speakers plug into the back of the subwoolfer. Is there a way I can use the subwoolfer with the Pioneer reciever. Maybe I can cut apart the poprietary cable and find the wires that go to the subwoolfer. Also the subwoolfer is a powered sub, so how could it get power without the Panasonic reciever? Thanks. |
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I'm not an audio file but the speakers honestly sound much better then my friends bose 5.1 system. I have another HTiB which sucks, but this one sounds amazing. I know the speakers will work since they have normal speaker wire, but the subwoolfer is the only thing with a proprietary connection.
The subwoolfer cannot be turned up past 2/4 because it shakes the house. I'm looking to get 5.1 surround out of my speakers, since there is no 5.1 input when I watch blu-ray, HD DVD and xbox 360 im only hearing dolby pro logic, not true 5.1 surround. |
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I think the amp is in the sub, I think the power comes from the reciever though.
So you guys are saying whether or not the speakers are good or not, they might not be compatible? I have the option to one thing to recieve as a "prize", the pioneer reciever is the only thing I would actually use. |
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I got an Onkyo
http://www.d2delectronics.com/Onkyo-HT-S3300-51-Channel/Home-Audio-Video/Receivers-Amps-HTIB/Home-Theater-In-A-Box-p9083495.html A couple months ago, it has standard components with standard connectors. It won't blow you out of the room but it'll get loud enough to piss off the neighbors in my condo and it's better than my old stuff. |
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I think the amp is in the sub, I think the power comes from the reciever though. So you guys are saying whether or not the speakers are good or not, they might not be compatible? I have the option to one thing to recieve as a "prize", the pioneer reciever is the only thing I would actually use. The speakers should say on the back if they are 4 or 8 ohm. ETA: does the sub plug into the wall? Amp won't be in the sub if it doesn't. If there is no powered amp in the sub, you have a whole new headache that will make it not worth it for your application, imo. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I'm willing to put money on the fact that your HTIB isnt actually 1000 watts. The fact that it sounds better than a bose system isnt surprising either. If you can pick up a proper receiver do it. Proper inputs and compression decryption makes a world of difference. Standard RCA plugs cant do anything higher than ProLogic (analog 4.1). The difference in sound when you jump to SPDIF usually astounds people, much less going to one of the HD audio formats with proper gear. I dont know what the other receiver supports but its probably a good start over a propriatary HTIB setup.
Just another thought. Now that the HDMI 1.4 format (added support for 3D formats) is finalized a lot of places are or will be getting rid of their 1.3a gear cheaply. |
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I think the amp is in the sub, I think the power comes from the reciever though. So you guys are saying whether or not the speakers are good or not, they might not be compatible? I have the option to one thing to recieve as a "prize", the pioneer reciever is the only thing I would actually use. Worst case scenario you would have to buy a new sub. can you post pics of the rear of your sub? |
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Yep the sub hosts the amp for the whole system.
Im going to go ahead and tell you, it will be very hard to find a quality sub for $100. There are lots of options out there, but i wouldnt go less than $250 on a sub. Anything less will not get you decent lows. Ill look around and see what i can find by way of the internet. There are some good deals to be had online. Here is a start http://store.audioholics.com/product/2807/66329/velodyne-vx-11-subwoofer |
| Since the power cable is seperate from the cable that sends the audio from the reciever, wouldnt it be possible to find the wires in the proprietary connector that are for the sub's audio and use that with the new recier since its powered from an outlet and not the reciever? |
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Since the power cable is seperate from the cable that sends the audio from the reciever, wouldnt it be possible to find the wires in the proprietary connector that are for the sub's audio and use that with the new recier since its powered from an outlet and not the reciever? Yes, it is possible.You would connect the + and - to the sub out put on the new reciever. Then connect all of the surrounds to the respected terminal on the back of the reciever. Good luck with this and let us know how it turns out. |
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If that Pioneer is designed to push an 8 Ohm load and he hooks up 4 Ohm speakers to it, doesn't he risk burning up the amp? Or do externally powered speakers make that not an issue? The lower the Ohm load, the harder it is on the Amp ETA Most modern amps are rated for 4 Ohm loads. ETA My Yamaha has a switch on the back to change from 8 to 4 Ohm loads. |
| Mmmmm.... I started out with a setup like yours. I wanted to do the same thing you are trying to do but could never get it to sound right. I ended up selling it all and bought a pioneer receiver, klipsch quintet III speakers and I bought a big sub from www.thespeakercompany.com. I'm much happier now |
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Mmmmm.... I started out with a setup like yours. I wanted to do the same thing you are trying to do but could never get it to sound right. I ended up selling it all and bought a pioneer receiver, klipsch quintet III speakers and I bought a big sub from www.thespeakercompany.com. I'm much happier now ORLY???? |
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Mmmmm.... I started out with a setup like yours. I wanted to do the same thing you are trying to do but could never get it to sound right. I ended up selling it all and bought a pioneer receiver, klipsch quintet III speakers and I bought a big sub from www.thespeakercompany.com. I'm much happier now ORLY???? Some wise person helped me out but I can't remember who... 
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So why exactly wont the speakers sound right, I dont understand that part, what if I try to findr a newer Panasonic HTiB reciever only with the same plug with a digital in There comes a time for almost all of us when we realize that what we want to do requires leaving the HTiB stuff behind. Maybe that time for you is now, and maybe its down the road, but when you want to add newer/better parts to improve what you have its really hard to include HTiBs in that plan. |
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maybe you could actualy plug the sub into the back of the new reciever that way it would turn on when the new unit is powered on.
or maybe the sub senses an audio signal to switch the power on.. my klh sub is that way, it gets pluged into the wall but wont run untill it gets an audio signal. you would have to know how it actually turns on..well either way if you would do it as i described below it shoud work. the lower wire connection would have your audio inputs from the reciever, you could cut the wire leaving yourself a big enough tail to work with from the old reciever and figuer out all the wires ,rights lefts fronts and backs and maybe center channel and you should have a pair for inputs for the sub. the pair for the sub you could wire in a female rca jack and if your new reciever has a sub output run a male rca cord between them. then just use the outputs from your new reciever to go to the speakers |