[ARCHIVED THREAD] - mormons help please! (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/16/2010 6:54:49 AM EDT
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What's the church's stance on sexuality especially !4 marriage Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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http://www.mormon.org/faq Basically, sex is only sanctified within the bonds of marriage. Outside of marriage –– in any form –– it is considered to be a sin. |
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In the LDS Church sex is intended to take place within the bounds of marriage. That means no sex before marriage, and after marriage that means sex only with the person to whom you are lawfully married. Homosexual sex is off limits. By the teaching of Joseph Smith or Jesus Christ? Was this on the golden plates that Smith found or something that Angel Moroni said also? |
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In the LDS Church sex is intended to take place within the bounds of marriage. That means no sex before marriage, and after marriage that means sex only with the person to whom you are lawfully married. Homosexual sex is off limits. By the teaching of Joseph Smith or Jesus Christ? Was this on the golden plates that Smith found or something that Angel Moroni said also? 
You disagree with it? Have you read the Old and New Testaments? Or are you just blatantly trolling? |
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In the LDS Church sex is intended to take place within the bounds of marriage. That means no sex before marriage, and after marriage that means sex only with the person to whom you are lawfully married. Homosexual sex is off limits. By the teaching of Joseph Smith or Jesus Christ? Was this on the golden plates that Smith found or something that Angel Moroni said also?
You disagree with it? Have you read the Old and New Testaments? Or are you just blatantly trolling? Don't disagree with it nor do I agree with if for I'm not a Mormon. I know a small amount on the Mormon faith and my neighbors are Mormons so I'm always looking to gain more knowledge of different faiths. Jesus Christ never said anything about homosexuality that any of us know about. Do I seriously sound like I'm trolling? I have read the new and the old testament many times also and sorry but most of the new testament is not considered by most to be the "word of God" unless you are talking about the gospels. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In the LDS Church sex is intended to take place within the bounds of marriage. That means no sex before marriage, and after marriage that means sex only with the person to whom you are lawfully married. Homosexual sex is off limits. By the teaching of Joseph Smith or Jesus Christ? Was this on the golden plates that Smith found or something that Angel Moroni said also? You disagree with it? Have you read the Old and New Testaments? Or are you just blatantly trolling? Don't disagree with it nor do I agree with if for I'm not a Mormon. I know a small amount on the Mormon faith and my neighbors are Mormons so I'm always looking to gain more knowledge of different faiths. Jesus Christ never said anything about homosexuality that any of us know about. Do I seriously sound like I'm trolling? I have read the new and the old testament many times also and sorry but most of the new testament is not considered by most to be the "word of God" unless you are talking about the gospels. True, Jesus didn't explicity say homosexuality was an abomination (well, actually He did, but before His earthly ministry –– see Leviticus 20:13). However, He was an Orthodox Jew, one who was recognized even by his enemies as a Rabbi of great power and authority. The Pharisees and Sadducees, who both did their best to discredit Him, never once even intimated that He had personally indulged in or condoned any form of sexual immoralty. Since they were eagerly searching for any type of misdeed to charge Him with it strains credulity to assert that they would have overlooked approval of homosexuality on His part, especially since the Law of Moses provided that gays should be stoned. |
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In the LDS Church sex is intended to take place within the bounds of marriage. That means no sex before marriage, and after marriage that means sex only with the person to whom you are lawfully married. Homosexual sex is off limits. By the teaching of Joseph Smith or Jesus Christ? Was this on the golden plates that Smith found or something that Angel Moroni said also?
You disagree with it? Have you read the Old and New Testaments? Or are you just blatantly trolling? Don't disagree with it nor do I agree with if for I'm not a Mormon. I know a small amount on the Mormon faith and my neighbors are Mormons so I'm always looking to gain more knowledge of different faiths. Jesus Christ never said anything about homosexuality that any of us know about. Do I seriously sound like I'm trolling? I have read the new and the old testament many times also and sorry but most of the new testament is not considered by most to be the "word of God" unless you are talking about the gospels. Ah, so you're a religion a la carte type of person, even with the Bible. As GarandM1 has pointed out, homosexuality was an abomination in the Bible, why do you suppose that would change for any LDS member? |
Once you've completed your endowment cerimony and receive Temple garments (daily underwear) they will serve as a reminder of your various vows/commitments to live chaste life.So the underwear will keep you pure. Garments will also protect you from fire .carwrecks and natural disasters.
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Pre-marital sex is fine, you are good to go. Just make sure you marry who ever you sleep with though. That seems to be the way the religious people I know do it. Its a good thing this topic was about mormons and their beliefs and not about the "religious people" that you know. |
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In the LDS Church sex is intended to take place within the bounds of marriage. That means no sex before marriage, and after marriage that means sex only with the person to whom you are lawfully married. Homosexual sex is off limits. By the teaching of Joseph Smith or Jesus Christ? Was this on the golden plates that Smith found or something that Angel Moroni said also?
You disagree with it? Have you read the Old and New Testaments? Or are you just blatantly trolling? Gee, what do you think? |
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The stance of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints on sexuality, or on sexual relations?
Shane333 is active and I am not, so his input is probably more accurate, but in any case, the Church condemns sexual acts outside the bonds of marriage (This includes oral sex, anal sex, hand jobs, groping). If you do commit these acts, you'll generally be put on probation for however long your Bishop deems necessary; your Preisthood suspended from use, no capacity in Church callings, no Mission eligibility; cannot take sacrament, etc. One of my best friends had his mission date pushed back 3 years because he fooled around with a girl for a long while. He just left July 27th to Garland, Texas. 
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Pre-marital sex is fine, you are good to go. Just make sure you marry who ever you sleep with though. That seems to be the way the religious people I know do it. This is a cop out. I am friends with a few couples that did this. They do need to wait before they can be sealed in the Temple, though. They can be married civilly, and the Church acknowledges their civil union, however they're not eligible for Temple marriage until they've proven they're ready for it to their Bishop. |
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Once you've completed your endowment cerimony and receive Temple garments (daily underwear) they will serve as a reminder of your various vows/commitments to live chaste life.So the underwear will keep you pure. Yes and no. You are the one who makes the decision to remain pure, the garments just remind you of your covenants. Garments will also/are also credited with protecting the wearer from fire .carwrecks and natural disasters .
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Once you've completed your endowment cerimony and receive Temple garments (daily underwear) they will serve as a reminder of your various vows/commitments to live chaste life.So the underwear will keep you pure. Yes and no. You are the one who makes the decision to remain pure, the garments just remind you of your covenants. Garments will also/are also credited with protecting the wearer from fire .carwrecks and natural disasters .
Stranger things have happened. Garments are a sign of a covenant made. They're not enchanted, and are made out of a pretty thin cotton, and from an underwear standpoint are pretty much unremarkable and not considerably different in appearance than your basic Fruit of the Loom boxer briefs and tee-shirts. |
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Sex before marriage (and marriage can only be between a man and a woman) is a no-go. "sex" includes: vaginal intercourse, anal, oral, hand jobs (including masturbation), groping, rubbing, touching... or any other possible contact with genitalia and / or women's breasts other than for medical stuff.
If a guy and a girl do anal sex together, and they repent, they will be forgiven and welcomed and fellowshipped. If they refuse to repent, they will both be kicked out of the church. If 2 guys do anal sex together, and they repent, they will be forgiven and welcomed and fellowshipped. If they refuse to repent, they will both be kicked out of the church. You see, the penalty for "gay sex" is exactly the same... because any sexual contact outside of marriage is a sin. |
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Sex before marriage (and marriage can only be between a man and a woman) is a no-go. "sex" includes: vaginal intercourse, anal, oral, hand jobs (including masturbation), groping, rubbing, touching... or any other possible contact with genitalia and / or women's breasts other than for medical stuff. If a guy and a girl do anal sex together, and they repent, they will be forgiven and welcomed and fellowshipped. If they refuse to repent, they will both be kicked out of the church. If 2 guys do anal sex together, and they repent, they will be forgiven and welcomed and fellowshipped. If they refuse to repent, they will both be kicked out of the church. You see, the penalty for "gay sex" is exactly the same... because any sexual contact outside of marriage is a sin. Not so cut and try. There's not a matrix that says "This equals that." |
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Once you've completed your endowment cerimony and receive Temple garments (daily underwear) they will serve as a reminder of your various vows/commitments to live chaste life.So the underwear will keep you pure. Yes and no. You are the one who makes the decision to remain pure, the garments just remind you of your covenants. Garments will also/are also credited with protecting the wearer from fire .carwrecks and natural disasters .
Stranger things have happened. Garments are a sign of a covenant made. They're not enchanted, and are made out of a pretty thin cotton, and from an underwear standpoint are pretty much unremarkable and not considerably different in appearance than your basic Fruit of the Loom boxer briefs and tee-shirts. Mormon cops (wearing garments) have been killed in the line of duty. Try again. For the record, we do not believe that garments are some sort of "god protection" from harm. They are referred to a "protection" in that they remind the wearer of the covenants that they have made, and in being reminded of those commitments, they might be less likely to break them. It is kinda like the rumble stripe on the sides of the highway. They are not going to physically stop your vehicle from leaving the road way, they are simply going to remind you that you are about to screw up. |
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Sex before marriage (and marriage can only be between a man and a woman) is a no-go. "sex" includes: vaginal intercourse, anal, oral, hand jobs (including masturbation), groping, rubbing, touching... or any other possible contact with genitalia and / or women's breasts other than for medical stuff. If a guy and a girl do anal sex together, and they repent, they will be forgiven and welcomed and fellowshipped. If they refuse to repent, they will both be kicked out of the church. If 2 guys do anal sex together, and they repent, they will be forgiven and welcomed and fellowshipped. If they refuse to repent, they will both be kicked out of the church. You see, the penalty for "gay sex" is exactly the same... because any sexual contact outside of marriage is a sin. Not so cut and try. There's not a matrix that says "This equals that." I just gave you 100% straight doctrine. Show me something that says otherwise. |
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Sex before marriage (and marriage can only be between a man and a woman) is a no-go. "sex" includes: vaginal intercourse, anal, oral, hand jobs (including masturbation), groping, rubbing, touching... or any other possible contact with genitalia and / or women's breasts other than for medical stuff. If a guy and a girl do anal sex together, and they repent, they will be forgiven and welcomed and fellowshipped. If they refuse to repent, they will both be kicked out of the church. If 2 guys do anal sex together, and they repent, they will be forgiven and welcomed and fellowshipped. If they refuse to repent, they will both be kicked out of the church. You see, the penalty for "gay sex" is exactly the same... because any sexual contact outside of marriage is a sin. Not so cut and try. There's not a matrix that says "This equals that." I just gave you 100% straight doctrine. Show me something that says otherwise. I nailed the shit out of chicks outside of marriage and was never excommunicated. |
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Sex before marriage (and marriage can only be between a man and a woman) is a no-go. "sex" includes: vaginal intercourse, anal, oral, hand jobs (including masturbation), groping, rubbing, touching... or any other possible contact with genitalia and / or women's breasts other than for medical stuff. If a guy and a girl do anal sex together, and they repent, they will be forgiven and welcomed and fellowshipped. If they refuse to repent, they will both be kicked out of the church. If 2 guys do anal sex together, and they repent, they will be forgiven and welcomed and fellowshipped. If they refuse to repent, they will both be kicked out of the church. You see, the penalty for "gay sex" is exactly the same... because any sexual contact outside of marriage is a sin. Not so cut and try. There's not a matrix that says "This equals that." I just gave you 100% straight doctrine. Show me something that says otherwise. I nailed the shit out of chicks outside of marriage and was never excommunicated. Did you confess and repent, or have you been hiding all this time? |
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Once you've completed your endowment cerimony and receive Temple garments (daily underwear) they will serve as a reminder of your various vows/commitments to live chaste life.So the underwear will keep you pure. Garments will also protect you from fire .carwrecks and natural disasters.If The Lord ever sees fit to make somebody's undergarments into armour against physical harm, you won't get any protest from me. However, urban myths and rumor aside, I've only personally considered it to be a protection in the sense that keeping one's covenants is protection from the harm that comes from sin. |
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did you talk to the bishop about said nailing? also, what office of the priesthood do you hold? ETA: AJ is ahead of me. Aaronic preisthood; yes, I did, however I felt no guilt so I never repented. Still on Preisthood probation, and probably will be indefinitely, since I have some personal objections to the doctorine. |
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Once you've completed your endowment cerimony and receive Temple garments (daily underwear) they will serve as a reminder of your various vows/commitments to live chaste life.So the underwear will keep you pure. Garments will also protect you from fire .carwrecks and natural disasters.If The Lord ever sees fit to make somebody's undergarments into armour against physical harm, you won't get any protest from me. However, urban myths and rumor aside, I've only personally considered it to be a protection in the sense that keeping one's covenants is protection from the harm that comes from sin. I don't buy into the whole "my garments will save me from a fire" mumbo jumbo. That said, my buddy had a kickback with a chainsaw a couple of weeks back. Tore clean through his jeans, but his garments and his leg were fine. Probably just a freak occurance, but was interesting nonetheless. |
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Sex before marriage (and marriage can only be between a man and a woman) is a no-go. "sex" includes: vaginal intercourse, anal, oral, hand jobs (including masturbation), groping, rubbing, touching... or any other possible contact with genitalia and / or women's breasts other than for medical stuff. If a guy and a girl do anal sex together, and they repent, they will be forgiven and welcomed and fellowshipped. If they refuse to repent, they will both be kicked out of the church. If 2 guys do anal sex together, and they repent, they will be forgiven and welcomed and fellowshipped. If they refuse to repent, they will both be kicked out of the church. You see, the penalty for "gay sex" is exactly the same... because any sexual contact outside of marriage is a sin. Not so cut and try. There's not a matrix that says "This equals that." I just gave you 100% straight doctrine. Show me something that says otherwise. I nailed the shit out of chicks outside of marriage and was never excommunicated. Did you confess and repent, or have you been hiding all this time? I think you two are splitting unnecessary hairs. As is often the case, circumstances, attitudes, callings and priesthood offices held, and other things can all factor into what takes place in a disciplinary counsel, along with whether somebody even wants to come forward and repent. I've served on disciplinary counsels and other callings enough times to avoid making too specific of blanket statements on such matters. My experience also makes me hesitant to make myself a judge on such things. Being called to judge such matters can be heartbreaking and humbling. Not something one wants to volunteer for...once one has been there. |
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the way i understand it, disfellowship and excommunication would be more likely if you were an elder. the whole much is given/much is required thing. I'd imagine so. I've been inactive for about 5 years now, my time for Melchizedek preisthood has come and gone a while ago. |
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the way i understand it, disfellowship and excommunication would be more likely if you were an elder. the whole much is given/much is required thing. I'd imagine so. I've been inactive for about 5 years now, my time for Melchizedek preisthood has come and gone a while ago. it doesnt have to be gone. all it takes is work, a desire, and support from others but all in all it is your choice and all anyone can do is let you make it. |
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Once you've completed your endowment cerimony and receive Temple garments (daily underwear) they will serve as a reminder of your various vows/commitments to live chaste life.So the underwear will keep you pure. Yes and no. You are the one who makes the decision to remain pure, the garments just remind you of your covenants. Garments will also/are also credited with protecting the wearer from fire .carwrecks and natural disasters .
Stranger things have happened. Garments are a sign of a covenant made. They're not enchanted, and are made out of a pretty thin cotton, and from an underwear standpoint are pretty much unremarkable and not considerably different in appearance than your basic Fruit of the Loom boxer briefs and tee-shirts. Mormon cops (wearing garments) have been killed in the line of duty. Try again. For the record, we do not believe that garments are some sort of "god protection" from harm. They are referred to a "protection" in that they remind the wearer of the covenants that they have made, and in being reminded of those commitments, they might be less likely to break them. It is kinda like the rumble stripe on the sides of the highway. They are not going to physically stop your vehicle from leaving the road way, they are simply going to remind you that you are about to screw up. RUMBLE STRIPE OMG LMAO I love this sumation,I'm going to use the sumation next meeting! Please re-read my words and remove the bit of sarcasm for levity I used. Temple Garments are received after endowment cerimonies and are their to help remind the wearer of their chaste vows. Temple Garments are underwear that is nothing like fruit of the loom haynes etc. they are sacred and serve a great purpose to the LDS Follower . Garments have been acredited to protecting the wearer from great harm such as fires carwrecks and natural disasters. As do crucifixes scapulures and Bibles have received credit for doing the same for people of other faiths. |
| By the way, when it comes to sin of any kind (including sexual) the primary concern is the eternal welfare of the sinner. Sure, protecting the integrity of the church can also factor into these matters (which is why screwing up as a bishop can result in more strict consequences than for a 14 year old Aaronic Priesthood holding teacher) but ultimately the goal is to help bring souls to Christ. |
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the way i understand it, disfellowship and excommunication would be more likely if you were an elder. the whole much is given/much is required thing. I'd imagine so. I've been inactive for about 5 years now, my time for Melchizedek preisthood has come and gone a while ago. it doesnt have to be gone. all it takes is work, a desire, and support from others but all in all it is your choice and all anyone can do is let you make it. Well said, 40xb-shooter. Hey DarkCharisma, you're always welcome to make the journey back.
"Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls." |
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Once you've completed your endowment cerimony and receive Temple garments (daily underwear) they will serve as a reminder of your various vows/commitments to live chaste life.So the underwear will keep you pure. Yes and no. You are the one who makes the decision to remain pure, the garments just remind you of your covenants. Garments will also/are also credited with protecting the wearer from fire .carwrecks and natural disasters .
Stranger things have happened. Garments are a sign of a covenant made. They're not enchanted, and are made out of a pretty thin cotton, and from an underwear standpoint are pretty much unremarkable and not considerably different in appearance than your basic Fruit of the Loom boxer briefs and tee-shirts. Mormon cops (wearing garments) have been killed in the line of duty. Try again. For the record, we do not believe that garments are some sort of "god protection" from harm. They are referred to a "protection" in that they remind the wearer of the covenants that they have made, and in being reminded of those commitments, they might be less likely to break them. It is kinda like the rumble stripe on the sides of the highway. They are not going to physically stop your vehicle from leaving the road way, they are simply going to remind you that you are about to screw up. RUMBLE STRIPE OMG LMAO I love this sumation,I'm going to use the sumation next meeting! Please re-read my words and remove the bit of sarcasm for levity I used. Temple Garments are received after endowment cerimonies and are their to help remind the wearer of their chaste vows. Temple Garments are underwear that is nothing like fruit of the loom haynes etc. they are sacred and serve a great purpose to the LDS Follower . Garments have been acredited to protecting the wearer from great harm such as fires carwrecks and natural disasters. As do crucifixes scapulures and Bibles have received credit for doing the same for people of other faiths. You're fine, no worries. My mission president told us the one about the rumble stripe, I really liked it too, so I repeat it often. We seriously had missionaries who thought that they had Kevlar on or something and could not be injured. |
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the way i understand it, disfellowship and excommunication would be more likely if you were an elder. the whole much is given/much is required thing. I'd imagine so. I've been inactive for about 5 years now, my time for Melchizedek preisthood has come and gone a while ago. You are always welcome back. You know that. |
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In the LDS Church sex is intended to take place within the bounds of marriage. That means no sex before marriage, and after marriage that means sex only with the person to whom you are lawfully married. Homosexual sex is off limits. By the teaching of Joseph Smith or Jesus Christ? Was this on the golden plates that Smith found or something that Angel Moroni said also?
You disagree with it? Have you read the Old and New Testaments? Or are you just blatantly trolling? Don't disagree with it nor do I agree with if for I'm not a Mormon. I know a small amount on the Mormon faith and my neighbors are Mormons so I'm always looking to gain more knowledge of different faiths. Jesus Christ never said anything about homosexuality that any of us know about. Do I seriously sound like I'm trolling? I have read the new and the old testament many times also and sorry but most of the new testament is not considered by most to be the "word of God" unless you are talking about the gospels. True, Jesus didn't explicity say homosexuality was an abomination (well, actually He did, but before His earthly ministry –– see Leviticus 20:13). However, He was an Orthodox Jew, one who was recognized even by his enemies as a Rabbi of great power and authority. The Pharisees and Sadducees, who both did their best to discredit Him, never once even intimated that He had personally indulged in or condoned any form of sexual immoralty. Since they were eagerly searching for any type of misdeed to charge Him with it strains credulity to assert that they would have overlooked approval of homosexuality on His part, especially since the Law of Moses provided that gays should be stoned. Leviticus was the name given on the third book of the Pentateuch by the ancient Greek translators because a good part of the book consists of sacrificial and other ritual laws prescribed for the priests of the tribe of Levi. This book doesn't refer to Jesus at all just the Lord seeing as this is old testament. I don't condone homosexual behavior but if it's such an abomination why isn't it in the 10 commandments and why doesn't Christ mention it once in the New Testament? This is the book that also forbids tattoos and suggests I bring an "unblemished she-goat" as an offering for sins. I'm not an ala carte Christian like someone suggested but one has to take the bible in the context of the time it was written and remeber the differences between the "fire and brimstone" God of the old testament and the forgiving God of the new. |
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In the LDS Church sex is intended to take place within the bounds of marriage. That means no sex before marriage, and after marriage that means sex only with the person to whom you are lawfully married. Homosexual sex is off limits. By the teaching of Joseph Smith or Jesus Christ? Was this on the golden plates that Smith found or something that Angel Moroni said also?
You disagree with it? Have you read the Old and New Testaments? Or are you just blatantly trolling? Don't disagree with it nor do I agree with if for I'm not a Mormon. I know a small amount on the Mormon faith and my neighbors are Mormons so I'm always looking to gain more knowledge of different faiths. Jesus Christ never said anything about homosexuality that any of us know about. Do I seriously sound like I'm trolling? I have read the new and the old testament many times also and sorry but most of the new testament is not considered by most to be the "word of God" unless you are talking about the gospels. True, Jesus didn't explicity say homosexuality was an abomination (well, actually He did, but before His earthly ministry –– see Leviticus 20:13). However, He was an Orthodox Jew, one who was recognized even by his enemies as a Rabbi of great power and authority. The Pharisees and Sadducees, who both did their best to discredit Him, never once even intimated that He had personally indulged in or condoned any form of sexual immoralty. Since they were eagerly searching for any type of misdeed to charge Him with it strains credulity to assert that they would have overlooked approval of homosexuality on His part, especially since the Law of Moses provided that gays should be stoned. Leviticus was the name given on the third book of the Pentateuch by the ancient Greek translators because a good part of the book consists of sacrificial and other ritual laws prescribed for the priests of the tribe of Levi. This book doesn't refer to Jesus at all just the Lord seeing as this is old testament. I don't condone homosexual behavior but if it's such an abomination why isn't it in the 10 commandments and why doesn't Christ mention it once in the New Testament? This is the book that also forbids tattoos and suggests I bring an "unblemished she-goat" as an offering for sins. I'm not an ala carte Christian like someone suggested but one has to take the bible in the context of the time it was written and remeber the differences between the "fire and brimstone" God of the old testament and the forgiving God of the new. The matter is again referenced in the Pauline epistles in the NT. "Sodomy" is also referenced in Genesis, so we have multiple references in both the Old and New Testaments. As I indicated before, this is a clear matter except to those who take an a la carte approach to the scriptures. |
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In the LDS Church sex is intended to take place within the bounds of marriage. That means no sex before marriage, and after marriage that means sex only with the person to whom you are lawfully married. Homosexual sex is off limits. By the teaching of Joseph Smith or Jesus Christ? Was this on the golden plates that Smith found or something that Angel Moroni said also?
You disagree with it? Have you read the Old and New Testaments? Or are you just blatantly trolling? Don't disagree with it nor do I agree with if for I'm not a Mormon. I know a small amount on the Mormon faith and my neighbors are Mormons so I'm always looking to gain more knowledge of different faiths. Jesus Christ never said anything about homosexuality that any of us know about. Do I seriously sound like I'm trolling? I have read the new and the old testament many times also and sorry but most of the new testament is not considered by most to be the "word of God" unless you are talking about the gospels. True, Jesus didn't explicity say homosexuality was an abomination (well, actually He did, but before His earthly ministry –– see Leviticus 20:13). However, He was an Orthodox Jew, one who was recognized even by his enemies as a Rabbi of great power and authority. The Pharisees and Sadducees, who both did their best to discredit Him, never once even intimated that He had personally indulged in or condoned any form of sexual immoralty. Since they were eagerly searching for any type of misdeed to charge Him with it strains credulity to assert that they would have overlooked approval of homosexuality on His part, especially since the Law of Moses provided that gays should be stoned. Leviticus was the name given on the third book of the Pentateuch by the ancient Greek translators because a good part of the book consists of sacrificial and other ritual laws prescribed for the priests of the tribe of Levi. This book doesn't refer to Jesus at all just the Lord seeing as this is old testament. I don't condone homosexual behavior but if it's such an abomination why isn't it in the 10 commandments and why doesn't Christ mention it once in the New Testament? This is the book that also forbids tattoos and suggests I bring an "unblemished she-goat" as an offering for sins. I'm not an ala carte Christian like someone suggested but one has to take the bible in the context of the time it was written and remeber the differences between the "fire and brimstone" God of the old testament and the forgiving God of the new. The matter is again referenced in the Pauline epistles in the NT. "Sodomy" is also referenced in Genesis, so we have multiple references in both the Old and New Testaments. As I indicated before, this is a clear matter except to those who take an a la carte approach to the scriptures, or want to try to justify their homosexual transgressions. My words added. |
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In the LDS Church sex is intended to take place within the bounds of marriage. That means no sex before marriage, and after marriage that means sex only with the person to whom you are lawfully married. Homosexual sex is off limits. By the teaching of Joseph Smith or Jesus Christ? Was this on the golden plates that Smith found or something that Angel Moroni said also?
You disagree with it? Have you read the Old and New Testaments? Or are you just blatantly trolling? Don't disagree with it nor do I agree with if for I'm not a Mormon. I know a small amount on the Mormon faith and my neighbors are Mormons so I'm always looking to gain more knowledge of different faiths. Jesus Christ never said anything about homosexuality that any of us know about. Do I seriously sound like I'm trolling? I have read the new and the old testament many times also and sorry but most of the new testament is not considered by most to be the "word of God" unless you are talking about the gospels. True, Jesus didn't explicity say homosexuality was an abomination (well, actually He did, but before His earthly ministry –– see Leviticus 20:13). However, He was an Orthodox Jew, one who was recognized even by his enemies as a Rabbi of great power and authority. The Pharisees and Sadducees, who both did their best to discredit Him, never once even intimated that He had personally indulged in or condoned any form of sexual immoralty. Since they were eagerly searching for any type of misdeed to charge Him with it strains credulity to assert that they would have overlooked approval of homosexuality on His part, especially since the Law of Moses provided that gays should be stoned. Leviticus was the name given on the third book of the Pentateuch by the ancient Greek translators because a good part of the book consists of sacrificial and other ritual laws prescribed for the priests of the tribe of Levi. This book doesn't refer to Jesus at all just the Lord seeing as this is old testament. I don't condone homosexual behavior but if it's such an abomination why isn't it in the 10 commandments and why doesn't Christ mention it once in the New Testament? This is the book that also forbids tattoos and suggests I bring an "unblemished she-goat" as an offering for sins. I'm not an ala carte Christian like someone suggested but one has to take the bible in the context of the time it was written and remeber the differences between the "fire and brimstone" God of the old testament and the forgiving God of the new. The matter is again referenced in the Pauline epistles in the NT. "Sodomy" is also referenced in Genesis, so we have multiple references in both the Old and New Testaments. As I indicated before, this is a clear matter except to those who take an a la carte approach to the scriptures, or want to try to justify their homosexual transgressions. My words added. Even StonerStudent has pointed out in the past that a homosexual lifestyle would be contradictory to Christianity. He's gay and just pointed out the obvious. |
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Once you've completed your endowment cerimony and receive Temple garments (daily underwear) they will serve as a reminder of your various vows/commitments to live chaste life.So the underwear will keep you pure. Garments will also protect you from fire .carwrecks and natural disasters.so are these boxers or briefs ? a thong for the ladies or something else ? |