[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Drug Test (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/12/2010 5:13:40 AM EDT
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I just got a letter in the mail saying I need to go in for another random drug test. I have never have a problem with that before.
The point? I tweaked my back on Saturday helping some family move and took three doses of Vicotin geniric pills on Sunday. The pills were a 325 /5 or something like that. I took 3 two pill doses. So, how long untill this stuff is out of my system? Google says 3-5 days. Just wanted to make sure that was legit. And before you start in on the stay clean stuff,I know. It was Sunday and I didn't feel bad enough to justify paying for a trip to the ER. 
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I just got a letter in the mail saying I need to go in for another random drug test. I have never have a problem with that before. The point? I tweaked my back on Saturday helping some family move and took three doses of Vicotin geniric pills on Sunday. The pills were a 325 /5 or something like that. I took 3 two pill doses. So, how long untill this stuff is out of my system? Google says 3-5 days. Just wanted tomake sure that was legit. And before you start in on the stay clean stuff,I know. It was Sunday and I didn't feel bad enough to justify paying for a trip to the ER. It all depends on your body habitus, but yeah 3-5 for hydrocodone is right. |
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If they were prescribed to you, you shouldn't have a problem. If they weren't prescribed to you, congratulations, you've just run afoul of the drug war. They were, but 5? years ago. Does the script have a refill on it, maybe you can go get it refilled today? |
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If they were prescribed to you, you shouldn't have a problem. If they weren't prescribed to you, congratulations, you've just run afoul of the drug war. They were, but 5? years ago. Does the script have a refill on it, maybe you can go get it refilled today?[/quote] Probably can't. In Tx an Rx for a controlled substance is only good for 6 mos. regardless of the nimber of refills. If you have an Rx for the hydrocodone you are golden. You will test positive, but when the MRO calls, all you have to do is produce the Rx |
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Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... |
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Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... Yep. We test the urine creatinine and specific gravity |
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Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... Yep. We test the urine creatinine and specific gravity All true but won't they ask you to come back and take another if it's diluted? Might give OP that extra day he needs. |
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Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... If true, by the time they get back to you it won't matter. Go buy a home drug test. It's not as sensitive as the labs do, but it's something. The dip sticks we use at work aren't officially lab sensitive but they are very close. If your dip stick is negative, you go back to work. We still send off negative to be sure but no one has come back not-negative that was negative on the dip stick. |
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Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... Yep. We test the urine creatinine and specific gravity All true but won't they ask you to come back and take another if it's diluted? Might give OP that extra day he needs. Depending on the OP's situation, if this is for a new job, they might skip over him and go to the next person... If its for a current job, then they might start screening more often... it would give him some more time, but in most situations a diluted test is bad juju.. |
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Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... Yep. We test the urine creatinine and specific gravity All true but won't they ask you to come back and take another if it's diluted? Might give OP that extra day he needs. Depends on the employer and the MRO. They aren't obligated to retest. If it's an adulterated or diluted specimen they can call it that. Same as a positive |
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Quoted: Yes.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... Yep. We test the urine creatinine and specific gravity All true but won't they ask you to come back and take another if it's diluted? Might give OP that extra day he needs. Depends on the employer and the MRO. They aren't obligated to retest. If it's an adulterated or diluted specimen they can call it that. Same as a positive Our policy basically says if you fail, you fail. Doesn't matter if it is positive for drugs or an adulterated test. There are very few laws regulating how employers drug test and how their policies are written. We can simply say too bad, so sad, and send the employee on their way. |
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Be careful. My company considers negative dilute a positive test. I seriously doubt that.... Umm, yeah. Quoted from my employee manual..................."Furthermore, a urine drug test result of “negative-dilute” result will be treated as a positive result." |
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i fucking hate drug tests. seems like i get called in for random testing 3 times a year or so and lose half a day for it each time.
once though i made the unforgivable mistake of washing my fucking hands before leaving the bathroom. i was told that the sample wouldn't count and that i'd have to reschedule. in a town of 5000 people where everybody knows everybody elses business? i don't' think so. i told her i'd sit in the waiting room until i was ready to piss again. sure enough it still made the rounds that i had tried to "cheat."
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Be careful. My company considers negative dilute a positive test. I seriously doubt that.... Umm, yeah. Quoted from my employee manual..................."Furthermore, a urine drug test result of "negative-dilute” result will be treated as a positive result."  so working hard in the heat, drinking a bunch of water before a surprise drug test will be treated as positive for drugs, despite none being detected? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Yes.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... Yep. We test the urine creatinine and specific gravity All true but won't they ask you to come back and take another if it's diluted? Might give OP that extra day he needs. Depends on the employer and the MRO. They aren't obligated to retest. If it's an adulterated or diluted specimen they can call it that. Same as a positive Our policy basically says if you fail, you fail. Doesn't matter if it is positive for drugs or an adulterated test. There are very few laws regulating how employers drug test and how their policies are written. We can simply say too bad, so sad, and send the employee on their way. Your employer will shitcan you for having a large diet coke on the way to your random drug test? That sure sounds like an organization I want to work for. |
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Be careful. My company considers negative dilute a positive test. I seriously doubt that.... Umm, yeah. Quoted from my employee manual..................."Furthermore, a urine drug test result of "negative-dilute” result will be treated as a positive result." so working hard in the heat, drinking a bunch of water before a surprise drug test will be treated as positive for drugs, despite none being detected?
Yes. My thoughts exactly. Especially in the south. |
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Be careful. My company considers negative dilute a positive test. I seriously doubt that.... Umm, yeah. Quoted from my employee manual..................."Furthermore, a urine drug test result of “negative-dilute” result will be treated as a positive result." Same here, my employer dont fuck around when it comes to drugs of any kind. |
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Be careful. My company considers negative dilute a positive test. I seriously doubt that.... Umm, yeah. Quoted from my employee manual..................."Furthermore, a urine drug test result of "negative-dilute” result will be treated as a positive result." so working hard in the heat, drinking a bunch of water before a surprise drug test will be treated as positive for drugs, despite none being detected? It's very difficult to drink that much water. You would be approaching water intoxication. In addition, working would increase the amount of creatinine in your urine, so this would not happen. But if it did, the answer is yes. |
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Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... Yep. We test the urine creatinine and specific gravity So go get some creatine from GNC, and take lots of vitamin B to keep the urine yellow. I don't know how to adjust specific gravity, but google can probably tell me. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... Yep. We test the urine creatinine and specific gravity So go get some creatine from GNC, and take lots of vitamin B to keep the urine yellow. I don't know how to adjust specific gravity, but google can probably tell me. Drink gatorade instead of water. |
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Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... Yep. We test the urine creatinine and specific gravity So go get some creatine from GNC, and take lots of vitamin B to keep the urine yellow. I don't know how to adjust specific gravity, but google can probably tell me. Bbbsssstttt, but thanks for playing |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... Yep. We test the urine creatinine and specific gravity All true but won't they ask you to come back and take another if it's diluted? Might give OP that extra day he needs. Depends on the employer and the MRO. They aren't obligated to retest. If it's an adulterated or diluted specimen they can call it that. Same as a positive Our policy basically says if you fail, you fail. Doesn't matter if it is positive for drugs or an adulterated test. There are very few laws regulating how employers drug test and how their policies are written. We can simply say too bad, so sad, and send the employee on their way. Your employer will shitcan you for having a large diet coke on the way to your random drug test? That sure sounds like an organization I want to work for.  |
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Well, here is my experience. I had the same pill perscribed to me for my busted up back. I tweaked it, just as you did, and grabbed some out of the medicine cabinet. Same pills, but they were my wife's. I got the call in the morning for a random. I sweated bullets but I came up clean. I had only taken one. Either they didn't test for it, or it was gone by then... no idea. We had a class a year or so later with HR, and I asked them what the policy was and told them what had happened. The lady laughed and told me "we can tell the difference between abuse and use. While you are supposed to do what you did... who wouldn't in a similar situation? " OP, you know if you were abuising or not, and as such, your conscience should be clean. Take your test, and don't sweat it until you have to. Then, let moral indignation be your guide. |
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Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... We've had to send a few back for a follow up test for this reason. The good news for them is they still work here. 
Drink water, take vitamins, and get some caffiene and nicotine (if you're a tobbaco user) in you. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Drink lots of water before your test. Bad idea, If they use any adulteration strips... Drinking water will flush your system, and possible give a false neg reading, However if the place actually pays attention to the test they will see that something isnt right.... If its just a dip test, you can drink a shitload of water and take a few vitamins to color your pee up and you will be good to go... If it is sent to a lab then the levels in your body will show the flush.... Yep. We test the urine creatinine and specific gravity All true but won't they ask you to come back and take another if it's diluted? Might give OP that extra day he needs. Depends on the employer and the MRO. They aren't obligated to retest. If it's an adulterated or diluted specimen they can call it that. Same as a positive Our policy basically says if you fail, you fail. Doesn't matter if it is positive for drugs or an adulterated test. There are very few laws regulating how employers drug test and how their policies are written. We can simply say too bad, so sad, and send the employee on their way. Your employer will shitcan you for having a large diet coke on the way to your random drug test? That sure sounds like an organization I want to work for. Drinking one of those barrels of soft drink that McDonalds and other establishments peddle will dilute your urine. The kits to beat drug tests are just some electrolytes, creatine and vitamins to mask the fact that you're diluting your urine by drinking lots of water. The soda does the same thing, without hiding the fact that your urine is diluted and causing a fail. |
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Quoted: Your employer will shitcan you for having a large diet coke on the way to your random drug test? That sure sounds like an organization I want to work for. Drinking one of those barrels of soft drink that McDonalds and other establishments peddle will dilute your urine. The kits to beat drug tests are just some electrolytes, creatine and vitamins to mask the fact that you're diluting your urine by drinking lots of water. The soda does the same thing, without hiding the fact that your urine is diluted and causing a fail. I can honestly say we've never had something like that happen but I'll keep it in mind. Hell, we've been on hot jobs where we just drink water plus a bit of Gatorade to prevent dehydration and then swung over to another job and taken a drug test and not had any problems. Some of the older style instant cup urine drug screens were pretty false-positive prone but today's are a whole different ball of wax. Same goes for actual testing in a lab as well. And yes, we consider adulteration as a failure to test which = positive which = termination. Never had any issues with it honestly. |
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Didnt scroll through all of the posts so I dont know if this has been posted. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES, NOT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS!!!!!! DO NOT DRINK A LOT OF WATER. TAKE YOUR WIZ QUIZ AND DONT WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING UNLESS YOU HAVE HAD ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES. |
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WTF? They are his pills. They were prescribed to him. There is no time limit on how long you can keep the pills or when you have to stop taking them.
Go take the test and when they ask tell them that you've taken prescribed Vicodin within the last week for back pain and that you can provide the script if needed. It's not that big of a deal. 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Be careful. My company considers negative dilute a positive test. I seriously doubt that.... Umm, yeah. Quoted from my employee manual..................."Furthermore, a urine drug test result of "negative-dilute” result will be treated as a positive result." so working hard in the heat, drinking a bunch of water before a surprise drug test will be treated as positive for drugs, despite none being detected? Rangermonroe has a good point. I'm a type II diabetic and I drink tons of water all the time. I've been passed over for a job twice, maybe this explains why.  |
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Quoted: Very well possibleM4.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Be careful. My company considers negative dilute a positive test. I seriously doubt that.... Umm, yeah. Quoted from my employee manual..................."Furthermore, a urine drug test result of "negative-dilute” result will be treated as a positive result." so working hard in the heat, drinking a bunch of water before a surprise drug test will be treated as positive for drugs, despite none being detected? Rangermonroe has a good point. I'm a type II diabetic and I drink tons of water all the time. I've been passed over for a job twice, maybe this explains why. Next pee test, can you go a little while without drinking as much water? I dont know a lot about diabetis (as I type this, Wilford Brimley is on ttv talking about Liberty Medical). But then again, I dont know if companies tell you if you fail because of a bad drug test or not. |
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Quoted: Not in the USCG it isn't. Instant process for discharge because "you're using/abusing a controlled substance". The reasoning? The scrip is no longer valid. Quoted: bring the script `...... even 5 years old , it is yours and makes your possession and use legal ..... Surely this is the correct answer. I would hope so anyway. |
| Our whole drug testing program is kinda different from the ones you guys are talking about. We get a letter in the mail and we aare supposed to make it to a facility to test with in 72 hours. I guess it's an honer system of sorts. I know of guys that have just flat out said they never got the letter and all that got them is a call a week or two later saying they needed to make it in that day. I think I'm going to wait until Monday and try it then. Monday's past the 72 hours I'm supposed to make it in buy, but I like having the buffer in there. Monday will be 8 days from any consumption, and that takes most of the doubt out of my mind. |