Posted: 7/31/2010 4:22:18 PM EDT
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So I found a 1945 Farmall H. He is asking $1400. It looks pretty good from what I can see through the fence, but I know nothing about tractors. Is this a good deal for these types of tractors? What problems should I look for? I does not have a front loading and am not sure if it comes with any attachments. I called and am waiting for the guy to call back. |
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Quoted: Tires cracking, seals leaking, the case between the transmission and the differential shifting under torque, and on and on and on. Wide front or narrow front? Quick hitch? 2 point? What do you want to do with this thing? It's a narrow front, not sure on the rest. I am waiting for the seller to call me back. I have 1/2 an acre that is all dirt, and since I have a bad back, weeding is a giant pain. I mostly plan to use it to scrape the yard, but would like to plow a large area for a garden. |
| If you are planning on working it like that, pass. You need something with a 3 point hitch and a good PTO. The H has nether. About all you can do with an H is drag stuff and it's under powered for that. The price is about right for around here if it runs and the tires hold air. I used one for about ten years pulling logs out of the woods and plowing. Paid $800 for it and sold it 2 years ago for $1500. |
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Tires cracking, seals leaking, the case between the transmission and the differential shifting under torque, and on and on and on. Wide front or narrow front? Quick hitch? 2 point? What do you want to do with this thing? It's a narrow front, not sure on the rest. I am waiting for the seller to call me back. I have 1/2 an acre that is all dirt, and since I have a bad back, weeding is a giant pain. I mostly plan to use it to scrape the yard, but would like to plow a large area for a garden. An H is waaaaay too much tractor for you. Look into John Deer 400 series, or a 430. |
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Have the seller run it. Does it smoke? Will it idle smoothly? Drive it in a couple gears and see if there are any weird sounds.
My Dad had a Farmall B and it was a good tractor. He ran a 72" belly mower on it and the thing would cut all day long. The nice part about the pigeon toed front wheels is that the tractor will turn on a dime. |
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If this is your first tractor, walk away from the farmall.
For your discribed use a 8n or 9n with hydro udgrades are the best deal. Farm all's have become a "collector" tractor. not worth the prices. A good 8n or 9n with 3pt and hydro kits can be found for about $2,000 in great shape. A 8n is like the model T of tractors, easy to use and easy to fix. |
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I would get a newer diesel compact tractor.
I bought a Yanmar gray market 1510 with a box blade for $3500.00. Used Rhino tiller for $300.00 Used Ford 938 shredder- traded for it so $0 Homemade row maker made from scrap metal- $0 Had the front tires foam filled for $75.00. Have used it for three years now with no problems. |
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Had the front tires foam filled for $75.00. Could you tell me a little about this? I have a 9n that the front rubber has good tread but is cracking real bad. I will need a new set soon. They fill the tires with a polyurethane foam instead of air. No more flats. The tire must be in good shape to handle the pressure of injecting the polyurethane and when you replace the tires afterwards, they must be cut off the rim. well worth the money. |
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Does it look like this? 
http://www.antiquetractors.com/contents/tpic57.htm Or like this.... 
http://www.chatstractors.com/061238_Farmalll_h_tractor.htm |
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It sounds like you want a tractor as opposed to needing one...I recommend one of these... <a href="http://" target="_blank">http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd211/theBUBBAMANcan/ModelA.jpg</a> I have an A and love it to death, but for his uses it sounds like he needs a 420, 320, or something of that size. At least something with hydraulics. ETA: Ive got a 520 and it might be a bit big for what he needs, but something in that line. |
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Quoted: Does it look like this? http://www.antiquetractors.com/yphotos/8154.jpg http://www.antiquetractors.com/contents/tpic57.htm Or like this.... http://www.chatstractors.com/2006_farmall/061238_farmall_h_loader_leftside.jpg http://www.chatstractors.com/061238_Farmalll_h_tractor.htm These days, even that bottom one is probably worth $1500. ETA: http://www.ironsearch.com/Agriculture-Equipment-Tractor/SmartSort-Equipment/Tractors/International/%28s%29h%28s%29.aspx |
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I have owned an H. I am not sure why people are saying it does not have a PTO, every H I have seen has both a PTO and a Belt pulley.
As for the advice on attachments, they are correct. It is a FastHitch system, meaning that you are going to just drag implements (they have wheels on them, for the mowers, etc). There are ways to run hydraulic equipment, but it is not something you want to get involved in for the money. IMHO, a 1/2 acre of dirt is pretty small for working an H. They only had about 25HP at the drawbar. For medium work (pulling a 5' mower) this is adequate. For dragging stumps, or pulling trailers it is also acceptable. But, the kicker is you only plan to use in on a 1/2 acre. That's pretty tight for most tractors that had FastHitch equipment. Since you are 'dragging' everything behind you, then turning radiuses, maneuvering and working the tractor is not a simple feat in tight areas. Unless you are pretty dang good with backing equipment around with a tricycle tracotr then you are going to spend alot of time cussing and spitting over the fact that you cannot lift the equipment with a 3-pt system. As for the fact that it would be your first tractor, the Farmall H is pretty damn simple to work on. Simple carb, simple electrical system, nothing that can really 'go bad' in the electronics. Magneto system that is bulletproof, brakes are easy to fix, and if it is running fine, then it will probably give you years of service. But, at 1500, unless it comes with a mower, a disc, a plow, a trailer, and DAMN good tires, I would pass. PS. I bought a completely mechanically restored, rebuilt and primered 1954 Super M for 3000.00 about 4 years ago. It is 5 times the tractor of the H, but the hydraulics were not working on the Super M. By the time I got the hydraulics working, and fixed a starter, and some minor issues i was 4000.00 in to the tractor alone. I expect to keep using the tractor for 20+ years, so I did not mind the investment, but compared to the Super M, the H is a child's toy. TRG |
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Listen to TRG.. He knows his tractors. Hey TRG.. Ever find the parts for your loader? Loader? You mean the 3pt system? Yes, put it in a shop, they claimed to know what they were doing. I could have done better myself, but it is now functional. TRG Oops.. Been awhile, like last fall.. |
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Quoted: As for the advice on attachments, they are correct. It is a FastHitch system, meaning that you are going to just drag implements (they have wheels on them, for the mowers, etc). There are ways to run hydraulic equipment, but it is not something you want to get involved in for the money. TRG If it's original, it will just have a plain ol' draw bar. AFIK, the Fast Hitch was an option on Super Cs, the 100, 200, 300, 400, 150, 250, 350, 450 & some others on into the 60s. It is possible that somebody added a Fast Hitch to it though, as I've seen this done to M Farmalls as well. |
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As for the advice on attachments, they are correct. It is a FastHitch system, meaning that you are going to just drag implements (they have wheels on them, for the mowers, etc). There are ways to run hydraulic equipment, but it is not something you want to get involved in for the money. TRG If it's original, it will just have a plain ol' draw bar. AFIK, the Fast Hitch was an option on Super Cs, the 100, 200, 300, 400, 150, 250, 350, 450 & some others on into the 60s. It is possible that somebody added a Fast Hitch to it though, as I've seen this done to M Farmalls as well. You are correct. I need to stop posting while watching TV. The H I owned was a simple drawbar. I re-read the posts and still can't figure out why I thought he said it was a Fast Hitch. Hell, I even used my Farmall guide to check the HP before I posted and still don't know why I misfired on the hitch system. TRG |
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If you are planning on working it like that, pass. You need something with a 3 point hitch and a good PTO. The H has nether. About all you can do with an H is drag stuff and it's under powered for that. The price is about right for around here if it runs and the tires hold air. I used one for about ten years pulling logs out of the woods and plowing. Paid $800 for it and sold it 2 years ago for $1500. Here's part of your answer. You would be better off finding a late 50's or early 60's tractor. |
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I re-read the posts and still can't figure out why I thought he said it was a Fast Hitch. Hell, I even used my Farmall guide to check the HP before I posted and still don't know why I misfired on the hitch system. TRG 
1GR Honestly, I thought "WTF? I wasn't even drinking when I posted that.. it sucks getting old." TRG |
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An H is just a step up from a horse.Drag city!Get yourself a Ford N series,the "AR" of vintage tractors  .Well, I dunno if I would go that far. My H hauled alot of arfcommers around at Gunstock on the GayRide. I am not sure how many were on the trailer when we started downhill over the berm at 1000yrds, but from the screams I would say about twenty or so. TRG |
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An H is just a step up from a horse.Drag city!Get yourself a Ford N series,the "AR" of vintage tractors .Well, I dunno if I would go that far. My H hauled alot of arfcommers around at Gunstock on the GayRide. I am not sure how many were on the trailer when we started downhill over the berm at 1000yrds, but from the screams I would say about twenty or so. TRG No 3 point.=DRAG attachments.Good for hauling a wagon ect...Lot's still in daly use around here by the tobaco farmers pulling wagons,but there are much better choice's for home/farm duty. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: As for the advice on attachments, they are correct. It is a FastHitch system, meaning that you are going to just drag implements (they have wheels on them, for the mowers, etc). There are ways to run hydraulic equipment, but it is not something you want to get involved in for the money. TRG If it's original, it will just have a plain ol' draw bar. AFIK, the Fast Hitch was an option on Super Cs, the 100, 200, 300, 400, 150, 250, 350, 450 & some others on into the 60s. It is possible that somebody added a Fast Hitch to it though, as I've seen this done to M Farmalls as well. You are correct. I need to stop posting while watching TV. The H I owned was a simple drawbar. I re-read the posts and still can't figure out why I thought he said it was a Fast Hitch. Hell, I even used my Farmall guide to check the HP before I posted and still don't know why I misfired on the hitch system. TRG Don't feel bad, I do the same thing.  |