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7/28/2010 7:23:08 AM EDT
OK, so bare with me as I try to explain my issue here, I don't even know if what I'm trying to do is possible. I consider myself pretty computer literate, until it comes to networking, then I feel retarded.

Anyways here goes. I have two Win7 Ultimate machines wired to my home network. On my main system I have shared a RAID1 setup for backups for all computers on my network. The problem is, I do not want all users on my network to have complete unrestricted access to this drive. I want to be able to set up each computer with different permissions. So say I want to be able to make changes on this drive from my laptop, but would only want a roommate or visiting friend to have read only on their system. Now I know I can do this with local users of my main system where the drives are located. But when I go into the advanced sharing properties of the shared drive, it shows "EVERYONE" with full control, as well as me the local administrator on the main system. So here is where I run into an issue, and this is where I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. I want to add my laptop to this list of users, but it only lets me explore users on my local system, not computers in my homegroup. I can see and view the shared files, so I know I was sure they are properly networked. I just want to be able to setup permissions per computer on the network. Hope this all makes sense.

I have also noticed an option that requires a password to access the shared drive, however when I click on the shared drive, I still have complete access without needing to enter a password.


Please let me know if there is anything I need to clarify. THANKS!
7/28/2010 7:32:34 AM EDT
[#1]
Rt click on the share or drive> properties> sharing tab> advanced sharing> permissions> add> object types> check computers box, OK> enter computer name or user name> ????> click OK> profit
7/28/2010 7:36:04 AM EDT
[#2]
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Rt click on the share or drive> properties> sharing tab> advanced sharing> permissions> add> object types> check computers box, OK> enter computer name or user name> ????> click OK> profit


pretty much this or put in a DC. Id do a DC its more easer!
7/28/2010 7:40:31 AM EDT
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Rt click on the share or drive> properties> sharing tab> advanced sharing> permissions> add> object types> check computers box, OK> enter computer name or user name> ????> click OK> profit


Damn, wish I was in front of my Win 7 machine right now. This looks like it may be the answer, just by looking around my XP machine.

Now why is it when I click on locations , it only shows the name of my local system and no other computers in the homegroup?  When I click it here on my work system, it shows the entire network. I know its very different form my home machine, I would just think my home system would see the computers on my home network as well.

ETA Whats a DC? And I am working on buying a NAS soon. But this is gunna be my only option for a while here.
7/28/2010 7:43:37 AM EDT
[#4]
also what does this screen look like? can you see your network from there? I've never used Win7 in a workgroup so I don't know what it should look like for you
7/28/2010 7:46:38 AM EDT
[#5]
It looks just like that except under locations, it does not show my work group, just my local computer. I don't think the permissions setup is any different from xp-win 7.
7/28/2010 7:49:20 AM EDT
[#6]
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Rt click on the share or drive> properties> sharing tab> advanced sharing> permissions> add> object types> check computers box, OK> enter computer name or user name> ????> click OK> profit


Damn, wish I was in front of my Win 7 machine right now. This looks like it may be the answer, just by looking around my XP machine.

Now why is it when I click on locations , it only shows the name of my local system and no other computers in the homegroup?  When I click it here on my work system, it shows the entire network. I know its very different form my home machine, I would just think my home system would see the computers on my home network as well.

ETA Whats a DC? And I am working on buying a NAS soon. But this is gunna be my only option for a while here.


nevermind my last post then. DC is Domain Controller. You see that because at work you're on a domain, at home you're in a workgroup.
7/28/2010 7:59:01 AM EDT
[#7]
check Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Network and Sharing Center\Advanced sharing settings. Make sure Network Discovery is on, File and printer sharing is on, and maybe do the same on your other computers on the network also.
7/28/2010 8:03:30 AM EDT
[#8]
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check Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Network and Sharing Center\Advanced sharing settings. Make sure Network Discovery is on, File and printer sharing is on, and maybe do the same on your other computers on the network also.


Ya, it's all turned on, on both systems, and I can see the computers in my homegroup folder, it just doesn't see the homegroup when I click "locations"
7/28/2010 8:32:09 AM EDT
[#9]
All the usernames that might be connecting need to have an account on your the system that will be sharing a drive.  A logon type account, with password.  It isn't like WinXP where you could assign a password to a folder, the password is attached to the account, which is linked to the folder.  



If you do not have permissions to connect with password, you won't know it exists since it won't show you the folder.  



You can try running 'cmd' then \\COMPUTERNAME\SHARENAME   to see what error you get, and google can help from there.



Example:  Hold down the windows key and hit R, The run box will come up.    In the box, type in \\RAIDSYSTEMNAME\tactmaster  or whatever the systemname and share name are.  Do this from the system itself, and from another on the network.



Then try it once you have added a user account that matches whatever username is logged into the other computer.

7/28/2010 9:32:21 AM EDT
[#10]
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All the usernames that might be connecting need to have an account on your the system that will be sharing a drive.  A logon type account, with password.  It isn't like WinXP where you could assign a password to a folder, the password is attached to the account, which is linked to the folder.  

If you do not have permissions to connect with password, you won't know it exists since it won't show you the folder.  

You can try running 'cmd' then \\COMPUTERNAME\SHARENAME   to see what error you get, and google can help from there.

Example:  Hold down the windows key and hit R, The run box will come up.    In the box, type in \\RAIDSYSTEMNAME\tactmaster  or whatever the systemname and share name are.  Do this from the system itself, and from another on the network.

Then try it once you have added a user account that matches whatever username is logged into the other computer.


I have two computers on the network that use the same user name . I usually just use my first name for the account name. Could this cause a conflict? I would understand it would if the actual computer name was the same but I'm not sure if having 2 computers with the same account name will cause a problem.

ETA, I can access the system over the network from the run command without issue. I have it setup so it requires a password but anytime I try to make changes, it says I need permission. Now I can change the permissions so EVERYONE has full control, but I just want to only allow my laptop to have full control. That is where I am having trouble adding it.  So how would I go about adding an account for my laptop as well as restricted accounts for other users. I'm basically trying to get rid of the "EVERYONE" permissions.
7/28/2010 11:56:47 AM EDT
[#11]



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All the usernames that might be connecting need to have an account on your the system that will be sharing a drive.  A logon type account, with password.  It isn't like WinXP where you could assign a password to a folder, the password is attached to the account, which is linked to the folder.  



If you do not have permissions to connect with password, you won't know it exists since it won't show you the folder.  



You can try running 'cmd' then \\COMPUTERNAME\SHARENAME   to see what error you get, and google can help from there.



Example:  Hold down the windows key and hit R, The run box will come up.    In the box, type in \\RAIDSYSTEMNAME\tactmaster  or whatever the systemname and share name are.  Do this from the system itself, and from another on the network.



Then try it once you have added a user account that matches whatever username is logged into the other computer.





I have two computers on the network that use the same user name . I usually just use my first name for the account name. Could this cause a conflict? I would understand it would if the actual computer name was the same but I'm not sure if having 2 computers with the same account name will cause a problem.



ETA, I can access the system over the network from the run command without issue. I have it setup so it requires a password but anytime I try to make changes, it says I need permission. Now I can change the permissions so EVERYONE has full control, but I just want to only allow my laptop to have full control. That is where I am having trouble adding it.  So how would I go about adding an account for my laptop as well as restricted accounts for other users. I'm basically trying to get rid of the "EVERYONE" permissions.


Is the notebook one of the two systems?



Look at the folder properties, if you can see the contents of it, then you are attached as a user/group with only read access.  See which groups/users have that access on the folder to guess how you are connecting.  



Are you familar with the NET command?  e.g.  net use g: \\system\share <password>  /user:Username



See if you can mount the drive by specifying the username and password.



 
7/28/2010 11:59:22 AM EDT
[#12]
FWIW, it's not a network problem just because some data involved crosses the wire (or wireless)....this is standard systems administration issue that has nothing to do with networking.
7/28/2010 11:59:40 AM EDT
[#13]
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All the usernames that might be connecting need to have an account on your the system that will be sharing a drive.  A logon type account, with password.  It isn't like WinXP where you could assign a password to a folder, the password is attached to the account, which is linked to the folder.  

If you do not have permissions to connect with password, you won't know it exists since it won't show you the folder.  

You can try running 'cmd' then \\COMPUTERNAME\SHARENAME   to see what error you get, and google can help from there.

Example:  Hold down the windows key and hit R, The run box will come up.    In the box, type in \\RAIDSYSTEMNAME\tactmaster  or whatever the systemname and share name are.  Do this from the system itself, and from another on the network.

Then try it once you have added a user account that matches whatever username is logged into the other computer.


I have two computers on the network that use the same user name . I usually just use my first name for the account name. Could this cause a conflict? I would understand it would if the actual computer name was the same but I'm not sure if having 2 computers with the same account name will cause a problem.

ETA, I can access the system over the network from the run command without issue. I have it setup so it requires a password but anytime I try to make changes, it says I need permission. Now I can change the permissions so EVERYONE has full control, but I just want to only allow my laptop to have full control. That is where I am having trouble adding it.  So how would I go about adding an account for my laptop as well as restricted accounts for other users. I'm basically trying to get rid of the "EVERYONE" permissions.

Is the notebook one of the two systems?

Look at the folder properties, if you can see the contents of it, then you are attached as a user/group with only read access.  See which groups/users have that access on the folder to guess how you are connecting.  

Are you familar with the NET command?  e.g.  net use g: \\system\share <password>  /user:Username

See if you can mount the drive by specifying the username and password.
 


Yes the notebook is one of the two. It is the one I want to have full control. I will try what you said when I get home. Thanks!
7/28/2010 12:01:12 PM EDT
[#14]
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FWIW, it's not a network problem just because some data involved crosses the wire (or wireless)....this is standard systems administration issue that has nothing to do with networking.


Thanks for clearing that up. Any advice?
7/30/2010 5:53:00 PM EDT
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FWIW, it's not a network problem just because some data involved crosses the wire (or wireless)....this is standard systems administration issue that has nothing to do with networking.




Thanks for clearing that up. Any advice?


Technically, this is a Systems Admin/PC Tech issue that relates to networking.  Since you can "see" the other system, the network infrastructure is good, and you'd be sent to the PC/Windows IT dept in a larger organization.



I've done a bit of all, mostly with network or database, but I've slugged through windows crap fixing my own annoyances.



Need an update on it.  Everything working?  What have you tried and not tried.  It is a bit difficult to do in a forum instead of looking at a system, but it is possible for something simple like this.   Worse case would be add an extra user, give him the permissions you want for that folder, and then connect with the specified user/password from the remote system.  You aren't a 20+ system shop, so I doubt you are using Active Directory for systems management.