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Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:06:26 PM EDT
[#1]
Legalize pot



Militarize the border



Set up government distribution of cocaine  (Maximum allowance of .5 gram per 48 hour period; set price at $20 to undercut traffickers)



- BG
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:06:50 PM EDT
[#2]
Lets give them a WAR they will never forget..
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:08:24 PM EDT
[#3]
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You know... there are an awful lot of veterans out there these days... combat-tested Americans who have spent time in the middle east... men who have dealt with sniper threats in all sorts of nasty places.

Countersniper operations are not a lost art.

If they follow through on this, I think the cartels are going to find that they're punching well above their weight


I could see zero running predators along the frontier and forwarding intel to Mexican federales et al.

Anyone near the border would be surveilled from above, and not necessarily on friendly terms.

AZ may own the ground, but DC owns the skies.



Lasers that burn things are cheap these days....just sayin.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:10:03 PM EDT
[#4]




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Can I carpool with anyone in Ohio going down there?




Can you swing by Florida on the way?




And Atlanta, too!
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:11:06 PM EDT
[#5]
There gonna be showen some civilian camando's down there on O'rielly.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:11:14 PM EDT
[#6]
If the mexicans commit an act of war and the kenyan usurper sides with the mexicans, would this be considered Treason in the constitutional sense?



Getting the required 2 witnesses against him would be no sweat, the halfrican jackass will adhere to and provide them with aid and comfort on national TV.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:11:21 PM EDT
[#7]
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The American public will not tolerate this. I feel that all it will take to wake the generally apathetic public is for a the Mexican snipers to start taking out people on our side of the border. It will be go time in the greatest sense.

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DC will probably try to ignore it.

News media (other than the locals and a few conservative outlets) will probably not report it.

Liberals will dismiss it as a hoax.


Yes, politics has made me a bit cynical.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:11:22 PM EDT
[#8]
tag for later
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:14:34 PM EDT
[#9]
I'm about >< this close to heading down there.  Start shooting American police across the border?  It's on.  I have lots of friends with lots of guns.  
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:18:39 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Legalize pot

Militarize the border

Set up government distribution of cocaine  (Maximum allowance of .5 gram per 48 hour period; set price at $20 to undercut traffickers)

- BG


There is some merit to this argument........  if you want to beat the cartels take away their power by reducing their market share.... cause infighting and watch them implode....... while they are fighting oneanother you can sit back and watch the carnage while confiscating their drugs and selling them to idiots for profit.... and while you are at it make sure the infighting continues with a few strategically placed hits just for shits and giggles..

Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:19:04 PM EDT
[#11]
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Mexican Cartels are getting too big for their boots.........   You can only keep prodding a sleeping bear for so long before it wakes up and bites your fucking face off.

If I were Mexican, I'd be moving my family south at double time in case this got very ugly.




This,I predict a fair amount of violence before anyone in washington starts giving a shit.A sad state of affairs to say the least.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:19:26 PM EDT
[#12]
Hmm. A week long vacation may be in order some time later this summer.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:22:11 PM EDT
[#13]
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I'm about >< this close to heading down there.  Start shooting American police across the border?  It's on.  I have lots of friends with lots of guns.  


It may be time to "fish or cut bait" as they say,a damn shame it's gone on as long as it has.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:30:20 PM EDT
[#14]
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Hmm. A week long vacation may be in order some time later this summer.


Another Minutemen project?  This time with arms?   It may come to this.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:32:12 PM EDT
[#15]
I have no doubt that if I live to 60 years old I will see a hot war in North America .
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:32:59 PM EDT
[#16]
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Hmm. A week long vacation may be in order some time later this summer.


Another Minutemen project?  This time with arms?   It may come to this.


I'm sure the federal government will find a way to throw us in jail for doing such a thing.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:36:46 PM EDT
[#17]
I'd like to go on the record and say that I fully support supplying the Nogales PD with all the helicopters, BDU's, night vision, armored vehicles, machine guns and .50 rifles they can use. Clearly, they DO have a pressing need for them.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:37:44 PM EDT
[#18]
The only reason the mexicans open their mouths is because of the wimp in the white house

Send in the Marines and end the problem
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:39:46 PM EDT
[#19]
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:45:32 PM EDT
[#20]
Drug Cartel Activity Threatens Texas Water Supplies, Lawmaker Says

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/21/drug-cartel-activity-threatens-texas-water-supplies-lawmaker-says/?test=latestnews

Drug cartel activity along the Mexican border presents serious security threats to the area's water supply system, particularly on federally-owned lands in southern Texas, a U.S. lawmaker says.

Members of the House Natural Resources Subcommittee on Water and Power held a hearing Thursday on H.R. 4719, a bill that would create a Southwest Border Region Water Task Force to monitor and assess the water supply needs of the area.

Rep. Tom McClintock, R-Calif., ranking member of the House subcommittee, told FoxNews.com that the situation needs immediate attention, particularly in light of reports that a Mexican drug cartel –– the Los Zetas –– unsuccessfully plotted to blow up the Falcon Dam along the Rio Grande last month.

"If the plot against Falcon Dam had succeeded, it would have affected more than 4 million residential customers," McClintock said Monday. "We need to focus our attention on securing these border water systems from attack by Mexican drug cartels, but also their use as a conduit for the illegal importation of drugs and people."

McClintock said he will seek to amend H.R. 4719 to alter its focus toward border security issues. As it currently stands, the legislation would establish a task force that would submit a report on the region's water supplies to Congress and would be comprised of representatives from the Department of Agriculture, the Army Corps of Engineers, the Southwest Border Regional Commission and others

According to the Houston Chronicle, Mexican and U.S. authorities were "secretly scrambling" last month to thwart a plot by the Zeta cartel to blow up Falcon Dam and unleash billions of gallons of water.

The Zeta cartel planned the attack to get back at its rival, the Gulf cartel, which controls smuggling routes from the Falcon Dam to the Gulf of Mexico, Sigifredo Gonzalez, sheriff of Texas' Zapata County, told the newspaper.

Although the Gulf Cartel was the alleged target, about 4 million residents and massive amounts of agricultural land would have been affected in the resulting massive flood, the paper reported.

Sources told the Chronicle that U.S. officials learned of the plot through "serious and reliable sources," the seizure of small amounts of dynamite near the dam and the discovery of an alert from the Zeta cartel warning Mexican residents to evacuate the area ahead of the blast.

The Mexican military then stepped up its presence in the area based in part on the U.S. intelligence, sources told the Chronicle.

McClintock said escalating violence along the Mexican border is a result of restricted access by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol agents to federal lands due to environmental regulations enforced by the Department of Interior.

"It certainly has the potential to be a serious security risk," McClintock said. "The plot by the Zeta drug cartel to blow up the Falcon Dam appeared to be quite credible. And as we have found over the years, before there is a successful attack, it is preceded by several unsuccessful attempts that clearly indicate intent. It would be utterly foolish to ignore."

The Department of Homeland Security did not immediately respond to requests for comment regarding last week's hearing.

Joan Neuhaus Schaan, fellow for homeland security and terrorism at the James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy at Rice University, told the panel that the water flow and system of dams operated by the International Boundary & Water Commission (IBWC) are critically important to Texas agriculture along the Rio Grande.

"Water rights along the border have been the basis for contentious and sometimes violent disagreements for centuries, though for the last 60 years the IBWC has provided a framework for management," Schaan said in prepared remarks. "This critical water infrastructure, however, is vulnerable to attack."

Schaan also cited reports of the alleged plot targeting the 5-mile-long Falcon Dam.

"Destroying a dam requires access, means, knowledge and motivation," Schaan's testimony continued. "Organized crime in the region has demonstrated a facility for the first three elements. The question remains as to whether these same organizations might be motivated to carry out an attack. The scenario is not inconceivable."



Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:46:03 PM EDT
[#21]
I'm already there, just need more ammo.  We'll need coolers with ice and refreshments.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:46:54 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Lets give them a WAR they will never forget..


War with Mexico!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let us counter invade this rouge state!
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:47:33 PM EDT
[#23]
We need to bring back public hangings.

Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:48:07 PM EDT
[#24]
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Can I carpool with anyone in Ohio going down there?


Yup, I will get ya.


We are goina need a bus!!

Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:48:12 PM EDT
[#25]
Sadly ,the government isn't wanting to do ANYTHING to make this situation better, outside of deciding that Mexico is ally and letting them all come up here.



Legalize pot , put troops on the boarder , build a wall , do SOMETHING.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:50:48 PM EDT
[#26]
God damn, sounds like I have to bring my friggin FAL if I want to go catch snakes in AZ again.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:52:22 PM EDT
[#27]
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Sadly ,the government isn't wanting to do ANYTHING to make this situation better, outside of deciding that Mexico is ally and letting them all come up here.

Legalize pot , put troops on the boarder , build a wall , do SOMETHING.


As has been said,  these are future voters for the libs / socialists/ commies who want to destroy America

they can't win without them

nothing will be done by Oblamba
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:54:46 PM EDT
[#28]



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God damn, sounds like I have to bring my friggin FAL if I want to go catch snakes in AZ again.


Might need something heavier than that , maybe some CAS.



 
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:55:24 PM EDT
[#29]
Wow, it's almost like the drug cartels want to undermine Obama.  He's in the middle of pushing a suit against AZ immigration law and they announce this?  Maybe they hate amnesty also?

In this case, enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:56:20 PM EDT
[#30]
I hope there is a full blown Centra Spike/ Delta Force style effort being made on the US side of things (ala Killing Pablo), and that we start seeing cartel leaders being blown up by Predator drones.  We need Los Pepes.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 4:56:40 PM EDT
[#31]
Looks like the Ohio boys are ready to show up in force!!





Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:01:25 PM EDT
[#32]
Since I haven't seen it in this thread.  Fuck Obama.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:01:52 PM EDT
[#33]



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Lets give them a WAR they will never forget..


This will happen - right or wrong in some eyes - sooner or later, its going to involve "citizens" doing what the Government doesn't have the fucking balls to do.



 
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:02:17 PM EDT
[#34]
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Looks like the Ohio boys are ready to show up in force!!









Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:03:32 PM EDT
[#35]



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Boy I better get my AR10 ready for the show


You too?  I was thinking about taking my 50 as well.



 
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:04:54 PM EDT
[#36]


I dunno, is it still considered a CoC violation to say "Kill them all!" (in regards to the Cartel)?

ETA:

If you guys need help, I got my AR, my OBR, a set of PVS-14s, multicam, etc... I think the only things I'm really missing are plates and/or a ghillie ... only catch is you Ohio guys need to stop in IL on the way through if you take 64 that way
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:05:37 PM EDT
[#37]
Just give me a fucking excuse...
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:05:57 PM EDT
[#38]
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The American public will not tolerate this. I feel that all it will take to wake the generally apathetic public is for a the Mexican snipers to start taking out people on our side of the border. It will be go time in the greatest sense.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile




Bullshit nothing will be done if it does happen by the public or anyone on this board.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:06:27 PM EDT
[#39]
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Since I haven't seen it in this thread.  Fuck Obama.


FUBO!!!
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:07:33 PM EDT
[#40]
A few gunships in the air would reduce this threat.  Nothing like miniguns to ruins someone's day.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:08:23 PM EDT
[#41]
In all likelihood, nothing will be done.

The southwest burns...and Zero fiddles.

Should Brewer call in the AZ National Guard or the local LE community decide to take matters into their own hands, I'm sure that Eric ("Ball") Holder will initiate legal action against them. Can't be disenfranchising all of those potential voters, can we? Worse yet - such action might send a message to the masses that Washington is out of touch...and out of control.

It isn't the cartels that worry me so much as who or what else may have been snuck through down there, right under our fucking noses. And probably in the company of cartel soldados who were paid a nice escort fee.
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:09:37 PM EDT
[#42]



During the Bush years, the over-sensationalizing media and over-sensitive liberals conveyed the message that the American public had no stomach for losses.  An unintended consequence is that everyone, including Mexican drug lords, think they can back us down with physical threats.  Now we have an apologetic socialist in the White House who has no one's respect.  So people who would not have dreamed of pushing us two years ago - are threatening to shoot American police officers unless they back down.





But when you spill American blood on American soil.  We pull together.  We write songs.  We get worked into a frenzy.  We make history and legends.  We invent new weapons.  It's what we do best.





The Chief of the Nogales PD should send this reply to the drug lords: "We will blow you up and post it on Youtube."





Remember the Alamo Fuckwads

 
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:11:21 PM EDT
[#43]

I think we're finally nearing the tipping point.

If these fucktards actually try anything and Zero refuses to act, I can easily envision this quickly spiraling into something major.


Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:12:05 PM EDT
[#44]
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Looks like the Ohio boys are ready to show up in force!!







Hell lets get 2 or 3 buses!  I'd love to walk into work and say " y'all can go to hell, I'm going to Arizona!"  ( I know it's supposed to be Texas, but we gotta go thru Texas to get to AZ)
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:13:51 PM EDT
[#45]



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I'm already there, just need more ammo.  We'll need coolers with ice and refreshments.


I can wrestle up about 10,000 rds of 223 or more. And I have a cooler. Can I come and play too?



we need to find an Arfcomer who has a ranch down there. Willing to put a few hundred of us up. I'd go in a heartbeat!!!!



 
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:14:34 PM EDT
[#46]
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If Nogales LE responded with force, would zero send troops in to side with the Mexicans?


My guess is he and Calderon would have a joint hunt down the Nogales LE police unit
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:21:39 PM EDT
[#47]
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I'm already there, just need more ammo.  We'll need coolers with ice and refreshments.


Corona or Dos Equis?
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:22:58 PM EDT
[#48]
WTF??

––-> ––->––->––->
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:26:01 PM EDT
[#49]
I think the USMC and Army should both have snipers assigned there regularly.  Anyone crossing the border with longarms gets their tickets punched.  An AFV should recover the body (so as to prevent counter-sniper fire).
Link Posted: 6/21/2010 5:27:38 PM EDT
[#50]
I'd love it if this thread had 0 replies.  Oh well.
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