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Anyone else find it a little disturbing that directly beyond the gunman was another patrol car and a pickup truck... I am glad the perp got what he deserved but I certainly wouldn't have wanted to be on opposite side of the bad guy. real life is a 360 degree range. There may be no "safe direction" in real life. Every time you pull the trigger you are taking a risk. Bullets do whacky stuff once they are launched. And they don't magically stay in the bad guy or stop when they get there. |
| Didn't watch the video, but I just read a bit about the incident on wiki. I'm glad that the private citizen who was killed while firing on the perpetrator was honored by the state. It's terrible to see things like that happen, but it's nice to know that there are people in the world like him |
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Anyone else find it a little disturbing that directly beyond the gunman was another patrol car and a pickup truck... I am glad the perp got what he deserved but I certainly wouldn't have wanted to be on opposite side of the bad guy. real life is a 360 degree range. |
| There's a lot of sorrow in that story. People who didn't deserve to lose their lives did, and civilians with *assault rifles* got another black mark on them. It really takes a nut job to do something like that, but it makes it that much harder to defend our rights when this kind of thing happens. |
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If I recall correctly, a bad guy killed a CCS permit holder who had tried to take him out infront of the courthouse.
Another thing, the fatal round that ended this mans misdeeds actually skipped off the bed rails of the pick-up and caught the guy in the back of the head. |
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That shooting video provides a chilling view of how vulnerable courthouses are. One would not expect such a slaughter in Texas.
I thought that headshot that ended it was amazing, a nearly impossible shot, but then someone above said it was a ricochet, which makes it fortunate but less impressive in terms of skill. Since then what have courthouses done to beef up their defenses against guys with rifles? All the bailiffs I've seen in my parts are fat old men who probably couldn't hit a barn broadside with their 1911s. I'm sure a motivated man with a rifle could easily lay waste to a place where concealed carry is prohibited, fat old bailiffs included. 
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i actually attended some training at tyler PD recently and got a direct play by play breakdown of that incident form some of the guys involved. The officer that fired the last round wasnt available but it was a very enlightening story to say the least.
I didnt think Tyler Tx was a real hardcore town with serious badguys till i started talking to their officers. They have crack houses, mexican ice, robberies, homicides, crazy people galore, ect. Its a very nice town where i would be willing to raise a family, but it really shows you not to underestimate small to medium sized town cops, even in central TX. The officer that fired that shot was actually a SWAT officer and that was his entry carbine. He probably had thousands of hours of range time, crack house raid time, and practice with that weapon, i also dont think that was his first justified shoot either. Basically he was well rehearsed for that deal. |
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RIP Mark Wilson.
Mark Alan Wilson (January 20, 1953 – February 24, 2005) was a Tyler, Texas man killed during a shooting outside the Smith County Courthouse in Tyler, Texas. He entered an ongoing gun battle between David Hernandez Arroyo Sr., who had attempted earlier to kill his wife and son, and law enforcement officers. Wilson was killed at close quarters by Arroyo after shooting and hitting Arroyo several times. Wilson had no affiliations, professional or otherwise, with law enforcement, and acted solely as a private citizen during the shootout. Arroyo was later killed by gunfire from police officers. Mark Allen Wilson, was in his downtown loft when he heard the shooting begin. He looked out his window and saw a Arroyo at the courthouse steps engaged in a shootout with law enforcement. Wilson, who held a Texas concealed handgun permit immediately armed himself with his Colt .45 caliber pistol, and left his residence to intervene in the gun battle. Because Arroyo was already engaged in a heated gun battle with sheriff's deputies and Tyler police officers, he did not see Wilson approach from behind. As Wilson approached Arroyo from behind, Arroyo was taking aim at his son who he hand already shot in the leg and wounded. Acting to defend the life of Arroyo's son, Wilson fired a round from approximately 50 feet which struck Arroyo in the back causing him to stumble and taking his attention away from his son. A witness who saw Wilson's round strike Arroyo reported seeing "white puffs of powder-like substance" come from Arroyo's clothing. This is believed to be the first time Arroyo was hit or injured during his attack on the courthouse. Wilson was forced to take cover behind Arroyo's truck in a prone position and exchanged fire with Arroyo. As Arroyo began to approach Wilson's position, he stood up from behind cover and fired again hitting Arroyo. Unknown to Wilson, Arroyo was wearing a bulletproof vest rendering Wilson's shots largely ineffective. Arroyo eventually fired a shot that struck Wilson who faltered and fell from the view of witnesses face down behind Arroyo's truck. Arroyo then fired three more shots at Wilson killing him. Mark Wilson was born and raised in Dallas, Texas and graduated from MacArthur High School in 1971. He went on to serve with distinction in the U.S. Navy. After his discharge from the military, he worked as a racquetball instructor and later opened Tyler's On Target Shooting Range in 1997. He volunteered in the community by helping to raise money for nonprofit organizations and devoting time to organizations like the Texas Blues Festival and Festival on the Square. Wilson lived in an apartment that overlooked the area where the shooting took place. In recognition of his heroism, the Texas State Rifle Association published an account of his actions. The Texas House unanimously adopted a resolution (HR. 740) on March 31, 2005 to honor Mark Wilson. |
| Wow i knew a person with ccw had been killed but i had no idea it happened like that i assumed he had just been in the wrong place wrong time. But he purposely entered the fight and could have stopped it had it not been the for the vest. Very heroic deff makes you think what would i have done. |