[ARCHIVED THREAD] - EMP... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/20/2010 6:00:12 AM EDT
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Just so you know...I am basing this question off of a game....MW2
When an EMP bomb is set of in the game, all of your electronics get fried...including your red dot sight. I understand what an EMP bomb is, but how realistic is it to have literally all of your electronic equipment become fried from one? Later, DMWalking |
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Just so you know...I am basing this question off of a game....MW2 When an EMP bomb is set of in the game, all of your electronics get fried...including your red dot sight. I understand what an EMP bomb is, but how realistic is it to have literally all of your electronic equipment become fried from one? Later, DMWalking Very. But there is only one way to find out. 
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Wow...I didn't think that I would get such a bad response. No, I am not in school, I am 25 and I am at work right now.
Basically I am just wondering if everything would be effected or just only certain equipment.........You know what, lets just forget I ever bothered to ask a question on here...how does that sound? |
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Wow...I didn't think that I would get such a bad response. No, I am not in school, I am 25 and I am at work right now. Basically I am just wondering if everything would be effected or just only certain equipment.........You know what, lets just forget I ever bothered to ask a question on here...how does that sound? O.K. This thread is now about Mustangs....no not those Mustangs, these Mustangs! 
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i actually think its a legit question even if it is based on a video game
i always thought that if an EMP was going to happen if you turned all electronics off then they wouldnt be damaged. not sure though I googled it but im to lazy to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse#Non-nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse heres an interesting part "CBS News reported that the U.S. dropped an E-bomb on Iraqi TV during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, but this has not been confirmed.[39] During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, others also have speculated that the United States military used a Tomahawk Missile with a non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse warhead on other Iraqi targets. The evidence of this occurring is that the power went out over Baghdad yet there was no physical damage to the electrical generator plant." |
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Wow...I didn't think that I would get such a bad response. No, I am not in school, I am 25 and I am at work right now. Basically I am just wondering if everything would be effected or just only certain equipment.........You know what, lets just forget I ever bothered to ask a question on here...how does that sound? O.K. This thread is now about Mustangs....no not those Mustangs, these Mustangs! http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu291/uss_monitor_2009/mustangs/Mustang2ship-gessert.jpg   Holy Shit that made me laugh.... Thanks, I needed that.
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Did you just get finished reading "One second after"? ETA: Oh, I see.... You saw it in a video game.... OK, it's cool. I always come to AR when I have questions about what happens in my video games... (Insert massive sarcasm here)... Jebus help us all.... 
I have known about EMP bombs for much longer than when the video game came out. I guess I deserve to get flamed for posting about a video game?  I was really only trying to use it as an example.
Can anyone actually answer my question or am I just going to get flamed until I drop it completely? Later, DMWalking |
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i actually think its a legit question even if it is based on a video game i always thought that if an EMP was going to happen if you turned all electronics off then they wouldnt be damaged. not sure though I googled it but im to lazy to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse#Non-nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse heres an interesting part "CBS News reported that the U.S. dropped an E-bomb on Iraqi TV during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, but this has not been confirmed.[39] During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, others also have speculated that the United States military used a Tomahawk Missile with a non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse warhead on other Iraqi targets. The evidence of this occurring is that the power went out over Baghdad yet there was no physical damage to the electrical generator plant." It wasn't intended to be based off of a video game....I was trying to use it as an example. From what I understand, your electronics will get fried even if they are shut off. An EMP is a major fluctuation in the earths magnetic field that causes wires and what not, to get a very large electrical charge that will fry sensitive electronic devices. It simply doesn't make a difference whether it's on or off. Thanks for taking my question seriously though. I guess that I am mainly wondering how it would impact the USA as a whole? I know that a Nuclear EMP will produce the strongest EMP pulse and if it is detonated high enough, it could effect the entire USA. How Devastating would it be? How prepared is our government for such an attack? |
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i actually think its a legit question even if it is based on a video game i always thought that if an EMP was going to happen if you turned all electronics off then they wouldnt be damaged. not sure though I googled it but im to lazy to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse#Non-nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse heres an interesting part "CBS News reported that the U.S. dropped an E-bomb on Iraqi TV during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, but this has not been confirmed.[39] During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, others also have speculated that the United States military used a Tomahawk Missile with a non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse warhead on other Iraqi targets. The evidence of this occurring is that the power went out over Baghdad yet there was no physical damage to the electrical generator plant." It wasn't intended to be based off of a video game....I was trying to use it as an example. From what I understand, your electronics will get fried even if they are shut off. An EMP is a major fluctuation in the earths magnetic field that causes wires and what not, to get a very large electrical charge that will fry sensitive electronic devices. It simply doesn't make a difference whether it's on or off. Thanks for taking my question seriously though. I guess that I am mainly wondering how it would impact the USA as a whole? I know that a Nuclear EMP will produce the strongest EMP pulse and if it is detonated high enough, it could effect the entire USA. How Devastating would it be? How prepared is our government for such an attack? From the little I know it all depends on the yeild of the bomb and altitude. Higher up it can spread over a larger area. I would think that a lot of vital equipment would be shielded from this. |
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Wow...I didn't think that I would get such a bad response. No, I am not in school, I am 25 and I am at work right now. Basically I am just wondering if everything would be effected or just only certain equipment.........You know what, lets just forget I ever bothered to ask a question on here...how does that sound? Dont get butthurt just because not everyone jumped at your question. You asked this in GD. Try maybe the survival forum instead. |
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i actually think its a legit question even if it is based on a video game i always thought that if an EMP was going to happen if you turned all electronics off then they wouldnt be damaged. not sure though I googled it but im to lazy to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse#Non-nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse heres an interesting part "CBS News reported that the U.S. dropped an E-bomb on Iraqi TV during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, but this has not been confirmed.[39] During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, others also have speculated that the United States military used a Tomahawk Missile with a non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse warhead on other Iraqi targets. The evidence of this occurring is that the power went out over Baghdad yet there was no physical damage to the electrical generator plant." It wasn't intended to be based off of a video game....I was trying to use it as an example. From what I understand, your electronics will get fried even if they are shut off. An EMP is a major fluctuation in the earths magnetic field that causes wires and what not, to get a very large electrical charge that will fry sensitive electronic devices. It simply doesn't make a difference whether it's on or off. Thanks for taking my question seriously though. I guess that I am mainly wondering how it would impact the USA as a whole? I know that a Nuclear EMP will produce the strongest EMP pulse and if it is detonated high enough, it could effect the entire USA. How Devastating would it be? How prepared is our government for such an attack? From the little I know it all depends on the yeild of the bomb and altitude. Higher up it can spread over a larger area. I would think that a lot of vital equipment would be shielded from this. Let just hope so.....for instance...Jets/planes. We don't want those suddenly falling out of the sky. Bank account information....suddenly gone, wall-street all gone. It could be very devastating. |
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Wow...I didn't think that I would get such a bad response. No, I am not in school, I am 25 and I am at work right now. Basically I am just wondering if everything would be effected or just only certain equipment.........You know what, lets just forget I ever bothered to ask a question on here...how does that sound? Dont get butthurt just because not everyone jumped at your question. You asked this in GD. Try maybe the survival forum instead. Good point. As you can see, I am new hear. My bad |
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i actually think its a legit question even if it is based on a video game i always thought that if an EMP was going to happen if you turned all electronics off then they wouldnt be damaged. not sure though I googled it but im to lazy to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse#Non-nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse heres an interesting part "CBS News reported that the U.S. dropped an E-bomb on Iraqi TV during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, but this has not been confirmed.[39] During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, others also have speculated that the United States military used a Tomahawk Missile with a non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse warhead on other Iraqi targets. The evidence of this occurring is that the power went out over Baghdad yet there was no physical damage to the electrical generator plant." It wasn't intended to be based off of a video game....I was trying to use it as an example. From what I understand, your electronics will get fried even if they are shut off. An EMP is a major fluctuation in the earths magnetic field that causes wires and what not, to get a very large electrical charge that will fry sensitive electronic devices. It simply doesn't make a difference whether it's on or off. Thanks for taking my question seriously though. I guess that I am mainly wondering how it would impact the USA as a whole? I know that a Nuclear EMP will produce the strongest EMP pulse and if it is detonated high enough, it could effect the entire USA. How Devastating would it be? How prepared is our government for such an attack? EMP is a vastly overrated threat. It won't kill your aimpoint. It probably won't kill your late model car. EMP requires a bomb of just the right size set off at just the right altitude (which may change day to day) At which point it may or may not have a devastating effect, depending on forces out of your control. EMP is generated by any nuclear bomb, but requires one to be detonated outside of the atmosphere for long range effects. In the atmosphere, anything fried by EMP will get vaporized by the blast a few microseconds later. |
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What about my gun safe with the digital keypad?  That never made sense to me, you do have a secondary way of opening it right? As far as EMPs go unless you are right under the EMP I dont think small electronics will be effected. The most effected things may be items plugged into walls (as the electrical wires pick up extra juice or brown out if your power goes out), with antennas, etc. A gun safe might have a large surface area, but I dont know if it would absorb enough juice to cook the electronics. |
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Wow...I didn't think that I would get such a bad response. No, I am not in school, I am 25 and I am at work right now. Basically I am just wondering if everything would be effected or just only certain equipment.........You know what, lets just forget I ever bothered to ask a question on here...how does that sound? Dont get butthurt just because not everyone jumped at your question. You asked this in GD. Try maybe the survival forum instead. Good point. As you can see, I am new hear. My bad Its not problem dude. Just dont get upset about what I posted in GD. Its not the wild wild west here on GD but it can get ugly. Check out the survival forum under outdoors. |
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What about my gun safe with the digital keypad? That never made sense to me, you do have a secondary way of opening it right? As far as EMPs go unless you are right under the EMP I dont think small electronics will be effected. The most effected things may be items plugged into walls (as the electrical wires pick up extra juice or brown out if your power goes out), with antennas, etc. A gun safe might have a large surface area, but I dont know if it would absorb enough juice to cook the electronics. Pry Bar ? |
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EMPs (like those from a nuke) only effect items hooked up to the things that can act like long antennas (i.e. power lines) When the US did off one of their nukes back in the day, street lights went out 800 miles away but radio equipment right near the blast was fine. There was also a most recent test where they took a bunch of vehicles, I believe they were models from 1985 to present, after an EMP strength test, all passed when turned off, all except 2 passed when they were running, and even those 2 just needed to be restarted. |
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EMPs (like those from a nuke) only effect items hooked up to the things that can act like long antennas (i.e. power lines) When the US did off one of their nukes back in the day, street lights went out 800 miles away but radio equipment right near the blast was fine. There was also a most recent test where they took a bunch of vehicles, I believe they were models from 1985 to present, after an EMP strength test, all passed when turned off, all except 2 passed when they were running, and even those 2 just needed to be restarted. This. Also, that famous test that killed the street lights? The only think it killed was those street lights, as far as I know. Again, EMP is not exactly a predictable way to screw shit up. |
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Quoted: EMPs (like those from a nuke) only effect items hooked up to the things that can act like long antennas (i.e. power lines) When the US did off one of their nukes back in the day, street lights went out 800 miles away but radio equipment right near the blast was fine. There was also a most recent test where they took a bunch of vehicles, I believe they were models from 1985 to present, after an EMP strength test, all passed when turned off, all except 2 passed when they were running, and even those 2 just needed to be restarted. |
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EMPs (like those from a nuke) only effect items hooked up to the things that can act like long antennas (i.e. power lines) When the US did off one of their nukes back in the day, street lights went out 800 miles away but radio equipment right near the blast was fine. There was also a most recent test where they took a bunch of vehicles, I believe they were models from 1985 to present, after an EMP strength test, all passed when turned off, all except 2 passed when they were running, and even those 2 just needed to be restarted. This. Also, that famous test that killed the street lights? The only think it killed was those street lights, as far as I know. Again, EMP is not exactly a predictable way to screw shit up. So really the odds that an EMP bomb would bring the USA to it's knees is quite low. |
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The way I understand it the shorter the wiring inside or that an item is connected to the less chance of damage,
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EMPs (like those from a nuke) only effect items hooked up to the things that can act like long antennas (i.e. power lines) When the US did off one of their nukes back in the day, street lights went out 800 miles away but radio equipment right near the blast was fine. There was also a most recent test where they took a bunch of vehicles, I believe they were models from 1985 to present, after an EMP strength test, all passed when turned off, all except 2 passed when they were running, and even those 2 just needed to be restarted. This. Also, that famous test that killed the street lights? The only think it killed was those street lights, as far as I know. Again, EMP is not exactly a predictable way to screw shit up. So really the odds that an EMP bomb would bring the USA to it's knees is quite low. Pretty much. Terrorists with a nuke they use to cause EMP? Frankly, fictional poppycock. Prepping for the rise of the zombies is a more useful exercise. EMP as part of a full on nuclear exchange? Much more possible, but at that point, your fucked either way. |
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i actually think its a legit question even if it is based on a video game i always thought that if an EMP was going to happen if you turned all electronics off then they wouldnt be damaged. not sure though I googled it but im to lazy to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse#Non-nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse heres an interesting part "CBS News reported that the U.S. dropped an E-bomb on Iraqi TV during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, but this has not been confirmed.[39] During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, others also have speculated that the United States military used a Tomahawk Missile with a non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse warhead on other Iraqi targets. The evidence of this occurring is that the power went out over Baghdad yet there was no physical damage to the electrical generator plant." It wasn't intended to be based off of a video game....I was trying to use it as an example. From what I understand, your electronics will get fried even if they are shut off. An EMP is a major fluctuation in the earths magnetic field that causes wires and what not, to get a very large electrical charge that will fry sensitive electronic devices. It simply doesn't make a difference whether it's on or off. Thanks for taking my question seriously though. I guess that I am mainly wondering how it would impact the USA as a whole? I know that a Nuclear EMP will produce the strongest EMP pulse and if it is detonated high enough, it could effect the entire USA. How Devastating would it be? How prepared is our government for such an attack? Welcome to GD. Don't feel bad, it's normal to have to sift through crap to get what you are looking for. To answer your question, first off I am no expert, but I work in the electronics field and have a little understanding of EMP. . It all depends on the size and altitude of the EMP detonated, as well as how well protected your equipment is. The reality is, unless its entombed in lead, and close enough to the EMP, it will be destroyed permanently. We aren't talking explosions, but catastrophic data loss. As for government preparation, are they ever prepared for anything beside removing money from your check? |
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The Pusle basically destroys newfangled equipment in two ways (Transistors especially): by destroying the NPN or PNP gates in solid state equipment by creating an artificial "High-Ground" where electron flow runs opposite from what it normally does at high enough voltage where the gate is basically turned into a simple wire. And by creating especially high voltage/Amperage in places where extreme electronic current shouldn't exist, such as power lines where they can have heat generated to the point that some may fail.
Damage is directly proportionate to antenna length, thus the itty bitty wires in your cell phone will possibly go untouched, but the power transformer which has extremely long wires that wrap hundreds or thousands of times on each inductor in the transformer will be severely damaged. Coil upon coil will be shorted to each other and possibly across. Also the Cell Phone tower is an awesome antenna will probably either be permanantly shorted to ground or permanantly open, thus no worky. If you have no power to the tower, and a shot tower, your cellphone probably won't work. Your EOTech and Aimpoint would probably work fine, until the batteries ran out. Cars would be okay. Your home generator might be messed up and the power service to your home most definitely would if the Transformers were zapped. To get the EMP effect you need a very big bomb at a very high altitude (Above the Ionosphere) or it does not work. This is lightyears beyond anything few countries on our planet are capable of. Sure the day is coming that we may have to worry about it, but that day probably isn't in my lifetime. Is that more along the lines of what you were looking for? |
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Quoted: Just so you know...I am basing this question off of a game....MW2 When an EMP bomb is set of in the game, all of your electronics get fried...including your red dot sight. I understand what an EMP bomb is, but how realistic is it to have literally all of your electronic equipment become fried from one? Later, DMWalking It's a game... An extremely unrealistic arcade game... IRL, there is no such thing as an 'EMP Bomb' - the only practical way to generate a wide-area EMP is with a high-altitude nuclear detonation. It's a capability that requires ICBMs or SLBMs, and fairly advanced nuclear capability - far out of reach of 1st-gen nuke states like North Korea or Iran - and definitely impossible for terror groups at present. |