Posted: 5/13/2010 6:48:02 PM EDT
I've got a troy built ZTR mower (pretty sure it's a MTD knockoff). It threw the belt that drives the hydrostats. Belt is seperated and almost broke in two. Anyway, the OEM part # is 954-04043A. Anybody happen to know the size of that or someway to cross reference it ? (It's a 1/2" V belt) OEM wants $30-50 everywhere I've looked on the internet. If I knew the length I'd just go to the Tractor Supply and get one for about $8-10. Any help would be appreciated!
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Gimmie a minute.....
ETA: It's 57.75" long. http://www.stens.com/dealernet/catalog.html ETA2: their site sucks and the link won't take you there.... Part No.- Description Specs Pack Size 265-211 Oem Spec Belt MTD 954-04043A Application: Drive Length: 57 3/4" Type: Covered Width: 1/2" The stens part number is 265-211, and nobody other than OEM will have a 57.75" belt. True Blue 1/2" belts only come in 1" increments AFAIK. Stens wants $22.67. You might be able to get set up with them as a dealer and get it for 50-75% of that. |
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Wow, that was fast! I take it you just get a 58" then? The idler would surely take up 1/4" of slack? Thanks! |
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mfgsupply.com has a 58" for 7.95 plus shipping.
http://www.mfgsupply.com/m/c/12-5091.html |
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Thanks! While I can't wait for shipping (grass will be so high by then I'll burn up the deck drive belt) at least I know what a belt that size ought to cost. OEM mark up is friggin ridiculous 
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Not sure about that particular belt but you should be aware that if it is one of the cloth-wrapped belts then it will cost a lot more than a typical v-belt. And the cloth wrap has a purpose.
I don't know if it is critical to your application but just substituting a belt of the same cross-section and length may not work as well as you would like. I think the cloth-covered belts are usually found where the belt is used as a clutch. For example, a rototiller where an idler-tensioner is moved to cause the belt to grip or release. If this is what your belt is set up to do then you may need to get the correct type of belt. Just some background.... |
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Not sure about that particular belt but you should be aware that if it is one of the cloth-wrapped belts then it will cost a lot more than a typical v-belt. And the cloth wrap has a purpose. I don't know if it is critical to your application but just substituting a belt of the same cross-section and length may not work as well as you would like. I think the cloth-covered belts are usually found where the belt is used as a clutch. For example, a rototiller where an idler-tensioner is moved to cause the belt to grip or release. If this is what your belt is set up to do then you may need to get the correct type of belt. Just some background.... I believe this particular belt is in constant motion. It drives the hydrostats. The deck drive, OTOH, is intermittantly stopped/started by an electric clutch. |
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Using the wrong belt will eat up the pulleys...and that $7 belt will turn into $100+ worth of pulleys. Elaborate if you will. By wrong, do you mean the extra 1/4" of the non-OEM belt, or the belt construction? ETA, I understand that somtimes companies bastardize their parts so you have to buy from them exclusively, like this fractional sized belt. |
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Not sure about that particular belt but you should be aware that if it is one of the cloth-wrapped belts then it will cost a lot more than a typical v-belt. And the cloth wrap has a purpose. I don't know if it is critical to your application but just substituting a belt of the same cross-section and length may not work as well as you would like. I think the cloth-covered belts are usually found where the belt is used as a clutch. For example, a rototiller where an idler-tensioner is moved to cause the belt to grip or release. If this is what your belt is set up to do then you may need to get the correct type of belt. Just some background.... I believe this particular belt is in constant motion. It drives the hydrostats. The deck drive, OTOH, is intermittantly stopped/started by an electric clutch. Ok, then it may be just a plain v-belt. Describe what it looks like-if it appears to be wrapped in glued-on gauze then it's the fabric covered type. Pics would help. But I agree that it a hydro drive belt probably doesn't use the belt as a clutch. That's just one situation I remember where they are used, but I am not a mower doc. Also, how much adjustment room do you have? That 1/4 inch difference might make or break the deal when you try to put it on. I hate bastards that do this (make things unique to capture the parts business) but sometimes they do it so well that you have no realistic choice (bastards!) Aside from the belt construction issue above, the belt section (how wide it is) could be special as well. Simple answer I guess is to take the old belt to tractor supply like others have suggested. They should know what they're doing. Don't go to an auto parts store unless it's one with old-timers on the staff who know more than to ask "what year and model".... |
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Not sure about that particular belt but you should be aware that if it is one of the cloth-wrapped belts then it will cost a lot more than a typical v-belt. And the cloth wrap has a purpose. I don't know if it is critical to your application but just substituting a belt of the same cross-section and length may not work as well as you would like. I think the cloth-covered belts are usually found where the belt is used as a clutch. For example, a rototiller where an idler-tensioner is moved to cause the belt to grip or release. If this is what your belt is set up to do then you may need to get the correct type of belt. Just some background.... I believe this particular belt is in constant motion. It drives the hydrostats. The deck drive, OTOH, is intermittantly stopped/started by an electric clutch. Ok, then it may be just a plain v-belt. Describe what it looks like-if it appears to be wrapped in glued-on gauze then it's the fabric covered type. Pics would help. But I agree that it a hydro drive belt probably doesn't use the belt as a clutch. That's just one situation I remember where they are used, but I am not a mower doc. Also, how much adjustment room do you have? That 1/4 inch difference might make or break the deal when you try to put it on. I hate bastards that do this (make things unique to capture the parts business) but sometimes they do it so well that you have no realistic choice (bastards!) Aside from the belt construction issue above, the belt section (how wide it is) could be special as well. Simple answer I guess is to take the old belt to tractor supply like others have suggested. They should know what they're doing. Don't go to an auto parts store unless it's one with old-timers on the staff who know more than to ask "what year and model".... I have an idler/tensioner that accepts a 3/8" drive to give some slack when putting on the belt. As for it's construction, it looked like your run of the mill black rubber. They do have kevlar belts that aren't that much more expensive though. |
