Posted: 4/27/2010 2:21:47 PM EDT
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At approximately 0447 hours, officers with the College Station Police Department responded to a call of an aggravated robbery that had just occurred in the 900 block of Azalea. Upon arrival, officers made contact with the victim. The victim told police that he was returning to his vehicle after studying at a friend’s house. He said that as he approached his vehicle, he heard a loud noise and saw a black male approach him from the rear of his truck. He said that the suspect pointed an object towards him and demanded his money. After the victim gave his wallet to the suspect, the suspect then ordered the victim to “take off running.” The suspect also threatened to shoot the victim if he stopped. The victim called his friend as he ran away and his friend then notified the police department. The victim was not injured during the incident. Say the victim was carrying at the time. Would he be justified in drawing and shooting the criminal or must he draw, warn said criminal, then shoot... because I'm thinking the criminal isn't going to wait for you to warn him and might open fire the second he sees a gun... But then again is it really worth making the situation worse over a wallet... (I believe it is) |
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I wouldn't give a warning, even if it was required by law, why am I as a free man, suppose to quiver at the hands of an aggressor who could potentially end my life? I may not be the toughest guy on the block, but I don't just lie down.
What if you gave him the wallet and he shoots you anyway? I rather go down with the slide locked back because I emptied the mag toward said individual then laying in a puddle of tears and hope |
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Atapproximately 0447 hours, officers with the College Station Police Departmentresponded to a call of an aggravated robbery that had just occurred in the 900block of Azalea. Upon arrival, officers made contact with the victim. Thevictim told police that he was returning to his vehicle after studying at a friend’shouse. He said that as he approached his vehicle, he heard a loud noiseand saw a black male approach him from the rear of his truck. He saidthat the suspect pointed an object towards him and demanded his money. After the victim gave his wallet to the suspect, the suspect then ordered thevictim to “take off running.” The suspect also threatened toshoot the victim if he stopped. The victim called his friend as he ranaway and his friend then notified the police department. The victim wasnot injured during the incident.
Say the victim was carrying at the time. Would he be justified in drawing and shooting the criminal or must he draw, warn said criminal, then shoot... because I'm thinking the criminal isn't going to wait for you to warn him and might open fire the second he sees a gun... But then again is it really worth making the situation worse over a wallet... (I believe it is) Never draw when drawn down on. Get some cover, draw, do what needs to be done. As far as that situation: If the guy robbing me gets killed because of his poor victim selection, so be it. BSW |
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Quoted: Atapproximately 0447 hours, officers with the College Station Police Departmentresponded to a call of an aggravated robbery that had just occurred in the 900block of Azalea. Upon arrival, officers made contact with the victim. Thevictim told police that he was returning to his vehicle after studying at a friend’shouse. He said that as he approached his vehicle, he heard a loud noise and saw a black male approach him from the rear of his truck. He said that the suspect pointed an object towards him and demanded his money. After the victim gave his wallet to the suspect, the suspect then ordered thevictim to “take off running.” The suspect also threatened to shoot the victim if he stopped. The victim called his friend as he ranaway and his friend then notified the police department. The victim wasnot injured during the incident. Say the victim was carrying at the time. Would he be justified in drawing and shooting the criminal or must he draw, warn said criminal, then shoot... because I'm thinking the criminal isn't going to wait for you to warn him and might open fire the second he sees a gun... But then again is it really worth making the situation worse over a wallet... (I believe it is)
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Atapproximately 0447 hours, officers with the College Station Police Departmentresponded to a call of an aggravated robbery that had just occurred in the 900block of Azalea. Upon arrival, officers made contact with the victim. Thevictim told police that he was returning to his vehicle after studying at a friend’shouse. He said that as he approached his vehicle, he heard a loud noiseand saw a black male approach him from the rear of his truck. He saidthat the suspect pointed an object towards him and demanded his money. After the victim gave his wallet to the suspect, the suspect then ordered thevictim to “take off running.” The suspect also threatened toshoot the victim if he stopped. The victim called his friend as he ranaway and his friend then notified the police department. The victim wasnot injured during the incident.
Say the victim was carrying at the time. Would he be justified in drawing and shooting the criminal or must he draw, warn said criminal, then shoot... because I'm thinking the criminal isn't going to wait for you to warn him and might open fire the second he sees a gun... But then again is it really worth making the situation worse over a wallet... (I believe it is) Never draw when drawn down on. Get some cover, draw, do what needs to be done. As far as that situation: If the guy robbing me gets killed because of his poor victim selection, so be it. BSW it is called "beating the drop"....and it has been done....I have proved that I can do it...I can also show people how to do it......sometimes there is no cover ...and sometimes you can tell by their words or actions that no matter what you do they are going to shoot you..... it does not win a gun fight...but it is one of many tools that can be used to win a gun fight...in some circumstances |
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Atapproximately 0447 hours, officers with the College Station Police Departmentresponded to a call of an aggravated robbery that had just occurred in the 900block of Azalea. Upon arrival, officers made contact with the victim. Thevictim told police that he was returning to his vehicle after studying at a friend’shouse. He said that as he approached his vehicle, he heard a loud noiseand saw a black male approach him from the rear of his truck. He saidthat the suspect pointed an object towards him and demanded his money. After the victim gave his wallet to the suspect, the suspect then ordered thevictim to “take off running.” The suspect also threatened toshoot the victim if he stopped. The victim called his friend as he ranaway and his friend then notified the police department. The victim wasnot injured during the incident.
Say the victim was carrying at the time. Would he be justified in drawing and shooting the criminal or must he draw, warn said criminal, then shoot... because I'm thinking the criminal isn't going to wait for you to warn him and might open fire the second he sees a gun... But then again is it really worth making the situation worse over a wallet... (I believe it is) Never draw when drawn down on. Get some cover, draw, do what needs to be done. As far as that situation: If the guy robbing me gets killed because of his poor victim selection, so be it. BSW it is called "beating the drop"....and it has been done....I have proved that I can do it...I can also show people how to do it......sometimes there is no cover ...and sometimes you can tell by their words or actions that no matter what you do they are going to shoot you..... it does not win a gun fight...but it is one of many tools that can be used to win a gun fight...in some circumstances I agree with never say never. You should always mvoe to cover or just plain move when you draw. I never practice with my handgun at the range any more. It trains you to stand still and fire. Not good idea. As far as justified. as soon as you see a weapon or the perp initiates a forcable felony you are able to defend your self and in most cases others as well. |
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But what if what he's holding is not a weapon? It makes me think of the scene in Gran Torino when they cart of the gang members for shooting Walt when he went for his lighter. Obviously I'm not gonna play around because even if it is a weapon, I'm certainly going to be in fear for my life. |
| I know a guy who faced the same situation when he was going to school in College Station. Except instead of a gun, the would be robber had two friends. So the guy I know busted the first guy's head open on the grille guard of his truck, causing the other two to run. I have no reason to doubt this story because this guy is 6'5" and seems like he could be one mean mofo. |
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But what if what he's holding is not a weapon? It makes me think of the scene in Gran Torino when they cart of the gang members for shooting Walt when he went for his lighter. Obviously I'm not gonna play around because even if it is a weapon, I'm certainly going to be in fear for my life. If you are being robbed and the suspect is pointing an "object" at you it is perfectly reasonable to assume it is a gun...what else would he be pointing at you? It would logically be a weapon of some sort....And even if it is not a weapon based on his actions he is trying to make you think it is a weapon and put you in fear of your life so he can relieve you of your wallet. And the scene from Gran Torino bothered me. Based on the previous actions of Eastwoods character, gun related and threats made to the "gangsters"; and then the end scene when he points his finger simulating a gun and then with the motion he makes while pulling out the shiny lighter...well a reasonable person could believe that he was drawing a weapon. |