[ARCHIVED THREAD] - An odd feeling (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/17/2010 1:46:14 PM EDT
I just sold my last Glock and picked up an M&P 9. I won't be the last to do so either I bet  Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Americans are improving the pistols that Austrians won't. Precisely. Technology moved forward and Glock didn't even though they were in a perfect position to do so. excuse the neophyte question, but what did the US co's do that Glock should've done (other than make their guns not explode)? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Americans are improving the pistols that Austrians won't. Precisely. Technology moved forward and Glock didn't even though they were in a perfect position to do so. excuse the neophyte question, but what did the US co's do that Glock should've done (other than make their guns not explode)? The M&Ps interchangable grip system was no surprise when it came out. Glock ignored it, then later pulled a "me too" that by all reports I've heard is sloppy and basically a step down even from their old grip. The nonstandard grip angle of the Glock pretty well ensured that it is, for many, an "all or nothing" deal. Either you get comfortable with the Glock, or with everything else. The polygonal rifling is, IMO, a drawback. The M&P was introduced with standard rifling, enabling easier use of lead bullets. The ambi mag release on the S&W is a good thing. Doesn't affect me at all, but it's still an improvement. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Americans are improving the pistols that Austrians won't. Precisely. Technology moved forward and Glock didn't even though they were in a perfect position to do so. excuse the neophyte question, but what did the US co's do that Glock should've done (other than make their guns not explode)? The M&Ps interchangable grip system was no surprise when it came out. Glock ignored it, then later pulled a "me too" that by all reports I've heard is sloppy and basically a step down even from their old grip. The nonstandard grip angle of the Glock pretty well ensured that it is, for many, an "all or nothing" deal. Either you get comfortable with the Glock, or with everything else. The polygonal rifling is, IMO, a drawback. The M&P was introduced with standard rifling, enabling easier use of lead bullets. The ambi mag release on the S&W is a good thing. Doesn't affect me at all, but it's still an improvement. That is pretty much it. I was also able to get a factory threaded barrel. |
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I think of my M&P9 as a "product-improved Glock 17". http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/vanilla_gorilla911/guns001.jpg You can "think" that all you want........ |
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I think of my M&P9 as a "product-improved Glock 17". http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/vanilla_gorilla911/guns001.jpg You can "think" that all you want........ I've been a die hard Glock guy for years. Over 150k rounds through glocks of various flavors in IDPA, USPSA, and classes. If the first time I shoot an M&P I improve my split times and don't drop accuracy then I'd say its better. Nothing wrong with Glocks, but the M&P has improvements. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I won't buy another pistol with interchangeable backstraps,they always seem to shift slightly with a firm grip.I don't know why,but that bugs the shit out of me,The last one I had was a HK45,It was a good gun,but that grip drove me crazy. Out of the 4 M&Ps I've shot and 3 I've bought, the grips haven't moved the tiniest bit Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: Quoted: I think of my M&P9 as a "product-improved Glock 17". http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/vanilla_gorilla911/guns001.jpg You can "think" that all you want........ From my post up above. The M&Ps interchangable grip system was no surprise when it came out. Glock ignored it, then later pulled a "me too" that by all reports I've heard is sloppy and basically a step down even from their old grip. The nonstandard grip angle of the Glock pretty well ensured that it is, for many, an "all or nothing" deal. Either you get comfortable with the Glock, or with everything else. The polygonal rifling is, IMO, a drawback. The M&P was introduced with standard rifling, enabling easier use of lead bullets. The ambi mag release on the S&W is a good thing. Doesn't affect me at all, but it's still an improvement. I anxiously await any valid counterpoints you may have to offer. |
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I won't buy another pistol with interchangeable backstraps,they always seem to shift slightly with a firm grip.I don't know why,but that bugs the shit out of me,The last one I had was a HK45,It was a good gun,but that grip drove me crazy. Out of the 4 M&Ps I've shot and 3 I've bought, the grips haven't moved the tiniest bit Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The only two pistols I have noticed that on was the HK45 and a XD,I have never handled the M&P or the new gen glocks so I can't speak for those.Its a minor nitpick I know but It does throw me off.I will have to check out a M&P. |
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I really like the M&P 9 that my wife uses. If it wasn't such a pussy caliber I might be tempted to get one myself. 
then get one in .40, .357sig, or .45. i like my M&P9 and 9c.  I've considered the .45. I wouldn't go for either of the other two as it's just more ammo to stockpile. 
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I don't really like my M&P. It has a very generic feel to it. Like holding a hammer. Feel doesn't always equate to performance. I like the feel of the largest grip but am faster on target and follow up shots with the smaller grip. The timer doesn't lie. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: The M&Ps interchangable grip system was no surprise when it came out. Glock ignored it, then later pulled a "me too" that by all reports I've heard is sloppy and basically a step down even from their old grip. Interchangeable Grips are nothing more than a marketing gimmick. The 1-3mm difference is so small it is not even worthy of serious consideration. I would bet most users never even try the other backstraps. The nonstandard grip angle of the Glock pretty well ensured that it is, for many, an "all or nothing" deal. Either you get comfortable with the Glock, or with everything else. Glock's grip angle is only a "problem" for a small group of American shooters. Most Glock users either love the grip angle, or don't know enough to care. The polygonal rifling is, IMO, a drawback. The M&P was introduced with standard rifling, enabling easier use of lead bullets. Only on Arfcom GD would polygonal rifling be considered a "drawback."  Polygonal rifling has numerous advantages to land and groove Ballard rifling (longer service life/better gas seal leading to higher velocity/better accuracy due to less bullet deformation/easier cleaning.) The only reason other pistol manufactures don't use it, is because Ballard rifling is cheaper and easier to produce.The ambi mag release on the S&W is a good thing. Doesn't affect me at all, but it's still an improvement. The M&P does not have an ambidextrous mag catch. |