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3/5/2010 6:23:29 AM EDT
The new Final Fantasy is getting released next week(anyone else excited? ), so I have been playing some of the past Final Fantasy games recently. I popped in FF8, and was reminded about the "Gunsword". Why don't these exist? Seems like one awesome blend of Western and Japanese culture.

For those of you unfamiliar with the "Gunsword", here is a pic for reference.


But seriously though, I would buy a fully functional one. The sword doesnt necessarily need to be full length, perhaps just a long fixed blade knife style would work just as well I would think.

And yes I know bayonets exist, this is slightly different.
3/5/2010 6:28:02 AM EDT
[#1]
The Gun / Knife / Sword / Thing... goes way, way back.

Like back all the way to the earliest firearms.



I've seen it discussed much in the knife community...

but I've really never heard the whole reason for the combination explained.

I'm not sure there is a reason, or if there ever was a reason, that anyone actually knows what it is.


3/5/2010 6:29:45 AM EDT
[#2]
No thanks.  I'll stick with my bolt pistol and chainsword.
3/5/2010 6:31:00 AM EDT
[#3]
The problem is that the sort of grip needed to use a blade and that needed to use a firearm are quite different and to a large degree mutually exclusive.
3/5/2010 6:32:36 AM EDT
[#4]
They can has over-compensating?
3/5/2010 6:32:46 AM EDT
[#5]
Not a new idea

3/5/2010 6:36:41 AM EDT
[#6]





Those are kinda cool

 
3/5/2010 6:39:11 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:


Those are kinda cool  


Google image, "gun sword" or "gun axe", etc.  There was a lot of interesting weapons like these.
3/5/2010 6:39:47 AM EDT
[#8]




































And some more crazy shit here: http://www.flayderman.com/



 
3/5/2010 6:42:50 AM EDT
[#9]
Holy crap, it's being released next week?

Good thing you told me...
3/5/2010 6:43:04 AM EDT
[#10]
wow that is some really neat stuff I had absolutely NO IDEA existed! cool looking collectors items there

Quoted:
Holy crap, it's being released next week?

Good thing you told me...


lol yea, pre-ordered with release day shipping from Amazon. Will be in my mail when I get off work
3/5/2010 6:43:22 AM EDT
[#11]
This is too cool...






SWEDISH MODEL 1865” DOUBLE BARRELED
PERCUSSION,
COMBINATION KNIFE-PISTOL (also termed “cutlass-pistol”).  
A solidly
made,
sturdy, combination weapon made under contract for the Swedish
government and
officially known as a “HANGER-PISTOL FOR PRISON PERSONNEL” (or in
more
apt English terms a “Prison Warder’s Cutlass-Pistol”).  20”
overall
weighing 2 ½ pounds.  The 14” single edged, broad blade (2”
at widest) with a 4 inch round barrel mounted on each side of the
blade (each .41 caliber with rifled bores).


 
3/5/2010 6:43:53 AM EDT
[#12]
Farscape had the best "gunsword"  
3/5/2010 6:44:41 AM EDT
[#13]


3/5/2010 6:45:23 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
The problem is that the sort of grip needed to use a blade and that needed to use a firearm are quite different and to a large degree mutually exclusive.


Sure about that?

3/5/2010 6:46:16 AM EDT
[#15]
In the Opie thread  on Page 16 I posted a pic of a Cutlass pistol made by colt in the mid-1800s
3/5/2010 6:46:28 AM EDT
[#16]





Holy crap


 
3/5/2010 6:46:43 AM EDT
[#17]
http://www.sanjuanenterprise.com/html/products.html
3/5/2010 6:48:19 AM EDT
[#18]
I can't wait to parry a shot from a manxome foe with a blade attached to my loaded, chambered firearm.  Hopefully I'll be in a low guard sweeping from right to left so the firearm has a chance of being 2 MOA off of my face when contact is made.



Answer:  The combination offers no advantage to using a sword as a sword (extra weight not devoted to cutting power), and no advantage to using the gun as a gun (might obscure part of your sight radius, adds length to the weapon without adding barrel and resulting increases in FPS which makes the firearm less maneuverable, etc)  I would propose that the combination provides disadvantages to the use of both weapons, and only minimally adds to your ability to carry both weapons.




3/5/2010 6:48:46 AM EDT
[#19]


I get wood every time I post that thing!  


3/5/2010 6:49:13 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Farscape had the best "gunsword"  


this?

3/5/2010 6:50:07 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Farscape had the best "gunsword"  


this?
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0912/05/farscapequest1c.jpg


Yes.  
3/5/2010 6:51:49 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The problem is that the sort of grip needed to use a blade and that needed to use a firearm are quite different and to a large degree mutually exclusive.


Sure about that?

https://www.physicalchess.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/f/i/file_3_22.jpg


An odd contraption to be sure.  I guess it could be made to work reasonably well for a thrusting / stabbing weapon.  A slashing weapon would present real problems, however.
3/5/2010 6:53:45 AM EDT
[#23]
One of those Final Fantasy/anime fans explained it to me.  He told me that the intention isn't to shoot someone with the gun - it does more damage if you stab someone (with the foot-wide blade) then pull the trigger, and the gunshot makes the blade vibrate, causing more damage.  Than being stabbed by a blade a foot wide.  And then being shot.


3/5/2010 6:58:58 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
No thanks.  I'll stick with my bolt pistol and chainsword.


3/5/2010 7:03:35 AM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:


No thanks.  I'll stick with my bolt pistol and chainsword.