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2/21/2010 2:17:09 PM EDT
Read a thread a while back about replacing enemy ammo with rounds full of some kind of high explosive. The plan was to slip them onto dead bodies or into supplies they found so the enemy would lose faith in the ammo/guns. If I remember right they also did the same with mortar rounds.

I am 100% I didn't make this up but can't remember what it was called, any help would be great.
2/21/2010 2:18:18 PM EDT
[#1]



Quoted:


Read a thread a while back about replacing enemy ammo with rounds full of some kind of high explosive. The plan was to slip them onto dead bodies or into supplies they found so the enemy would lose faith in the ammo/guns. If I remember right they also did the same with mortar rounds.



I am 100% I didn't make this up but can't remember what it was called, any help would be great.


It was in American Rifleman a few months ago



 
2/21/2010 2:18:44 PM EDT
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Quoted:


Read a thread a while back about replacing enemy ammo with rounds full of some kind of high explosive. The plan was to slip them onto dead bodies or into supplies they found so the enemy would lose faith in the ammo/guns. If I remember right they also did the same with mortar rounds.



I am 100% I didn't make this up but can't remember what it was called, any help would be great.


It was from an article in American Rifleman last year.  Really good reference for those into SOG , HEL and the like

 
2/21/2010 2:20:05 PM EDT
[#3]
Project Eldest Son
2/21/2010 2:20:44 PM EDT
[#4]
Wasn't the project code- named eldest son or something similar?
2/21/2010 2:23:54 PM EDT
[#5]
Wiki doesn't have much on it, and the only reference is from the magazine already discussed in this thread.
2/21/2010 2:24:46 PM EDT
[#6]
salting
2/21/2010 2:25:38 PM EDT
[#7]
will there be any Glock jokes?
2/21/2010 2:26:30 PM EDT
[#8]
I read about it in About Face by David Hackworth, his biography.  They would pull the bullet, fill the case with C-4 and re-seat the bullet.Then mix it in with other rounds in the mag of dead VC.

2/21/2010 2:26:35 PM EDT
[#9]
Yup'  thats it

http://www.jcs-group.com/military/war1964/project.html
2/21/2010 2:30:01 PM EDT
[#10]
An excellent example of blowback. As a result of rumours about that project indigs armed with AKs refused to use Chinese made cartridges. The US ended up making a lot of brass cased 7.62x39 cartridges for the Cambodes, Montagnards, Lao etc.  
2/21/2010 2:36:15 PM EDT
[#11]
Story has been around way longer than that .
Quoted:

Quoted:
Read a thread a while back about replacing enemy ammo with rounds full of some kind of high explosive. The plan was to slip them onto dead bodies or into supplies they found so the enemy would lose faith in the ammo/guns. If I remember right they also did the same with mortar rounds.

I am 100% I didn't make this up but can't remember what it was called, any help would be great.

It was from an article in American Rifleman last year.  Really good reference for those into SOG , HEL and the like  


2/21/2010 2:36:16 PM EDT
[#12]
Story has been around way longer than that .
Quoted:

Quoted:
Read a thread a while back about replacing enemy ammo with rounds full of some kind of high explosive. The plan was to slip them onto dead bodies or into supplies they found so the enemy would lose faith in the ammo/guns. If I remember right they also did the same with mortar rounds.

I am 100% I didn't make this up but can't remember what it was called, any help would be great.

It was from an article in American Rifleman last year.  Really good reference for those into SOG , HEL and the like  


2/21/2010 2:40:04 PM EDT
[#13]
I remember reading it in a book a few years ago.  I think it was written by a Col. Lee.  He told the story of finding a VC cashe and taking the time to load C4 in cartiges and arty shells.
2/21/2010 3:53:23 PM EDT
[#14]
There is a book on SOG that goes into this in great detail.  Read it a few years ago as a paperback.  I was more that just mixing ammo in mags, they developed ways to open the spam cans and reseal them so as to be unnoticable.  The project included small arms and mortor ammo.  I believe that this project is the origin for the military specifically excluding chinese ammo from the bids to arm the Afgan/Iraqi armies.
2/21/2010 3:56:10 PM EDT
[#15]
I believe our traitorous media, even back then, blew the lid off the program and it was scrapped.

2/21/2010 3:58:25 PM EDT
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I believe our traitorous media, even back then, blew the lid off the program and it was scrapped.





It didn't help that our allies at the time were also using the equipment and we had to also help resupply them to make sure they had a clean supply. Booby trapping hurts everyone.




 
2/21/2010 4:10:59 PM EDT
[#17]
Italian Green

Pole Bean or Pole Beam