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Originally Posted By WorkDroid: Here's LA Marzullis take on the film. Spoiler warning: he sounds like a grifter because he pushes his DVDs/books and his "buy gold" sponsers, but he's been following the biblical narrative behind UFOs, abductions, cattle mutilations and implants for the last 20-30yrs on his own. He believes in a few religious doctrines I don't, but for the most part I think he's got it right what's behind this phenomenon, and what its endgame is. He seems mad throughout lol, and justifiably so, this film covers a LOT of things he's been sounding the alarm bells on for years. The 14:05-14:43min mark is where he says what is probably going to happen after a full disclosure or a world wide nuclear event. No I dont believe religions or people for the most part are going to freak out. On the contrary, I think the world has been prepped for this over the centuries, and everyone's going to buy into it. Even the vatican has tipped their hand on the subject. Also look at how many non-religious and atheist types are looking for intelligent life to come save us from ourselves....lead us into a "golden age". Its a deep spiritual need that permeates both sides.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gC86mQ7i5YThe video was removed. Is there a different source for it? EtA, found:  The 25th Rung of Disclosure: They Are Coming |
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| I will be brutally honest here. I don't think even the government knows the real truth. I don't think it's possible for us Humans to know the real truth. For instance I watch a video that says when you die and see the white light drawing you in with visions of your loved ones welcoming you to turn your back on it, it's a soul trap that will erase your past memory. Instead turn your back and you will return to Source. But which is really the truth? It is impossible to know! |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: I will be brutally honest here. I don't think even the government knows the real truth. I don't think it's possible for us Humans to know the real truth. For instance I watch a video that says when you die and see the white light drawing you in with visions of your loved ones welcoming you to turn your back on it, it's a soul trap that will erase your past memory. Instead turn your back and you will return to Source. But which is really the truth? It is impossible to know! The software is what matters. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: We can only study the hardware and that will never get us the real answers. That goes for UFO's, the human mind, and the nature of reality. The software is what matters. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: I will be brutally honest here. I don't think even the government knows the real truth. I don't think it's possible for us Humans to know the real truth. For instance I watch a video that says when you die and see the white light drawing you in with visions of your loved ones welcoming you to turn your back on it, it's a soul trap that will erase your past memory. Instead turn your back and you will return to Source. But which is really the truth? It is impossible to know! The software is what matters. The more I think about it the more I think the Matrix movie may have been a warning. I saw the other day that AI is going to require 100X the entire annual energy output of what our country currently produces. Is AI going to use us as it's power source? Is it already using us as a power source and we don't know it? Do we even have any idea of what is real and what is not? All I know for certain is our world is not what we were taught to believe. |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: The more I think about it the more I think the Matrix movie may have been a warning. I saw the other day that AI is going to require 100X the entire annual energy output of what our country currently produces. Is AI going to use us as its power source? Is it already using us as a power source and we don't know it? Do we even have any idea of what is real and what is not? All I know for certain is our world is not what we were taught to believe. Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: I will be brutally honest here. I don't think even the government knows the real truth. I don't think it's possible for us Humans to know the real truth. For instance I watch a video that says when you die and see the white light drawing you in with visions of your loved ones welcoming you to turn your back on it, it's a soul trap that will erase your past memory. Instead turn your back and you will return to Source. But which is really the truth? It is impossible to know! The software is what matters. The more I think about it the more I think the Matrix movie may have been a warning. I saw the other day that AI is going to require 100X the entire annual energy output of what our country currently produces. Is AI going to use us as its power source? Is it already using us as a power source and we don't know it? Do we even have any idea of what is real and what is not? All I know for certain is our world is not what we were taught to believe. Our bodies are a sensor suite for interacting with this physical manifestation. Consciousness exists where there is no such thing as "time". Even the term "simulation" doesn't quite fit because the reality we currently inhabit is formed by the collective conscious in order to have individual experiences. "Simulation" suggests someone created it and we're trapped inside. Getting all this in a random download directly to your brain makes it a lot easier to understand because it's very difficult to explain. Years after I received that direct download, I discovered the "gateway process" files and that's the best description I've found. Funny enough, the CIA previously classified the information. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5.pdf Religions/spiritual ideologies pop up across all civilizations because we inherently know "this ain't all there is" but most don't understand the why/how so they come up with their own explanation. Knowing is a beautiful thing because you no longer fear physical death and the passing of loved ones doesn't hit the same way. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: None of it is "real". Our bodies are a sensor suite for interacting with this physical manifestation. Consciousness exists where there is no such thing as "time". Even the term "simulation" doesn't quite fit because the reality we currently inhabit is formed by the collective conscious in order to have individual experiences. "Simulation" suggests someone created it and we're trapped inside. Getting all this in a random download directly to your brain makes it a lot easier to understand because it's very difficult to explain. Years after I received that direct download, I discovered the "gateway process" files and that's the best description I've found. Funny enough, the CIA previously classified the information. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5.pdf Religions/spiritual ideologies pop up across all civilizations because we inherently know "this ain't all there is" but most don't understand the why/how so they come up with their own explanation. Knowing is a beautiful thing because you no longer fear physical death and the passing of loved ones doesn't hit the same way. I have the Gateway files and audio/video. To say interesting is a major understatement. There are also many great YT videos. I haven't stuck with it the way I should but have currently started and made a commitment to myself to do so. My main challenge is trying to stay awake when using them. 
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: I have the Gateway files and audio/video. To say interesting is a major understatement. There are also many great YT videos. I haven't stuck with it the way I should but have currently started and made a commitment to myself to do so. My main challenge is trying to stay awake when using them. THEN I catch up next day or an after a few days. For the past three years, absolutely delightful. |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: I let myself fall asleep EVERY evening, with wife imposing headphones on me - while watching/listening. THEN I catch up next day or an after a few days. For the past three years, absolutely delightful. LMAO I let my wife try and listen to the first Gateway Project video once letting her use my laptop and headphones. She never made it past the ocean waves! 
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| It's nice to know there are many others experencing this. I no longer fear death at all but must admit I really like the life I have now except for the extreme physical pain and not having my son around. Hopefully one day he can come back into my life but that is an unknown for me currently. But by GOD I AM going to bring him back if possible! |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: It's nice to know there are many others experencing this. I no longer fear death at all but must admit I really like the life I have now except for the extreme physical pain and not having my son around. Hopefully one day he can come back into my life but that is an unknown for me currently. But by GOD I AM going to bring him back if possible! Have you tried a simple apology with no conditions or excuses? Sometimes it doesn't take much but ego gets in the way. Luckily, I reconciled with my dad not long before he passed so that's a regret I don't have to live with. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: I grew up with a dad who was difficult, because that's how his dad raised him. Have you tried a simple apology with no conditions or excuses? Sometimes it doesn't take much but ego gets in the way. Luckily, I reconciled with my dad not long before he passed so that's a regret I don't have to live with. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: It's nice to know there are many others experencing this. I no longer fear death at all but must admit I really like the life I have now except for the extreme physical pain and not having my son around. Hopefully one day he can come back into my life but that is an unknown for me currently. But by GOD I AM going to bring him back if possible! Have you tried a simple apology with no conditions or excuses? Sometimes it doesn't take much but ego gets in the way. Luckily, I reconciled with my dad not long before he passed so that's a regret I don't have to live with. Oh no I didn't make myself clear on that. My son was taken away from me in 2020 by a drunk driver while out riding his Harley. But maybe in my next reality??? As far as my father he died when I was only 11. Never really got to know the real man he was since he was a Dr and worked around the clock almost. But he I think spoke with me one night back in the 1980s 20+ years after his death and it scared me to death as I had no clue what was happening. Only now do I more understand what he was trying to tell me about the body being able to heal itself from anything. |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Oh no I didn't make myself clear on that. My son was taken away from me in 2020 by a drunk driver while out riding his Harley. But maybe in my next reality??? As far as my father he died when I was only 11. Never really got to know the real man he was since he was a Dr and worked around the clock almost. But he I think spoke with me one night back in the 1980s 20+ years after his death and it scared me to death as I had no clue what was happening. Only now do I more understand what he was trying to tell me about the body being able to heal itself from anything. Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: It's nice to know there are many others experencing this. I no longer fear death at all but must admit I really like the life I have now except for the extreme physical pain and not having my son around. Hopefully one day he can come back into my life but that is an unknown for me currently. But by GOD I AM going to bring him back if possible! Have you tried a simple apology with no conditions or excuses? Sometimes it doesn't take much but ego gets in the way. Luckily, I reconciled with my dad not long before he passed so that's a regret I don't have to live with. Oh no I didn't make myself clear on that. My son was taken away from me in 2020 by a drunk driver while out riding his Harley. But maybe in my next reality??? As far as my father he died when I was only 11. Never really got to know the real man he was since he was a Dr and worked around the clock almost. But he I think spoke with me one night back in the 1980s 20+ years after his death and it scared me to death as I had no clue what was happening. Only now do I more understand what he was trying to tell me about the body being able to heal itself from anything. My word may not count for much but you will be reunited with your son. I am 100% confident of that. |
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My wife gave me Elizondo’s book, Imminent, last year for Christmas after I asked for it. We both equally find UFOs/UAPs/similarly phenomena fascinating… The book was solid, but some of the stuff he says regarding his MIL background doesn’t pass the smell test. Without going back into the book to pull out specific examples, he struck me, repeatedly, as some other prior MIL types most of us have met, where something’s just off. For a civilian with no frame of reference, they may not know any better but he struck me at times as a guy I would definitely ask “what color is the boathouse at Hereford?”. Some of the pictures and captions are cringe AF…9th grade JROTC blue beret “cannoneer”? There’s providing a historical frame of reference and there’s crafting a narrative. He frequently talks around things to create an air of mystery, intrigue and invoke the whole “I could tell you but then I’d have to kill you” thing while simultaneously vomiting arguably classified information to anyone that puts a camera or microphone in front of him. I actually like him, personally, just find some of it off putting and at putting him at risk of compromising his integrity and the veracity of what he’s saying. That being said there’s no question of his significant involvement in AATIP and some of the high ranking officials associated with it. My wife and I watched it on Prime (bought if for $25) and while there was no new information in the movie that the book didn’t cover we liked it. It’s…unfortunate that SO many of those politicians/officials are literally a whose who of some of the biggest Beltway scumbags in modern day history; Clapper, Brennan, Reid, Schumer, Gillibrand… …and we bought it because it’ll likely age well and worth another watch, kind of a whole I told you so thing. |
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Originally Posted By MikeWhiskey: My wife gave me Elizondo's book, Imminent, last year for Christmas after I asked for it. We both equally find UFOs/UAPs/similarly phenomena fascinating The book was solid, but some of the stuff he says regarding his MIL background doesn't pass the smell test. Without going back into the book to pull out specific examples, he struck me, repeatedly, as some other prior MIL types most of us have met, where something's just off. For a civilian with no frame of reference, they may not know any better but he struck me at times as a guy I would definitely ask "what color is the boathouse at Hereford?". Some of the pictures and captions are cringe AF 9th grade JROTC blue beret "cannoneer"? There's providing a historical frame of reference and there's crafting a narrative. He frequently talks around things to create an air of mystery, intrigue and invoke the whole "I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you" thing while simultaneously vomiting arguably classified information to anyone that puts a camera or microphone in front of him. I actually like him, personally, just find some of it off putting and at putting him at risk of compromising his integrity and the veracity of what he's saying. That being said there's no question of his significant involvement in AATIP and some of the high ranking officials associated with it. My wife and I watched it on Prime (bought if for $25) and while there was no new information in the movie that the book didn't cover we liked it. It's unfortunate that SO many of those politicians/officials are literally a whose who of some of the biggest Beltway scumbags in modern day history; Clapper, Brennan, Reid, Schumer, Gillibrand and we bought it because it'll likely age well and worth another watch, kind of a whole I told you so thing. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if certain politicians have backhandedly blackmailed aerospace companies for donations by threatening to dig into the UAP topic. "Throw some money at my campaign and I'll make sure nobody asks the uncomfortable questions." |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: I've certainly noticed what you're pointing out about Lue, and the lefties being more involved in the UAP topic. To be fair though, Republicans were historically the party that protected big business and there are no bigger businesses than the oil and defense industries. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if certain politicians have backhandedly blackmailed aerospace companies for donations by threatening to dig into the UAP topic. "Throw some money at my campaign and I'll make sure nobody asks the uncomfortable questions." Well Lou is a bonafide Disinfo guy and he has no issue admitting to it so you have to know right off the bat he may be lying. He is a likeable guy that seems he would be a blast to sit down and have a few bears with however. I think most of what he is saying is the truth in respect to what he is allowed to speak. I really don't know if the JohnQPublic can handle the truth or not. It's a damn big pill to swallow and I doubt we even know a small fraction of what is known. ETA finding out I had been lied to my entire fucking life about pretty much everything was unsettling but I didn't get angry about it. Matter of fact some of it was rejuvenating. The general public at large might not have the same reaction.  And from what little I understand his likeability is actually part of his training. |
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I myself was somewhat rudely awakened late last year when a YT video suddenly quoted something I had said online. I tried to go back to sleep but it was too late. Then early this year a video The Chronicles of Thomas immediately followed by I Am video came up and I then knew exactly what Mathew Brown meant at the end of his video With Corbell when he stated God is real. Been a very wild and confusing ride since but thankfully my wife is fully embracing my journey even though there is no way for her own reality to understand my current one. I wish I had been awakened long ago but I guess I wasn't ready yet.
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Megan Kelly is getting into this pretty heavy and is looking damn delicious in here as well, but this guy gives a great short interview and assessment. Why the Truth About UFOs and Non-Human Intelligence Might Get Revealed By Trump, with Walter Kirn |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Megan Kelly is getting into this pretty heavy and is looking damn delicious in here as well, but this guy gives a great short interview and assessment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxUkBtZmWOQ |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: I've certainly noticed what you're pointing out about Lue, and the lefties being more involved in the UAP topic. To be fair though, Republicans were historically the party that protected big business and there are no bigger businesses than the oil and defense industries. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if certain politicians have backhandedly blackmailed aerospace companies for donations by threatening to dig into the UAP topic. "Throw some money at my campaign and I'll make sure nobody asks the uncomfortable questions." I suspect left - which does bother me slightly. It's okay, I can live with it AND I am aware that maybe, some of the legacy program might have been overly-religious "right wing" and thusly, not willing to divulge by blocking every chance of disclosure Funnily enough, being a modern conservative, I am not in either camp. ETA I was wrong, they're truly bipartisan, they're a mixture of this and that. Which makes it truly so much better for me. |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: I probably shouldn't allow my mind to go political on this BUT while watching this documentary (now thrice, some passages I now know by memory) I have wondered, EACH time, what political side Mellon, Elizondo, Stratton, Puthoff are on. I suspect left - which does bother me slightly. It's okay, I can live with it AND I am aware that maybe, some of the legacy program might have been overly-religious "right wing" and thusly, not willing to divulge by blocking every chance of disclosure Funnily enough, being a modern conservative, I am not in either camp. Originally Posted By Solo_: Originally Posted By Cypher214: I've certainly noticed what you're pointing out about Lue, and the lefties being more involved in the UAP topic. To be fair though, Republicans were historically the party that protected big business and there are no bigger businesses than the oil and defense industries. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if certain politicians have backhandedly blackmailed aerospace companies for donations by threatening to dig into the UAP topic. "Throw some money at my campaign and I'll make sure nobody asks the uncomfortable questions." I suspect left - which does bother me slightly. It's okay, I can live with it AND I am aware that maybe, some of the legacy program might have been overly-religious "right wing" and thusly, not willing to divulge by blocking every chance of disclosure Funnily enough, being a modern conservative, I am not in either camp. Lue and Jay are right wing. Lue is a gun guy with American flags and vet bro shit all over his office. He lives on a ranch in Wyoming. Jay just strikes me as a Conservative, but I have nothing to go off of besides my intuition. Puthoff, I'm not sure. I don't get the impression he cares much about politics. They're doing a good job of at least appearing apolitical so the UAP issue remains bipartisan. Trump is a man who very much cares about his legacy so that could be his primary motivation for official disclosure, with a side of "ultimate transparency" thrown in for good measure. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Mellon is a Bush-era Republican but more of a milquetoast type politically. He couldn't help himself and took a jab at Trump on X awhile back. His political career mostly involved working with R's so I feel like he is either "moderate" or leans a bit left. Lue and Jay are right wing. Lue is a gun guy with American flags and vet bro shit all over his office. He lives on a ranch in Wyoming. Jay just strikes me as a Conservative, but I have nothing to go off of besides my intuition. Puthoff, I'm not sure. I don't get the impression he cares much about politics. They're doing a good job of at least appearing apolitical so the UAP issue remains bipartisan. Trump is a man who very much cares about his legacy so that could be his primary motivation for official disclosure, with a side of "ultimate transparency" thrown in for good measure. |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Thank you for the additional details (I thought Lue was a leftist, imagine that) - and great analysis, as always. Originally Posted By Solo_: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Mellon is a Bush-era Republican but more of a milquetoast type politically. He couldn't help himself and took a jab at Trump on X awhile back. His political career mostly involved working with R's so I feel like he is either "moderate" or leans a bit left. Lue and Jay are right wing. Lue is a gun guy with American flags and vet bro shit all over his office. He lives on a ranch in Wyoming. Jay just strikes me as a Conservative, but I have nothing to go off of besides my intuition. Puthoff, I'm not sure. I don't get the impression he cares much about politics. They're doing a good job of at least appearing apolitical so the UAP issue remains bipartisan. Trump is a man who very much cares about his legacy so that could be his primary motivation for official disclosure, with a side of "ultimate transparency" thrown in for good measure.  Hell, he has a tattoo of Lady Liberty hoisting an M4. Then there's this:Attached File I bet he's a member here. 
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: You thought the guy who's always wearing "Grunt Style" shirts, 5.11, and US Flag hats was a leftist? Hell, he has a tattoo of Lady Liberty hoisting an M4. Then there's this:https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/IMG_7870_jpeg-3664986.JPG I bet he's a member here.
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Hadn't even noticed all that - but now it makes sense why at some point the whole of that cesspool or reddit started hating on him Originally Posted By Solo_: Originally Posted By Cypher214: You thought the guy who's always wearing "Grunt Style" shirts, 5.11, and US Flag hats was a leftist? Hell, he has a tattoo of Lady Liberty hoisting an M4. Then there's this:https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/IMG_7870_jpeg-3664986.JPG I bet he's a member here. The Chinese influence has been obvious lately because every UAP post gets some variation of "America is terrible so they can't properly handle this topic". That's a new trend. The leftist influence is obnoxious as hell because they bring politics into literally every post. They are convinced that the world is on the brink of total collapse and the only thing that can save us from the evil Conservatives is an alien invasion. They're not going to believe ANYTHING that comes from Trump or anyone connected to him. I wish there was a better source for UAP current events but most news hits Reddit before anywhere else. I just have to ignore 87% of the noise. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Reddit is a hub of leftist hate combined with government disinformation operatives, standard trolls, and Chinese troll farms. The Chinese influence has been obvious lately because every UAP post gets some variation of "America is terrible so they can't properly handle this topic". That's a new trend. The leftist influence is obnoxious as hell because they bring politics into literally every post. They are convinced that the world is on the brink of total collapse and the only thing that can save us from the evil Conservatives is an alien invasion. They're not going to believe ANYTHING that comes from Trump or anyone connected to him. I wish there was a better source for UAP current events but most news hits Reddit before anywhere else. I just have to ignore 87% of the noise. Logged out, now I still browse it but NEVER get into the comments. I just don't even click on the thing, I only read the main entries. I had some fun telling the 'moderators' things though PS Cypher - it's always, always a learning experience to read your stuff! |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: PS Cypher - it's always, always a learning experience to read your stuff! Thank you. My ability to retain mostly-useless information is remarkable. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Oh boy, I need to start adding a disclaimer. Thank you. My ability to retain mostly-useless information is remarkable. PS sorry everyone for derailing this, it's inappropriate. Enough. Back on topic! PS STILL need to watch Rogan's interview to Farah, will do today. Some are saying it's even better than the documentary itself. |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Back on topic! PS STILL need to watch Rogan's interview to Farah, will do today. Some are saying it's even better than the documentary itself. I haven’t finished watching it myself. But what I’ve seen so far I’d say it is a great companion for the movie. Sort of a behind the scenes or deeper dive kind of vibe to it. |
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PS STILL need to watch Rogan's interview to Farah, will do today. Some are saying it's even better than the documentary itself. When you get to 1h40m pay attention to American Computer Company - here's Art Bell interviewing founder:  Roswell Alien Technology - Jack Schulman | Art Bell (1998) ETA: IMO documentary is for the normies, and I still think it's great, JRE episode is geared more towards people who bother to read this forum. |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: I was banned early on. I counter-commented something about Trump (it was even pre-2024 victory), I got quickly moderated, I escalated it, started arguing with moderators - perm-ban on r/UFO (LOL) Logged out, now I still browse it but NEVER get into the comments. I just don't even click on the thing, I only read the main entries. I had some fun telling the 'moderators' things though PS Cypher - it's always, always a learning experience to read your stuff! Originally Posted By Solo_: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Reddit is a hub of leftist hate combined with government disinformation operatives, standard trolls, and Chinese troll farms. The Chinese influence has been obvious lately because every UAP post gets some variation of "America is terrible so they can't properly handle this topic". That's a new trend. The leftist influence is obnoxious as hell because they bring politics into literally every post. They are convinced that the world is on the brink of total collapse and the only thing that can save us from the evil Conservatives is an alien invasion. They're not going to believe ANYTHING that comes from Trump or anyone connected to him. I wish there was a better source for UAP current events but most news hits Reddit before anywhere else. I just have to ignore 87% of the noise. Logged out, now I still browse it but NEVER get into the comments. I just don't even click on the thing, I only read the main entries. I had some fun telling the 'moderators' things though PS Cypher - it's always, always a learning experience to read your stuff! So if official disclosure does come from the Trump admin, will half of the current believers reject it? Could TDS be so deep that even some of the insider whistle blowers try to sabatoge it? |
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Originally Posted By castlebravo84: So if official disclosure does come from the Trump admin, will half of the current believers reject it? This one transcends politics IMO. The program is beyond D or R. |
Panem et Circenses
I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it. - Churchill
I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it. - Churchill
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83: This one transcends politics IMO. The program is beyond D or R. I agree. Several of the faces caused me to kind of mentally squirm as they showed up on screen because of who I believe them to be. But I detected no ideological slant towards the information provided. Refreshing actually. |
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Originally Posted By castlebravo84: So if official disclosure does come from the Trump admin, will half of the current believers reject it? Could TDS be so deep that even some of the insider whistle blowers try to sabatoge it? Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By Solo_: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Reddit is a hub of leftist hate combined with government disinformation operatives, standard trolls, and Chinese troll farms. The Chinese influence has been obvious lately because every UAP post gets some variation of "America is terrible so they can't properly handle this topic". That's a new trend. The leftist influence is obnoxious as hell because they bring politics into literally every post. They are convinced that the world is on the brink of total collapse and the only thing that can save us from the evil Conservatives is an alien invasion. They're not going to believe ANYTHING that comes from Trump or anyone connected to him. I wish there was a better source for UAP current events but most news hits Reddit before anywhere else. I just have to ignore 87% of the noise. Logged out, now I still browse it but NEVER get into the comments. I just don't even click on the thing, I only read the main entries. I had some fun telling the 'moderators' things though PS Cypher - it's always, always a learning experience to read your stuff! So if official disclosure does come from the Trump admin, will half of the current believers reject it? Could TDS be so deep that even some of the insider whistle blowers try to sabatoge it? It's a damn tricky situation to undo an 80+ year old lie/disinformation campaign and my gut tells me they won't even address the full scope. The statement will be as simple as possible without admitting too much and there will be a shitload of "I'll have to direct you to X for further information on that" or "we're looking into that" in response to the hard questions that follow. Once the barrel of monkeys is opened, things like abduction, cattle mutilation, etc are suddenly on the table for official discussion and I'm sure they're trying to figure out how to say just enough without the whole thing exploding in their faces. The last thing the government wants, and part of the reason this hasn't been disclosed, is to admit there's a world-changing issue that they know very little about and have no power to control. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: I think that depends entirely on the nature of the announcement and any follow-on plans. It's a damn tricky situation to undo an 80+ year old lie/disinformation campaign and my gut tells me they won't even address the full scope. The statement will be as simple as possible without admitting too much and there will be a shitload of "I'll have to direct you to X for further information on that" or "we're looking into that" in response to the hard questions that follow. Once the barrel of monkeys is opened, things like abduction, cattle mutilation, etc are suddenly on the table for official discussion and I'm sure they're trying to figure out how to say just enough without the whole thing exploding in their faces. The last thing the government wants, and part of the reason this hasn't been disclosed, is to admit there's a world-changing issue that they know very little about and have no power to control. If he does it like everything else, he'll drop half of a gigantic information bomb, backpedal, more crap will get leaked, another contradictory info bomb will drop, then we'll be back to square one wondering if any of the shit that was just said is real. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: If he does it like everything else, he'll drop half of a gigantic information bomb, backpedal, more crap will get leaked, another contradictory info bomb will drop, then we'll be back to square one wondering if any of the shit that was just said is real. Originally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By Cypher214: I think that depends entirely on the nature of the announcement and any follow-on plans. It's a damn tricky situation to undo an 80+ year old lie/disinformation campaign and my gut tells me they won't even address the full scope. The statement will be as simple as possible without admitting too much and there will be a shitload of "I'll have to direct you to X for further information on that" or "we're looking into that" in response to the hard questions that follow. Once the barrel of monkeys is opened, things like abduction, cattle mutilation, etc are suddenly on the table for official discussion and I'm sure they're trying to figure out how to say just enough without the whole thing exploding in their faces. The last thing the government wants, and part of the reason this hasn't been disclosed, is to admit there's a world-changing issue that they know very little about and have no power to control. If he does it like everything else, he'll drop half of a gigantic information bomb, backpedal, more crap will get leaked, another contradictory info bomb will drop, then we'll be back to square one wondering if any of the shit that was just said is real. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. If it happens, hopefully we'll see simultaneous bipartisan disclosure that agrees on the main aspects. However, most of us here are already pretty much convinced that there is something bizarre going on; what we really need is details. |
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| I think congress was/is upset they didn't get their cut or appointed to some board position. I think the control of such programs runs deep and that it could be dangerous to people who tried to blow the lid off of things. Then throw in societal impacts and the demand to share information and technology, I can see the UN wanting access to the tech to make the world a "better" place. I don't know of a painless way to say "we are not alone" and have been lied to for years...called crazy and ridiculed. I can see Bernie Sanders riding up to Area 51 demanding access.... Things could definitely get interesting, but I also think for the future of society and knowledge, we need to start shining the light into some dark areas. |
| I just had a startling thought after thinking a bit more about the Julia McCoy video I posted earlier. NHI already controls our reality. What if it is about to either give us the life of the Jetsons or just as easily knock us back to the stone ages in a blink of an eye? |
This is fucking big!! Chris is playing hardball now! Christopher Mellon Responds to ‘Age of Disclosure’ — The Air Force Must Testify Under Oath |
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Trump’s Genesis AI is about back engineering and figuring out UAPs in 60 days. I don’t dare post this in the discussion over on General as much as I want to. Maybe someone already has since I haven’t read through that thread yet.  TRUMP KNOWS UFO SECRETS And Could Make BIG Announcement |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: None of it is "real". Our bodies are a sensor suite for interacting with this physical manifestation. Consciousness exists where there is no such thing as "time". Even the term "simulation" doesn't quite fit because the reality we currently inhabit is formed by the collective conscious in order to have individual experiences. "Simulation" suggests someone created it and we're trapped inside. Getting all this in a random download directly to your brain makes it a lot easier to understand because it's very difficult to explain. Years after I received that direct download, I discovered the "gateway process" files and that's the best description I've found. Funny enough, the CIA previously classified the information. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5.pdf Religions/spiritual ideologies pop up across all civilizations because we inherently know "this ain't all there is" but most don't understand the why/how so they come up with their own explanation. Knowing is a beautiful thing because you no longer fear physical death and the passing of loved ones doesn't hit the same way. Emergent physicality in a localized sensory system. It would certainly check most all of the boxes for what “reality” is. |
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83: This one transcends politics IMO. The program is beyond D or R. I agree. The programs survived every administration, so it has to be either bipartisan, or powerful enough to cut through. Or just plain hidden. So the people involved at every level are on both sides of the isle. But more importantly, it’s a humanity issue. |
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| I'm seeing so many new breaking discoveries and articles on YT now it's only a short matter of time before some truth at least comes out. YT has almost gone bonkers on the UAP topic since this movie came out and is even being discussed on CBS and Face the Nation! Not like anyone watches those shows but some do. The Genesis AI from what I gather is to figure out how they generate their power which I believe myself is generated from human emotions. Specifically hate, fear, lack, etc. |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: I'm seeing so many new breaking discoveries and articles on YT now it's only a short matter of time before some truth at least comes out. YT has almost gone bonkers on the UAP topic since this movie came out and is even being discussed on CBS and Face the Nation! Not like anyone watches those shows but some do. The Genesis AI from what I gather is to figure out how they generate their power which I believe myself is generated from human emotions. Specifically hate, fear, lack, etc. I feel it's more likely the "propulsion and guidance" of at least some of the craft are based on consciousness/telepathy. The cover story for Projects Stargate and Gate was "gifted minds/psychic spies" when what they were really looking for are people with the ability to interact with the craft. That all goes out the window if the pilots are actually synthetic, with a form of artificial intelligence encoded that enables them to interface with the system that operates the craft. It would be like finding a drone with an entirely new software that we can't decipher and there's no way to power up the drone without the unique software that's on an encrypted key in another place. Basically a biometric lock on steroids from a civilization that doesn't use 1's and 0's like ours. You want a problem that nobody can figure out in 80+ years? There ya go. |
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
| Both Groush and Jake Barber hinted at them being synthetic beings. I saw one interview with Barber that made it sound as if the "biologics" he saw was more of a jell type substance. I am almost certain that is what was put on a quantum computer chip aka Microsofts new form of matter never known to man that opened up our computer systems completely to NHI. That is just my theory as to why they shut the system down but by then it was already too late to contain. |
Oh wow Dr Eric Davis is going to be part of the UAP research team at UAlbany. Game-Changer for UFO/UAP Science: Inside UAlbany’s New UAPx Program |