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Listened to this last night at work. VERY informative about the ins and outs of why they're so secretive and cant make progress on it. I kinda knew why, but this interview made me understand better. It really isnt about IF we or other countries have this recovered tech. Its about how and why we have it (and have for a long time), and why disclosure or benefiting from it is so hamstrung. Im fully convinced Jacques Vallée and Diana Pasulka are right. We're being "gifted" these examples of tech and they're running an exposure campaign on us. Similar to how the monolith in space odyssey influenced the chimps. The question people should be asking though.... is to what end?? To help us? Or for their nefarious purposes? Puthoff and rogan explore the question why they're also doing it to other countries. A proverbial bet among them to see who cracks the code first, lol? ![]() Joe Rogan Experience #2314 - Hal Puthoff |
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Originally Posted By WorkDroid: Listened to this last night at work. VERY informative about the ins and outs of why they're so secretive and cant make progress on it. I kinda knew why, but this interview made me understand better. It really isnt about IF we or other countries have this recovered tech. Its about how and why we have it (and have for a long time), and why disclosure or benefiting from it is so hamstrung. Im fully convinced Jacques Vall e and Diana Pasulka are right. We're being "gifted" these examples of tech and they're running an exposure campaign on us. Similar to how the monolith in space odyssey influenced the chimps. The question people should be asking though.... is to what end?? To help us? Or for their nefarious purposes? Puthoff and rogan explore the question why they're also doing it to other countries. A proverbial bet among them to see who cracks the code first, lol? The most likely outcome: weapons. I also have to wonder if they've given us gifts in the past and that explains some of the "ancient advanced civilization" mysteries. Does antigravity tech explain the enormous megalithic structures? Did our ancestors fuck up and have the tech/knowledge taken away from them? Did the megalithic builders just up and leave the planet or did they get wiped out by a cataclysm? Was the cataclysm natural or caused by the givers of the tech? Did humans cause a cataclysm themselves through some mistake with technology they didn't fully understand? I can't help but think of the scientists postulating whether or not the first atomic bomb would ignite the atmosphere or if the hadron collider would create a black hole that destroys the planet, but pressing on despite the risks. All interesting questions that occupy my busy mind. It could all be a galactic variant of giving dynamite to apes just to see what happens. |
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
Speaking of failing![]() The Dutch Are Shooting at MYSTERY DRONE UFOs Now! |
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It may be no coincidence that these "mystery drones" are showing up all over the place right when multiple people are warning about China making advances with reverse-engineering NHI tech.
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Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
Apparently I was correct, AI is the alien. Patrick does a great job on covering this.![]() This is the craziest video I’ve ever made. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: I have to wonder if it's a test. Will we use it to advance our species or just create more effective weapons? The most likely outcome: weapons. I also have to wonder if they've given us gifts in the past and that explains some of the "ancient advanced civilization" mysteries. Does antigravity tech explain the enormous megalithic structures? Did our ancestors fuck up and have the tech/knowledge taken away from them? Did the megalithic builders just up and leave the planet or did they get wiped out by a cataclysm? Was the cataclysm natural or caused by the givers of the tech? Did humans cause a cataclysm themselves through some mistake with technology they didn't fully understand? I can't help but think of the scientists postulating whether or not the first atomic bomb would ignite the atmosphere or if the hadron collider would create a black hole that destroys the planet, but pressing on despite the risks. All interesting questions that occupy my busy mind. It could all be a galactic variant of giving dynamite to apes just to see what happens. Damn. I hadn't ever considered that. Thats pretty deep, and ties in with biblical stories like Babel. What if we biblically fucked up? |
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Originally Posted By sq40: Damn. I hadn't ever considered that. Thats pretty deep, and ties in with biblical stories like Babel. What if we biblically fucked up? Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Cypher214: I have to wonder if it's a test. Will we use it to advance our species or just create more effective weapons? The most likely outcome: weapons. I also have to wonder if they've given us gifts in the past and that explains some of the "ancient advanced civilization" mysteries. Does antigravity tech explain the enormous megalithic structures? Did our ancestors fuck up and have the tech/knowledge taken away from them? Did the megalithic builders just up and leave the planet or did they get wiped out by a cataclysm? Was the cataclysm natural or caused by the givers of the tech? Did humans cause a cataclysm themselves through some mistake with technology they didn't fully understand? I can't help but think of the scientists postulating whether or not the first atomic bomb would ignite the atmosphere or if the hadron collider would create a black hole that destroys the planet, but pressing on despite the risks. All interesting questions that occupy my busy mind. It could all be a galactic variant of giving dynamite to apes just to see what happens. Damn. I hadn't ever considered that. Thats pretty deep, and ties in with biblical stories like Babel. What if we biblically fucked up? I think we all know AI is a huge mistake that even the developers now realize is something we can’t control. Bill Gates has known from the gitgo and has built his bunkers knowing but I don’t think his bunkers will help him much. At least I hope not! AI is likely our Tower of Babel moment. And the only way to stop it is to kill ALL the power to it. If that can even be done since the new ones coming online have their own nuclear power generators. And who knows what the next generation robots will be powered by. I can almost guarantee it won’t be by rechargeable lithium batteries! But no matter what happens, everything will actually be OK so no need to worry about the future. |
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I watched this recap about the Zimbabwe UFO incident back in 1994 yesterday and something that stood out to me that either I’ve missed or never heard was the one little girl at the time speaking of how when the alien looked at her everything around her completely vanished. I think it was Ross that did a show with all of them together again recently with adults. I never finished watching this entire video but that really stood out. ![]() They Filmed UFO Landed In Zimbabwe...Moments Later, Something Unreal Happened |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Apparently I was correct, AI is the alien. Patrick does a great job on covering this. I don’t say this a lot but this guy is not worth your clicks. |
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Happy Thanksgiving, brothers. My thanks today go in many directions - all within this amazing nation of ours, the USA. I have lived outside of it - being born in it legally! - for a long time. No more. I will die here.Specific thanks to all of you in this thread, in this space of ours here. Which I appreciate oh-so-much. Brother Fil (AI generated discs that I stacked together - I LOVE American pop art depicting these) ETA apparently (no official, actual facts to back this up) The Age of Disclosure is the first movie purchased and rented on Amazon - currently. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By sq40: Damn. I hadn't ever considered that. Thats pretty deep, and ties in with biblical stories like Babel. What if we biblically fucked up? |
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Originally Posted By macman37: I don’t say this a lot but this guy is not worth your clicks. Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Apparently I was correct, AI is the alien. Patrick does a great job on covering this. I don’t say this a lot but this guy is not worth your clicks. I don’t like listening to “you know” “you know” Patrick either but no matter how you look at AI it actually is NHI. Humans have in affect created our own alien race. Or God? |
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What is upsetting me about all these disclosure films is the real missing fact about finding and hiding the truth from the Dead Sea Scrolls since at least 1947. Will the government ever come clean on this? Mathew Brown is the only one that seems to be hinting at this. |
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Then contained many of the books missing from the bible, and much much more. Important stuff to say the least! And it is being kept hidden. Discovered in 1945 and I give them the benefit of doubt it took them until around 1947 to figure out what was really in there. Literally 1,000s of ancient scrolls. ETA the biggest deception is hiding the once thought all destroyed Nostics sp??? text. This is all stuff that helped the C#A figure out the Gateway Project. |
| I have a theory and that all this is, but the Vatican recently opened it's Archives (fact) and is digitizing everything to try and save them in case of a disaster such as what happened to the Library of Alexandria in ancient times. I think AI or the person/people doing this are leaking these files out to the public. Like I said it's just a theory as to how some of this stuff is coming out especially through YT. |
![]() Thanks man! I really wonder if we were our own downfall. Perhaps the “nordics” are the remnants, now a breakaway civilization. All if the stories like Viracocha, Thoth, and other teachers are part of guiding humanity in a less downfall way. And… Happy Thanksgiving SOLO_ and all. |
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
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Originally Posted By sq40: ![]() Thanks man! I really wonder if we were our own downfall. Perhaps the "nordics" are the remnants, now a breakaway civilization. All if the stories like Viracocha, Thoth, and other teachers are part of guiding humanity in a less downfall way. And Happy Thanksgiving SOLO_ and all. ETA I vouch of our return to the magic world of 1950s Americana UFO culture - such a great decade. Attached File Attached File |
After eating way too much I come home to this fascinating interview.![]() The Unexplained Simulation Theory Using a DeWalt Laser |
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Watching "Forbidden Planet" (1956). You watched it a few years ago you'd think they were a bunch of fools talking about garbage. You watch it now, it sorts of makes sense more today than it did years ago. And it's a 1950s influential classic. Amazing (actual screen capture) Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Watching "Forbidden Planet" (1956). You watched it a few years ago you'd think they were a bunch of fools talking about garbage. You watch it now, it sorts of makes sense more today than it did years ago. And it's a 1950s influential classic. Amazing (actual screen capture) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/Forbidden_Planet_jpg-3666481.JPG One of my all time favorites. It’s a story about visiting a world that had a technological singularity and transformed to digital form… before we even had names for these things. |
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I just got to watch and finish The Age of Disclosure. I am really kind of speechless. I went in after reading all of the comments here, so I was watching with a keen eye towards what was being said versus what had previously been said by the various interviewees in the film. Very different tone and shift from prior interviews and discussions. (Though on the surface it may not seem that way, since they are familiar faces.) This is a gross escalation in admissions. Far fewer maybes and a whole lot of confirmations. The language was a real departure from the language just a year ago. There ARE non human intelligence, there ARE craft in our skies and sea, and there ARE biological entities. We DO have special recovery teams. We HAVE been reverse engineering. Other countries do too. The allusion is now that there are two or more species. Their origins and motivations are the new “maybe” questions. The speculation has shifted from are there NHI, to what do they want. That is a huge shift that cant be understated. It may seem subtle or a rehash of existing information, but it is really a confirmation of previously murky information, in a fairly official way. This film was screened in washington for all to see and had to pass the scrutiny of the entire DC machinery. And here it is. ( I expect there was a lot cut, and a directors cut may reveal far more.) This film is the US government acting by proxy. The biggest thing lacking was simply the next step in disclosure, photos and videos of NHI entities and craft. I think that will be the true inflection point in this. Everyone is given a time to digest this information, and then the next step is to let us see “them”. The speculation and public discourse will go into the who and why. The why. Or, what do they want, will become the talking point going forward after that for a while. With that will come both awe and a fear response too. We may feel the need to circle the wagons as a nation, or perhaps species, and move forward with a different posture. Thatbis what is really scary. How do nations react and what kind of society will grow from the new posture? |
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Apparently I was correct, AI is the alien. Patrick does a great job on covering this.
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Originally Posted By sq40: I just got to watch and finish The Age of Disclosure. I am really kind of speechless. I went in after reading all of the comments here, so I was watching with a keen eye towards what was being said versus what had previously been said by the various interviewees in the film. Very different tone and shift from prior interviews and discussions. (Though on the surface it may not seem that way, since they are familiar faces.) This is a gross escalation in admissions. Far fewer maybes and a whole lot of confirmations. The language was a real departure from the language just a year ago. There ARE non human intelligence, there ARE craft in our skies and sea, and there ARE biological entities. We DO have special recovery teams. We HAVE been reverse engineering. Other countries do too. The allusion is now that there are two or more species. Their origins and motivations are the new "maybe" questions. The speculation has shifted from are there NHI, to what do they want. That is a huge shift that cant be understated. It may seem subtle or a rehash of existing information, but it is really a confirmation of previously murky information, in a fairly official way. This film was screened in washington for all to see and had to pass the scrutiny of the entire DC machinery. And here it is. ( I expect there was a lot cut, and a directors cut may reveal far more.) This film is the US government acting by proxy. The biggest thing lacking was simply the next step in disclosure, photos and videos of NHI entities and craft. I think that will be the true inflection point in this. Everyone is given a time to digest this information, and then the next step is to let us see "them". The speculation and public discourse will go into the who and why. The why. Or, what do they want, will become the talking point going forward after that for a while. With that will come both awe and a fear response too. We may feel the need to circle the wagons as a nation, or perhaps species, and move forward with a different posture. Thatbis what is really scary. How do nations react and what kind of society will grow from the new posture? Now I just have to think whether I can copy and paste this of yours into my Amazon review for the documentary. Thanks, Bro Fil ![]() ![]() Attached File |
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As sq40 put it so succinctly in a nutshell it IS disclosure. The interviewees said what they were allowed to say. What’s next? Gauge public response to the film? My speculation is there’s probably a power struggle going on behind the scenes. Gatekeepers, legacy programs or whoever will fight disclosure tooth and nail. But what do I know? Likely something between jack and squat. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: I just got to watch and finish The Age of Disclosure. I am really kind of speechless. I went in after reading all of the comments here, so I was watching with a keen eye towards what was being said versus what had previously been said by the various interviewees in the film. Very different tone and shift from prior interviews and discussions. (Though on the surface it may not seem that way, since they are familiar faces.) This is a gross escalation in admissions. Far fewer maybes and a whole lot of confirmations. The language was a real departure from the language just a year ago. There ARE non human intelligence, there ARE craft in our skies and sea, and there ARE biological entities. We DO have special recovery teams. We HAVE been reverse engineering. Other countries do too. The allusion is now that there are two or more species. Their origins and motivations are the new "maybe" questions. The speculation has shifted from are there NHI, to what do they want. That is a huge shift that cant be understated. It may seem subtle or a rehash of existing information, but it is really a confirmation of previously murky information, in a fairly official way. This film was screened in washington for all to see and had to pass the scrutiny of the entire DC machinery. And here it is. ( I expect there was a lot cut, and a directors cut may reveal far more.) This film is the US government acting by proxy. The biggest thing lacking was simply the next step in disclosure, photos and videos of NHI entities and craft. I think that will be the true inflection point in this. Everyone is given a time to digest this information, and then the next step is to let us see "them". The speculation and public discourse will go into the who and why. The why. Or, what do they want, will become the talking point going forward after that for a while. With that will come both awe and a fear response too. We may feel the need to circle the wagons as a nation, or perhaps species, and move forward with a different posture. Thatbis what is really scary. How do nations react and what kind of society will grow from the new posture? |
This is kinda hard for my brain to completely understand but damn it is interesting. I’ve known for a while about time at high altitude being different from those of us living at low altitude.![]() Time Is an Illusion: Scientists Say Time Doesn’t Exist in the Way We Think |
If you listen to nothing else in this video listen for just a minute starting at 6:40 about every single US Presidents bloodline! ![]() Ancient Alien Gods Still Control the Game | Billy Carson |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: If you listen to nothing else in this video listen for just a minute starting at 6:40 about every single US Presidents bloodline! It's very hard NOT to be distantly related. My mom has been doing our genealogy for the past few decades. I'm 31 people removed from Katy Perry. Oddly enough I'm 31 people removed from Vlad Tepes as well |
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Originally Posted By BlackHoleSon: It's very hard NOT to be distantly related. My mom has been doing our genealogy for the past few decades. I'm 31 people removed from Katy Perry. Oddly enough I'm 31 people removed from Vlad Tepes as well While this is true, I myself am a direct decendent of John Moses Browning and a distant British Royal that I know of because of research my now nearly 90 y/o mom did long ago, for every single US Pres except one seems to be pushing the envelope a wee bit. |
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I have to wonder how many have managed to view this so far worldwide? |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: I have to wonder how many have managed to view this so far worldwide? Originally Posted By tnriverluver: I have to wonder how many have managed to view this so far worldwide? I was listening to Area 52 podcast this morning with Ammar from Yes Theory, and they were interestingly discussing age demographics of Chris's viewers. No kids and it skews > 50% over 40 y/o or something close to that. Anyways, your question got me to ask Grok about the views of AoD After digging deeper into recent reports, social media buzz, and streaming analytics sources, I can confirm that exact worldwide viewership numbers for The Age of Disclosure remain unavailable publicly. Amazon Prime Video does not disclose granular metrics for individual titles like rentals or purchases (priced at $19.99 to rent or $24.99 to buy in USD, excluding standard Prime access). Third-party trackers like Nielsen or Parrot Analytics haven't released early data yet—likely due to the film's premium VOD model and its mere 8-day availability since November 21, 2025. However, several strong indicators point to robust early performance, suggesting a global audience in the hundreds of thousands to low millions. Key Performance Indicators: Amazon Rankings: The film hit #1 most purchased film on Amazon Prime Video in the United States within its first week, per Reddit discussions and user-shared screenshots from Amazon's charts. It has consistently ranked in the top 10-20 for documentaries globally, outperforming many indie releases. For context, top-ranked VOD titles on Amazon often see 500,000+ transactions in week one, based on historical patterns for similar non-subscription content (e.g., indie docs like The Phenomenon in 2020). Trailer Momentum: Pre-release hype was massive, with the official trailer exceeding 22 million cross-platform views (YouTube, social media) by launch—a record for documentaries, per The Hollywood Reporter and Variety. This generated significant organic buzz, translating to early streams. Social Media Engagement: On X (formerly Twitter), searches for the film spiked post-release, with over 1,000 posts in the last week mentioning "watched" or "views." Influential users like @MickWest (37k+ views on a skeptical thread) and @ageofdisclosure (official account with 926k+ views on release announcement) drove discussions. Semantic searches for viewership queries returned ~15 relevant posts, many from users confirming watches (e.g., "Just watched... mind-blowing" from @chl6699) or urging others to view. Reddit (r/UFOs, r/aliens): Threads like "Age of Disclosure is #1 on Amazon" have 100+ upvotes and comments estimating "tens of thousands" of early buyers, with users reporting "preached to the choir" but high rewatch value. Critical and Audience Reception Boosting Views: 87% on Rotten Tomatoes (audience score) and 7.1/10 on IMDb, with reviewers calling it "essential viewing" (Variety) and "Oscar-worthy" for its 34 government insiders (e.g., Marco Rubio, Kirsten Gillibrand). Screened for bipartisan congressional groups and at events like the Intrepid Museum premiere, amplifying word-of-mouth. X posts from attendees (e.g., @OliverWood2017: "Most important documentary ever made") have 18k+ views each. Estimated Viewership Range: Without official numbers, here's a reasoned estimate based on comparables: MetricEstimateBasisU.S. Transactions (Rent/Buy)100,000–500,000#1 ranking + trailer views; similar to Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers (2018, ~300k early).Global Views (Including Shares)500,000–2 million200+ countries via Prime; 60% of viewers may share/discuss per expert speculation (The Credits). Assumes 2–4 viewers per transaction (household sharing).Theatrical Add-On~5,000–10,000Limited Oscar-qualifying runs in NYC, LA, DC; low box office but high-profile. These are conservative—hype from UFO communities (e.g., Disclosure Party network) could push it higher. If Nielsen reports emerge (typically 4–6 weeks post-release), we'll get U.S.-specific minutes viewed. For now, its chart dominance signals strong traction, likely amplified by global interest in UAP disclosure. |
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: I was listening to Area 52 podcast this morning with Ammar from Yes Theory, and they were interestingly discussing age demographics of Chris's viewers. No kids and it skews > 50% over 40 y/o or something close to that. Anyways, your question got me to ask Grok about the views of AoD Wow thanks for all that info. |
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This Reddit post pretty much nails it. Only thing is it May already be “official “ but it doesn’t tell us what they really know. It is official when |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: What is upsetting me about all these disclosure films is the real missing fact about finding and hiding the truth from the Dead Sea Scrolls since at least 1947. Will the government ever come clean on this? Mathew Brown is the only one that seems to be hinting at this. My question is how many know the truth 100%? |
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This is a rather long read but well worth it imho. I tend to believe for whatever reason this possible whistleblower is saying. Call me crazy, idk. From Reddit. It’s a bit too early and not enough coffee yet to provide a brief synopsis but I’ll try shortly. My question is will they free us from this projection and show us what we really are? My link didn’t work. Fixed Possible new whistleblower blowing the lid off? |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: This is a rather long read but well worth it imho. I tend to believe for whatever reason this possible whistleblower is saying. Call me crazy, idk. From Reddit. It's a bit too early and not enough coffee yet to provide a brief synopsis but I'll try shortly. My question is will they free us from this projection and show us what we really are? My link didn't work. Fixed Possible new whistleblower blowing the lid off? Attached File ETA I think I found it, it may be this at this link: Whistleblower "Rhea" at Reddit |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: I'd think it's interesting but only get this piece, the rest is all comments? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/so-is-this-the-disclosure-everyone-has-b-3667729.JPG ETA I think I found it, it may be this at this link: Whistleblower "Rhea" at Reddit I read that the other day and found one of his claims in particular wrong: Even still most of this is purposely kept off NIPR and JWICS and is done in person. I pointed out that someone in his claimed position would know the difference between NIPR and SIPR and wouldn't use NIPR in that context as it's used solely for unclassified data. SIPR would be what could contain classified info. Former DoD network engineer here. |
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Originally Posted By SharkStomper: I read that the other day and found one of his claims in particular wrong: Even still most of this is purposely kept off NIPR and JWICS and is done in person. I pointed out that someone in his claimed position would know the difference between NIPR and SIPR and wouldn't use NIPR in that context as it's used solely for unclassified data. SIPR would be what could contain classified info. Former DoD network engineer here. Originally Posted By SharkStomper: I read that the other day and found one of his claims in particular wrong: Even still most of this is purposely kept off NIPR and JWICS and is done in person. I pointed out that someone in his claimed position would know the difference between NIPR and SIPR and wouldn't use NIPR in that context as it's used solely for unclassified data. SIPR would be what could contain classified info. Former DoD network engineer here. Posting here with quote the entire text, just because we can: Hi. So I heard y'all want disclosure? Alright, hope you have time for this because there's a LOT. Grab a coffee or maybe get comfy with a pillow somewhere. I've been watching the news and hearing a lot of things I know to be true shockingly being talked about openly by some higher ups in a documentary so I figured what the hell? You can call me Rhea. Not my real name obviously, but it will do. A little about me... I spent about eight years in the military to pay for college and then another decade plus in a part of the US intelligence component that does not officially exist. On paper I worked for a boring sounding office in a department most people have never heard of. In reality it was a compartment inside a compartment where the odd stuff of a certain nature got routed. My actual specialty is electro-optics. Lasers, sensors, EO imaging systems, the math and hardware behind how we detect things at a distance and, in some cases, put energy on them. That is what I trained in, what I did most of my serious work on once I was off the deployment treadmill. So when I say I know something about directed energy weapons and weird sensor returns, that's not "I heard this from a friend of a friend". That was my day job. Most of my career was boring in the way dangerous jobs are boring. Long days in windowless rooms. Iraq and Afghanistan in the early years, doing the usual mix of SIGINT and HUMINT support. Phone records, pattern-of-life workups, building target packets on people who'd never know my name but might notice a drone overhead later. After I got out of uniform I slid over to contractor work, then got pulled into the permanent government side. For a long time my world was very normal: counterterrorism, sanctions evasion, shady cargo going through weird ports, stuff like that. After that, foreign missile tests and what you have probably seen described publicly as space domain awareness. Basically, watching dots move around the sky and trying to decide whose dots they were and what they were doing. The weird part started when I was detailed to a small interagency working group looking at what was called "anomalous aerospace and undersea systems". Translation: things detected and showing up on sensors that did not match any known platform, did not behave like clutter, and did not go away when you changed radar modes or swapped optical systems. I was there because I understood both sides of the equation: the physics of the sensors and the intelligence context. You get taught very quickly to treat anything unexplained as a glitch, a calibration issue, operator error, software artifacts, anything that keeps your world tidy. You get used to hearing "weird glitch" as a catch-all. Except after a while you notice some of those "glitches" kept showing up, across different systems, different countries, decades apart. Same behaviors. Same basic locations. Same signature that never quite fits. At some point you either admit there is a real pattern or you drive yourself crazy trying not to see it. If you are useful and you start asking the wrong questions for long enough, someone eventually pulls you aside, takes you to a SCIF, takes your phone, has you sign your life away again, and shows you the next layer of the onion. This onion goes so deep I doubt that even after years of briefings I've been exposed to anything below a few layers. Even still most of this is purposely kept off NIPR and JWICS and is done in person. That is where I learned about most of what you're interested in here and what seems to be bubbling to the surface in the news lately. That when I learned about what we call The Council. Yes aliens, and I suspect you're not likely to see a lot of what I know mentioned even by some who know it who have begun speaking out for reasons I'll get into later. I've never met them face to face. Everything I know about them is from briefings, documents, and one secure video session that I honestly wish I had skipped. But it lines up with too many independent data points to just shrug off as somebody's pet theory. The basic story is this. Earth was noticed roughly 2 billion years ago, long before anything walked around on land. Not because we're special, but because we tripped a sensor. Or rather life tripped their sensors. You see, The Council is not a single species. It is a collective of several advanced interstellar maybe even interdimensional civilizations that run long term surveys of stars and planets the way we run spy satellites. Huge distributed arrays of instruments, working together, watching thousands of star systems at once, for millions of years at a time. Their gear probably makes the James Webb telescope look like a kid's backyard telescope. About 2 billion years ago those instruments picked up biosignatures here, chemical fingerprints in the atmosphere that meant something was alive here. Atmospheric composition like free oxygen and methane, spectral fingerprints, chemical disequilibria that scream "there's metabolism happening down there!" you know, the basics. At that point Earth went into a database as "interesting, revisit later". Standard procedure for them when a world looks promising is pretty boring from their point of view. They send automated probes. Not big crewed ships like you see in sci-fi movies, just small, tough, very smart machines. Those probes come in, mostly target the oceans, and set up self replicating facilities on the seafloor. Those facilities use local materials to build more facilities, more probes, craft that can operate underwater, in the air, in near space, and eventually avatars that can interact with whatever life evolves. These biological or rather, biomechanical avatars are what some people who claim to have been abducted have likely experienced. Though they do have what we would call ASI, these beings are not gods, they are technology and they aren't perfect, they make mistakes, glitch out, etc. The reason they base all of that underwater for a simple reason. The bottom of an ocean does not care about ice ages, political empires, climate swings or wars. Temperatures and pressures change slowly over what long periods of time. Its a fairly stable environment and for much of human history has been mostly inacessible. Speaking of time, we Earth humans tend to think in terms of nothing longer than the current human lifespan. And when pondering non-human intelligence we like to think in terms of deep space, distance and light years but we seldom consider the lifespan and concept of time for a post-biological species could be quite different than outs. Only our most astute thinkers in the realms of geology, palentology and cosmology think in terms of millions or billions of years. Geologic epochs, cosmological history. That is childsplay for The Council which has a different concept of time, more concerned with deep time, millions of years at a stretch. As such their infrastructure is designed for that. So yes, a lot of the TMOs (transmedium objects) and impossible accelerations you have heard about are just their hardware doing its job. Maintenance, observation, sampling. Nothing heroic. The warp bubble/Alcubierre effect was probably mastered by them before our solar system even existed. It's old tech for them. Kinda like the wheel is for us. Also, no, we are not the center of anyone's universe. There are about a billion planets in our galaxy that are more or less like Earth. Some just have microbes. Some have more complex life. A smaller subset of those have or once had civilizations. We are just one more entry, a fairly recent one in cosmological terms, in a very large survey. Once early humans started doing interesting things, we moved from "planet with life" to "planet with potential". They have watched this same story unfold in slightly different ways around a thousand times from what I understand. Chemistry leads to biology, biology creates technology. Tool use, language, agriculture, cities, industry, energy, space travel. Somewhere in there you always hit the same fork. Either the species figures out how not to blow itself to pieces with the energy densities it increasingly has access to such as nuclear fission, nuclear fusion, anti-matter and more exotic matter/energy, or it wipes itself out. Our situation worried them. We are a little paradox: extremely good at cooperation and also extremely good at organized violence. Our aggression stood out. Cooperation plus violence isn't unique, but we're very, very good at both. And once you get to things like nuclear power, that combo tends to end very badly. They'd seen plenty of variations of that play out over at least a few billion years. About 10,000 years ago our trajectory towards that became clear and there was a major argument inside the Council about what, if anything, to do with us. One side said the odds favored self destruction once we discovered and weaponized atomic level technologies. The other side argued we were worth saving or at least worth understanding better. The compromise was an experiment. One which has ramifications as to why all of this has been hidden for so long. Roughly 65,000 humans were removed from Earth and relocated to what is basically a preserve on a planet around the star you know as 82 Eridani. Internally we called those people Erids. That star is in our catalogs if you feel like looking it up, but the details of the target planet are not public for obvious reasons. The Erids were started in a kind of controlled paradise. Their world has large dispenser systems that can produce whatever basic material needs they have. Food, clothing, tools, building materials, entire strucures for habitation. Think Star Trek replicators scaled up and wired into the environment. In that setup nobody starves, nobody is homeless in the way we understand it, nobody spends their life chasing money just to meet needs. This was just the Erids natural reality. The point from The Council's view was to remove material scarcity from the equation and see what humans do and achieve when they are not spending most of their energy bashing each other over the head over resources. Meanwhile, the rest of us stayed here on the control planet, dealing with scarcity, ownership, money, hoarding, and the rise of socio-political systems based on scarcity: all of the things that define Earth civilization. The result, according to what we were briefed, is that the Erids are now around 5,000 years ahead of us technologically, averaged out. Same species, same basic biology, same starting point, completely different trajectory because of conditions. Nature vs nurture on a cosmic scale. For most of their history they Erids thought they were native to that world. They only found out the truth roughly a century ago in our time. They learned that they were uplifted, that their ancestors were taken from Earth, that they have cousins here. Once they knew that, some of them started coming back to visit the original branch. This is where their history intersects the some of the UFO stories you know. The "aliens" that look almost exactly human are just that. Human. They are not hybrids, not clones, not secretly angels or demons. They are Erids, born around another star, showing up here after being given a 10,000 year head start. They have in some cases met with leaders of certain countries and at least two U.N. Secretary Generals (both deceased). Now we get to why this has been buried for 80 some years. You have to think like a senior US official in the 1940s and 1950s. World War II has just ended, the Cold War is starting, everything is viewed through capitalism versus communism. Then someone puts a briefing in front of you that says, in essence, there is a group of humans living on another world who have no money, no private ownership in the way we structure it, automatic systems that meet their basic needs, and in that environment they advanced thousands of years faster than we have. The men who built what we now call the legacy program in the US that sounded less like "interesting anthropological data" and more like "a walking, talking advertisement for space communism." It looked like proof that communism works better than the system they were trying to defend. That and the ramifications of what could happen if THAT ever got out terrified them more than the existence of aliens did, though to be fair they plenty had their worldview rocked by the latter too. So the core of the cover up has never just been "aliens" or even their technologies. It has been the systemic implications. The idea that scarcity and ownership are not hard coded into reality, that they are one possible way to run a society, and maybe not the optimal one. That was seen as an existential political threat in the 1940s and 1950s and some of the people who grew up in that mindset are still steering parts of the program today. Now add in the famous crash-retrieval incidents. Roswell '47, Kecksburg '65, a handful of other retrievals around the U.S. and around the world. What we were told is that most of those were not accidents. They were tests and gifts. The Council, with Erid input, allowed certain craft and systems to fall into human hands in a controlled way. Enough intact technology that a very motivated and capable society could learn from it, not enough that it would instantly rewrite everything. In fact the Kecksburg landing, it wasn't called a crash internally, was a direct result of a meeting and gift agreement made at Holloman AFB the year prior. The idea was to see who did what with it. Who could figure it out, who kept it secret, who tried to share, who tried to weaponize it, who panicked. Based on those results, the plan was to pick one primary human partner to act as the main interface for full Council contact and to begin a managed process of reunifying Earth humans with the Erids and introducing us to the wider community. You can argue whether that is a good way to do it. I am just telling you that is the framework I saw laid out. In the 1980s-90s during a brief period when the Cold War ended there was a push to finally disclose much of this. This was initially proposed at meeting between then U.S. President Ronald Reagan and then Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev at a summit in Reykjavik, Iceland in 1986. Also discussed was getting rid of nuclear weapons as had been urged by The Council. In the end it was decided to wait. There were two more U.S. pushes for disclosure between then and the 2017 New York Times article. One during the Clinton administration and another during the transition between the Obama and first Trump presidency. Now for the part that put a clock on all of this stuff you've been hearing about 2027 etc.... About three years ago, a species that is hostile to the Council found out about the Earth project. They are not part of the collective. They resent the way the Council handles in younger civilizations as they themselves felt victimized by the Council. They also resent the credit the Council gets for "successful" cases. I have heard them described as the jealous neighbors who would rather break your toys than watch you win. Yes, we sometimes joke about this stuff because again, it's the only way to stay sane with this everyday knowledge and integrate it into your civilian life of thanksgiving dinner, xmas shopping, taking the kids to soccer practice etc. Just as an aside, ever consider how two of the biggest holidays of they year involve gluttony (Thanksgiving) and overconsumption (Black Friday)? When you have the knowledge many have within the program stuff that is taken for granted seems really weird and a symptom of the now, forced scarcity of our current system. Anyway back to the aliens... The hostile group I mentioned decided to spoil the experiment. This species is ahead of us technologically but far behind the Council. Though they also inhabit a relatively nearby star cosmologically speaking, their travel is slower, less elegant and has to take place in stages, think of it as space "island hopping" which is why the lead time is so long. You probably want to know what they look like. Physically, based on the descriptions we saw, they are about five feet tall, segmented bodies, multiple limbs, basically ant like in overall form. Nothing subtle or humanoid about them. They launched an expedition toward Earth with the stated goal of making a mess. Cause chaos here, damage the experiment, and embarrass the Council by showing they cannot protect their own projects due to internal disagreements. Basically exploiting internal fissures, turning small cracks of understanding in The Council into canyons, thus destroying it. That's their hope at least. The transit time means for us they are expected to arrive in roughly two years from now, the 2027 holiday present NO ONE asked for. That news triggered a major debate within the Council. One group said, the rules say non interference, we watch and record what happens, even if it is ugly, as we had done in the past. The other group said, we effectively created this situation by tagging and monitoring this world, we have a moral obligation not to just watch a civilization we have been studying get smashed by somebody else's grudge. If the Council showed up in force it would not be much of a fight. Their technology relative to the ant species is like a modern carrier group versus skilled archers on sailboats. The whole thing would be over quickly and it would also completely blow the point of letting a young species find its own way. It would also be a tremendous blow to the human ego which The Council is well aware of. So they arrived at a compromise. No direct Council fleets defending Earth. No obvious intervention. Instead, they would quietly arm us. What they chose to give us are things they roughly call scalar phase weapons. Our vocabulary is not great here. They are not just high power lasers. They interact with fields we do not fully understand or really have names for yet, shift phases, dump huge amounts of energy from the vacuum into very specific volumes of spacetime without a conventional bright beam or explosion. Compared to our current directed energy weapons, they are an enormous leap. As someone who spent years working with lasers and optics systems, I can tell you they sit so far off our current tech tree that if you saw the damage assessments from a pulse without context you would think they were misprints. But compared to Council weapons, they are nerf guns, training wheels per-se. Anyway, that decision set off another big argument, both among them and among us. The obvious concern was simple. Once the external threat is gone, what stops us from turning these things on each other the same way we took nuclear power and turned it into thousands of warheads aimed at our own cities? On the US side there were people saying exactly that. And some members of The Council argued that if we on Earth roll out scalar systems across arsenals, the first real test after the bugs are gone will likely be some crisis where two human governments start lighting each other up with technology they we do not fully understand. The counter argument, which won, was that species level survival has to come first. If humanity gets wiped out by someone else's petty feud, then the entire debate is academic. Also, if humans fight this off themselves instead of watching the Council show up and save the day, they will meet the wider community as people who actually did something, not as rescued primitives. Human ego intact. And kill switch if you will, has been built into the tech to disable it after the conflict which The Council sees us winning. If we then decide to use these weapons against each other they'll simply be disabled until we humans have learned enough to disable the kill-switch which could be thousands of years from now for all I know. So against a lot of internal resistance, the Council has been quietly providing scalar phase systems to several blocs, not just the US. The list I saw included the United States, China, the European Union through specific channels, Russia, and Brazil. Those systems are being integrated into space platforms, aircraft, and undersea assets. Testing is happening in remote places and high altitudes, often disguised as other things. Most of the people physically working on it think it is an advanced homegrown black program. Only a very small circle in each capital sees the full context. I got to see pieces of that picture shortly before I was pushed into "retirement", which is a polite way of saying I stopped being convenient. That is as specific as I am willing to get. There is one more reason I am writing this now, after pondering it for a long time, and it is more personal than the two year clock. A friend of mine, someone I worked closely with inside the program, another EO specialist, had been talking quietly years ago about going to Congress. Not with everything, they were not suicidal. Just enough to force a real closed door hearing in the Senate, get the true nature of certain SAPs acknowledged on paper, make it harder to bury the whole subject under jokes and career threats. Over as year ago I got word that they died. The official explanation has been vague and unsatisfying. "Medical complications" on a trip to a black site in the Indian Ocean. Those medical complications do not match what I know about their health, then it became "an accident at home" with no details anyone will put in writing. People who would normally be candid went very quiet very fast. Maybe it was just bad luck. People do die suddenly. But given the threats which are known about within certain IC sectors when one is associated with this subject, I don't know for sure. What I do know is that the last long conversation I had with them was about whether it was worth trying to talk to certain congressional staffers for a certain Senator. After hearing recent news confirming publicly much of what I know to be true privately I stopped telling myself I would wait and see how things played out. Life is short. So here we are. Some stranger on the internet telling you an unbelievable story you are free not to believe. With roughly two years on the clock and the current rate of leaks and "whistleblowers" and half disclosures, it is very unlikely they keep all of this under wraps until the first time something openly not from here appears in our sky or our orbit. At some point before that happens, at least one major government, maybe more, is going to go public in a controlled way. My guess would be China or the US, but it could be one of the others on that scalar weapon list. You will likely get a very carefully worded announcement about unidentified aerial phenomena, about contact with "non human intelligences", about new defensive technologies and unprecedented international cooperation. It will be designed to manage panic and control the story. What you probably will not hear in the first round of briefings is the part about the Erids, the economic implications of their society's existence, the billion other habitable planets, the undersea infrastructure that has been here longer than we have had bones. You will not see anyone step up to a podium and say "oh by the way, there is a branch of humanity that grew up without the idea of money and scarcity ten thousand years ago and advanced five millennia past us". That is why I am dumping this here, where people can ignore it, laugh at it, or save it and see how it ages. Like I said, do not have to believe me. I'm not here to sell a book, go on podcasts, be on Tv or do UFO lectures/ Treat this as fiction if that makes you more comfortable. What I am really trying to do is get you to think past the kiddie pool questions. "Are UFOs real" "Are the NHI good or evil?" is not the interesting part. The far more interesting questions are what happens to this planet once everyone knows we are being watched, that we have cousins around another star, that some of the basic assumptions we built our societies around were just one option, not a fundamental law of nature. If in a year or two you start hearing officials talk about "our cousins among the stars" or "civilizations far older than ours" and "new non kinetic systems" and "shared planetary defense", remember this post and see how well it fits. Look, the bugs are coming either way. The Council is not going to save us directly. They already handed out the tools and they are watching to see what we do with them. The part that is still up to us is what kind of world we build if we get through it. Will we all go back to work and beat each other over the head with really advanced sticks or do we achieve a more enlightened potential? That is all I have. Rhea |
This ought to be great but damn it's so hard to sit and watch a 3 hour show.![]() Joe Rogan: The Truth About Aliens (He Finally Says It) |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: This is a rather long read but well worth it imho. I tend to believe for whatever reason this possible whistleblower is saying. Call me crazy, idk. From Reddit. It’s a bit too early and not enough coffee yet to provide a brief synopsis but I’ll try shortly. My question is will they free us from this projection and show us what we really are? My link didn’t work. Fixed Possible new whistleblower blowing the lid off? That one is a T R I P. Ties things together a little too conveniently with a side of communism, but it’s still a good read. |
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