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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:02:52 PM EDT
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$41.25 from Monkey Wards!!!!
My mom's wedding set came from MW. Dad worked there until around 1940 or so and received the employee discount. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 5:59:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grumpy-old-man:
$41.25 from Monkey Wards!!!! My mom's wedding set came from MW. Dad worked there until around 1940 or so and received the employee discount. They used to be the place to go back then, it seemed! I can just remember them going out of business. However, $41 wasn't cheap back in 1942! |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 6:33:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Revelation68: They used to be the place to go back then, it seemed! I can just remember them going out of business. However, $41 wasn't cheap back in 1942! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Revelation68: Originally Posted By grumpy-old-man: $41.25 from Monkey Wards!!!! My mom's wedding set came from MW. Dad worked there until around 1940 or so and received the employee discount. They used to be the place to go back then, it seemed! I can just remember them going out of business. However, $41 wasn't cheap back in 1942! $598 today. http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 6:40:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlCrow:
Originally Posted By Revelation68:
Originally Posted By grumpy-old-man:
$41.25 from Monkey Wards!!!! My mom's wedding set came from MW. Dad worked there until around 1940 or so and received the employee discount. They used to be the place to go back then, it seemed! I can just remember them going out of business. However, $41 wasn't cheap back in 1942! $598 today. http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ Nice! Thanks for that. $600 comes by most of us easier than it did during the War, to be sure. |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 8:47:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlCrow:
I found a Timex Dynabeat last weekend at a flea market to complete the three types of Timex "electric" watches I own. I'm sure I'll buy more since they are inexpensive and boring to all but a few. I find the movements in these watches interesting. More info if interested; http://electric-watches.co.uk/makers/timex/ The first was the "Electric" in 1963 after Timex acquired LACO in Germany and their know how to build it. Next came the "Electronic", mine below was made in 1973, was about as accurate as the Electric but used micro circuitry and was more reliable. Then the "Dynabeat" made in the later 1970's, a little more refined and they upped the beats per hour from 21,600 to 28,800 making it more accurate and a smoother sweep of the seconds hand. Here's all three, the Electric (left rear), the Dynabeat (right rear) and the Electronic (front). I've owned the Electronic since 1973, the other two were in bad condition, crystals badly scratched but they run great after a fresh battery was installed. I cleaned and polished them up, cleaned the bands in my ultrasonic cleaner and polished all the scratches and gouges out of the acrylic crystals with a high speed buffer and polishing compound this evening. The crystals look like new again, that is the one good thing about acrylic crystals, you can make then look new again. http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/3timex001.jpg I dig your Timex's. I have a few myself, but they really get no love from most watch collectors. Which means you can usually pick them up cheap. 
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Posted: 10/25/2014 8:52:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Revelation68:
Recently got a new crown and crystal on my 1942 Hamilton ORD watch. Here you can see the difference beside my modern Pilot Pioneer: <a href="http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/buyingontime/media/Hamilton/IMG_20141015_185318_zpsbiwmd6hv.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a572/buyingontime/Hamilton/IMG_20141015_185318_zpsbiwmd6hv.jpg</a> Nice Hamiltons! |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 1:51:30 PM EDT
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Picked this up years ago, it made me laugh.
Digital! 
The face does say Swiss, inside is a simple pin lever movement. ETA: I probably picked this up at a flea market 20yrs ago, and it still keeps good time.
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Posted: 10/26/2014 5:08:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
Nice Hamiltons! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
Originally Posted By Revelation68:
Recently got a new crown and crystal on my 1942 Hamilton ORD watch. Here you can see the difference beside my modern Pilot Pioneer: <a href="http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/buyingontime/media/Hamilton/IMG_20141015_185318_zpsbiwmd6hv.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a572/buyingontime/Hamilton/IMG_20141015_185318_zpsbiwmd6hv.jpg</a> Nice Hamiltons! Thanks a bunch, man! |
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Posted: 10/26/2014 5:09:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
Picked this up years ago, it made me laugh. Digital! http://imageshack.com/a/img631/3751/ajvcJu.jpg The face does say Swiss, inside is a simple pin lever movement. ETA: I probably picked this up at a flea market 20yrs ago, and it still keeps good time. Awesome! And to think those and Timex's were the bottom of the barrel...and probably have run longer untouched than the 17 jeweled pieces. 
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Posted: 10/26/2014 7:51:25 PM EDT
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I wish I had a mens Hamilton.
the only Hamilton I have is a '70's ladies sports automatic 
It's so small, I think it's amazing that they could make an automatic movement so small. It's barely an inch wide including the stem. Minus the stem, it's 7/8" wide. I have quite a few vintage ladies watches I picked up for next to nothing, unfortunately, my wife won't wear them because they are too small for her to read. :) The Bulova automatics are smaller. 
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Posted: 10/26/2014 8:02:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grumpy-old-man: Well, I finally found my old, ZODIAC Seawolf!!! I purchased the watch NIB in 1964. A dive shop that I frequented had three or four in the case, all marked down to $65.00 - I dug deep, and in a few days, wore the watch home. It came with the proper box and paperwork (long gone) and originally had the Oyster style bracelet with expansion links. I dove with the watch for a number of years, wore it the entire time I was in the army and finally, for a number of years as an LEO. The watch is pretty beat up, looks like it's been through a war (it has), but continued to run and keep decent time up until the day I retired it. It's been sitting idle for around 40 years. The crown is "frozen" and will not move. I don't want to force it. I'm assuming that dried crud or degraded gaskets/o-rings are the cause. Even with the cracked crystal, it always maintained water resistance, however, I stopped using it as a dive watch long before it was retired. If I shake the watch for a bit, the rotor will wind the main spring enough for the watch to run for a little while. The ol' girl still has heart! The Seawolf was a very popular dive watch. Surprisingly, even with a snap on case back and the lack of a screw down crown, it was rated for a depth of 20 ATM (660'). I never heard of one springing a leak. Link to an informative article: http://wornandwound.com/2014/02/14/affordable-vintage-zodiac-sea-wolf/ http://<a href=http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x106/Yeti47/Zodiaccrop1.jpg</a>" /> I had one like that and I sold it on ebay around the late 1990s or early 2000's. I wish I still had it. I bought this to replace it:  |
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Posted: 10/26/2014 8:04:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grumpy-old-man: I've given it some thought, but repairs are pricey, very few people work on the old Zodiacs and some parts are impossible to obtain. One site I visited advised that there is a guy who specializes in these old watches. Cost to repair/restore would run $600.00 plus, and it would no longer be rated as water resistant. I think I'll put that $600.00 toward the reissue of the Seawolf which should be available in Spring/Summer of 2015. I'll install new spring bars, reinstall the beat up bracelet and return my ol' companion to a quiet retirement. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grumpy-old-man: Originally Posted By Revelation68: Wow, how cool! I've seen a handful of them around, but they are pretty few and far between. Any interest in getting that thing going again eventually? I've given it some thought, but repairs are pricey, very few people work on the old Zodiacs and some parts are impossible to obtain. One site I visited advised that there is a guy who specializes in these old watches. Cost to repair/restore would run $600.00 plus, and it would no longer be rated as water resistant. I think I'll put that $600.00 toward the reissue of the Seawolf which should be available in Spring/Summer of 2015. I'll install new spring bars, reinstall the beat up bracelet and return my ol' companion to a quiet retirement. Check out this guy's web site: http://www.vintagezodiacs.com/currenthistory.php# |
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Posted: 10/26/2014 11:22:43 PM EDT
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Hamilton LCQ LED watch from around 1976. One of the first LED watches, original price was around $200 for this model. It contains the 880002 module.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 12:26:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
I wish I had a mens Hamilton. the only Hamilton I have is a '70's ladies sports automatic http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/673/hMzkrF.jpg It's so small, I think it's amazing that they could make an automatic movement so small. It's barely an inch wide including the stem. Minus the stem, it's 7/8" wide. I have quite a few vintage ladies watches I picked up for next to nothing, unfortunately, my wife won't wear them because they are too small for her to read. :) The Bulova automatics are smaller. Very cool watch! I have bought several for my girlfriend that are tiny and she wears them often. Even on of those automatic Bulova... 
Right now she has a 60's handwind Gruen and Elgin , a '66 Bulova automatic, and a 70's Hamilton Electronic. I'll have to post pictures sometime. |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 12:47:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1387Delta:
I had one like that and I sold it on ebay around the late 1990s or early 2000's. I wish I still had it. I bought this to replace it: http://i60.tinypic.com/11u92f7.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1387Delta:
Originally Posted By grumpy-old-man:
Well, I finally found my old, ZODIAC Seawolf!!! I purchased the watch NIB in 1964. A dive shop that I frequented had three or four in the case, all marked down to $65.00 - I dug deep, and in a few days, wore the watch home. It came with the proper box and paperwork (long gone) and originally had the Oyster style bracelet with expansion links. I dove with the watch for a number of years, wore it the entire time I was in the army and finally, for a number of years as an LEO. The watch is pretty beat up, looks like it's been through a war (it has), but continued to run and keep decent time up until the day I retired it. It's been sitting idle for around 40 years. The crown is "frozen" and will not move. I don't want to force it. I'm assuming that dried crud or degraded gaskets/o-rings are the cause. Even with the cracked crystal, it always maintained water resistance, however, I stopped using it as a dive watch long before it was retired. If I shake the watch for a bit, the rotor will wind the main spring enough for the watch to run for a little while. The ol' girl still has heart! The Seawolf was a very popular dive watch. Surprisingly, even with a snap on case back and the lack of a screw down crown, it was rated for a depth of 20 ATM (660'). I never heard of one springing a leak. Link to an informative article: http://wornandwound.com/2014/02/14/affordable-vintage-zodiac-sea-wolf/ http://<a href=http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x106/Yeti47/Zodiaccrop1.jpg</a>" /> I had one like that and I sold it on ebay around the late 1990s or early 2000's. I wish I still had it. I bought this to replace it: http://i60.tinypic.com/11u92f7.jpg Nice watch. Those were built to take a beating. One of my brothers was issued a first generation Super Seawolf when he was in the USAF. He beat it up pretty well, but still has it and it still runs. |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 12:47:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1387Delta:
Check out this guy's web site: http://www.vintagezodiacs.com/currenthistory.php# Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1387Delta:
Originally Posted By grumpy-old-man:
Originally Posted By Revelation68:
Wow, how cool! I've seen a handful of them around, but they are pretty few and far between. Any interest in getting that thing going again eventually? I've given it some thought, but repairs are pricey, very few people work on the old Zodiacs and some parts are impossible to obtain. One site I visited advised that there is a guy who specializes in these old watches. Cost to repair/restore would run $600.00 plus, and it would no longer be rated as water resistant. I think I'll put that $600.00 toward the reissue of the Seawolf which should be available in Spring/Summer of 2015. I'll install new spring bars, reinstall the beat up bracelet and return my ol' companion to a quiet retirement. Check out this guy's web site: http://www.vintagezodiacs.com/currenthistory.php# Thanks! |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 12:48:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
Picked this up years ago, it made me laugh. Digital! http://imageshack.com/a/img631/3751/ajvcJu.jpg The face does say Swiss, inside is a simple pin lever movement. ETA: I probably picked this up at a flea market 20yrs ago, and it still keeps good time. Well, it does have digits.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 12:50:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlCrow:
Hamilton LCQ LED watch from around 1976. One of the first LED watches, original price was around $200 for this model. It contains the 880002 module. http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/HamiltonLCQLED002.jpg http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/HamiltonLCQLED004.jpg http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/HamiltonLCQLED008.jpg I remember the early electronic watches. The models with the red LEDs were real power hogs. That one is sure in nice shape. All that's missing is the little, aluminum calendar that you'd buy in 12 packs and bent around the band/bracelet. 
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Posted: 10/27/2014 7:24:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Revelation68:
<snip> Very cool watch! I have bought several for my girlfriend that are tiny and she wears them often. Even on of those automatic Bulova...
Right now she has a 60's handwind Gruen and Elgin , a '66 Bulova automatic, and a 70's Hamilton Electronic. I'll have to post pictures sometime. Just be advised, if my wife ever came into contact with that small mens Hamilton you posted, it would probably disappear when she left.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 8:15:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grumpy-old-man: I remember the early electronic watches. The models with the red LEDs were real power hogs. That one is sure in nice shape. All that's missing is the little, aluminum calendar that you'd buy in 12 packs and bent around the band/bracelet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grumpy-old-man: Originally Posted By OlCrow: Hamilton LCQ LED watch from around 1976. One of the first LED watches, original price was around $200 for this model. It contains the 880002 module. http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/HamiltonLCQLED002.jpg http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/HamiltonLCQLED004.jpg http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/HamiltonLCQLED008.jpg I remember the early electronic watches. The models with the red LEDs were real power hogs. That one is sure in nice shape. All that's missing is the little, aluminum calendar that you'd buy in 12 packs and bent around the band/bracelet. This one came right after the red LED models. The LED's needed a button pushed to see the time, if they were on all of the time like the LCD's they would have a dead battery in a week or less. Telly Savalas wore one in the TV show Kojak.  It's in real good condition, I'll guess the guy that got it for 30 years of service never wore it. The battery went bad long ago but I was able to clean it up, remove all the battery acid and install a new battery. The movement is USA made by Hamilton with the LCD screen coming from Suncrux in Japan. It's real nice, stainless and it's adjustable. This one has a day/date function so you didn't need those calenders. I do remember them. |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 10:53:29 AM EDT
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That was a whole lot of money back then - which is why I didn't own one until the price came way down.
The LC display was quite an improvement over the LEDs. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 2:54:44 PM EDT
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OK, here's today's offering.
This belonged to my dad. Years ago, he told me that he received it from his parents as a graduation gift in 1929, which the engraving on the back confirms. Obviously, the watch is in pretty rough shape. The crown is missing and the stem may be missing or partially missing (broken) as well. The case back is hinged, but I've resisted the temptation to open it up. From what little I was able to find on line, the case is plated and two movements were available, the most expensive being a Swiss movement. The Swiss movement added about $5.00 to the price of the watch. Prices ran from around $15.00 to $22.00 in 1929.  " />
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Posted: 11/3/2014 4:43:10 PM EDT
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Nice old watch.
And it reminds me that I have a ABRA watch around here, somewhere. I haven't seen it in years, it was my grandmother's watch. It still runs and is near new in condition because she didn't like to wear a watch. Now if I could remember where it is. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 4:44:05 PM EDT
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Where is Revelation68???
I haven't seen him around here lately. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 5:41:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlCrow:
Nice old watch. And it reminds me that I have a ABRA watch around here, somewhere. I haven't seen it in years, it was my grandmother's watch. It still runs and is near new in condition because she didn't like to wear a watch. Now if I could remember where it is. Took me a while to locate the one I posted, and a few others. It'd be interesting to see an ABRA in decent shape. I was totally unfamiliar with the brand until I dug out my dad's watch. I still have some watches to post. Gotta spread out the postings, lest I run out of things to gab about. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 5:44:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlCrow:
Where is Revelation68??? I haven't seen him around here lately. Wondered that myself. He always makes great contributions to the threads, and has some very interesting watches. He's an accountant, maybe he's busy with end-of-the month books, or getting ready for tax time. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 5:56:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
I wish I had a mens Hamilton. the only Hamilton I have is a '70's ladies sports automatic http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/673/hMzkrF.jpg It's so small, I think it's amazing that they could make an automatic movement so small. It's barely an inch wide including the stem. Minus the stem, it's 7/8" wide. I have quite a few vintage ladies watches I picked up for next to nothing, unfortunately, my wife won't wear them because they are too small for her to read. :) The Bulova automatics are smaller. That's a nice watch. I amazes me that the watch makers are able to pack so much into such a small package. Moreover, somebody has to make all of those microscopic parts. A Rolex, lady's, Datejust automatic is probably about the same size and I can't imagine even getting the back off of one, let alone digging around in it's mechanical innards. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 7:24:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grumpy-old-man:
That's a nice watch. I amazes me that the watch makers are able to pack so much into such a small package. Moreover, somebody has to make all of those microscopic parts. A Rolex, lady's, Datejust automatic is probably about the same size and I can't imagine even getting the back off of one, let alone digging around in it's mechanical innards. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grumpy-old-man:
Originally Posted By wshbrngr:
I wish I had a mens Hamilton. the only Hamilton I have is a '70's ladies sports automatic http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/673/hMzkrF.jpg It's so small, I think it's amazing that they could make an automatic movement so small. It's barely an inch wide including the stem. Minus the stem, it's 7/8" wide. I have quite a few vintage ladies watches I picked up for next to nothing, unfortunately, my wife won't wear them because they are too small for her to read. :) The Bulova automatics are smaller. That's a nice watch. I amazes me that the watch makers are able to pack so much into such a small package. Moreover, somebody has to make all of those microscopic parts. A Rolex, lady's, Datejust automatic is probably about the same size and I can't imagine even getting the back off of one, let alone digging around in it's mechanical innards. I find all automatic watches fascinating, used to be those were all I was interested in collecting up. I have a few wind-up watches and a couple of the electric timex's |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 4:31:50 PM EDT
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I've liked the automatics for many years. Then, I discovered automatics with the chronograph complication.
I only have one auto/chron at the moment, and my other chrono is an Omega Speedmaster Professional. The SMP is manual wind, no date, but I just couldn't resist such a classic. I'm looking forward to the re-issue of an updated, Zodiac Seawolf. Automatic, date, wind & hack. It should be released in the Spring or early Summer. I have an original Seawolf that I bought in the '60s (pictures posted in this forum) and would like to see something similar back in my watch rotation (such as it is). |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 10:37:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
Just be advised, if my wife ever came into contact with that small mens Hamilton you posted, it would probably disappear when she left.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
Originally Posted By Revelation68:
<snip> Very cool watch! I have bought several for my girlfriend that are tiny and she wears them often. Even on of those automatic Bulova...
Right now she has a 60's handwind Gruen and Elgin , a '66 Bulova automatic, and a 70's Hamilton Electronic. I'll have to post pictures sometime. Just be advised, if my wife ever came into contact with that small mens Hamilton you posted, it would probably disappear when she left.
Haha! Sounds like we need to find her one. I've helped procure for people before...don't put it past me.
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Posted: 11/5/2014 10:48:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Revelation68]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlCrow:
Where is Revelation68??? I haven't seen him around here lately. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlCrow:
Where is Revelation68??? I haven't seen him around here lately. Originally Posted By grumpy-old-man: 
Wondered that myself. He always makes great contributions to the threads, and has some very interesting watches. He's an accountant, maybe he's busy with end-of-the month books, or getting ready for tax time. Sorry, guys! Grumpy was dead on... Been working on Texas Combined franchise tax return (which includes ~ 100 companies in the filing) and all sorts of stuff. And here I thought only the IRS really "cared"... "If you think no one cares, try not paying your taxes." Thanks, my friends! 
So here you go; my affinity for 1959 Bulovas is on display (I have this black dial variant, as well): 
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Posted: 11/5/2014 11:02:59 AM EDT
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I was worried, thought the IRS took you away.
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Posted: 11/5/2014 11:11:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlCrow:
I was worried, thought the IRS took you away. Not yet, at least! The IRS has been too busy being taken away, themselves... http://m.eagletribune.com/news/cops-irs-worker-tried-bribes-after-drunken-arrest-at-steelers/article_f50dc2a7-4ea0-5d75-ac02-3765eb452113.html?mode=jqm
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Posted: 11/11/2014 12:04:11 PM EDT
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OK, this thread has been quiet too long.
This was my dad's pocket watch. When he was a blue collar guy, working in a factory, it was a good idea not to wear any sort of jewelery. However, it was nice to know what time it was. Thus, the pocket watch. The WESTCLOX Pocket Bens weren't the most sophisticated time pieces in the world, but they worked, were fairly rugged and were very inexpensive. Every-so-often, dad's watch would quit running or get badly damaged. These watches weren't really meant to be repaired, just replaced, and were often called "Dollar Watches". When it was watch shopping time, my brothers and I would pool our meager resources and it was my duty to walk a couple blocks to the local drug store where a replacement Pocket Ben could be had for the princely sum of $3.00 + tax. We'd make a big production out of presenting dad with his new watch, and all was right with the world. This is the last pocket watch dad carried. After he was promoted to supervision, he spent less and less time on the shop floor and eventually switched to a wrist watch. The watch still runs and keeps good time. Somebody with decent hearing could probably hear it tick from across the room. I, on the other hand, have to hold it up to my "good" ear in order to hear it. I snagged the movement picture from the web, but I believe it's typical of the movements used in this model watch. As you can see, it was designed to be cheap to build, but not repaired.  " />
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Posted: 11/11/2014 12:37:13 PM EDT
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That's a nice Pocket Ben, a Style 6 made 1960-1980 (if luminous dial: 1960 - early 1980s , non-luminous dial: 1969 - early 1980s), with the sweep seconds hand.
I have a collection of Pocket Bens and other brands that use basically the very same movement. Ingraham made a Biltmore that has the very same movement except they used more brass parts. I have a few other brands that I can't remember right now. You are correct, they aren't "made to" be repaired. The reason other than low cost to just buy a new one was the way they were made. Most versions do not have screws holding the movement plates together, rather they press the posts between the plates making disassemble difficult. But, not impossible. I work on them since I enjoy doing what others will not. This one had a totally shattered main spring, it's running now. I replaced the main spring and gave the movement a good cleaning in the ultrasonic.  I don't have a picture of the other side of the movement, this is the front (under the dial side).   |
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Posted: 11/11/2014 2:05:55 PM EDT
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A non-luminous dial on the Pocket Ben. Probably purchased for my dad by my younger brothers when I was in the army.
Don't think that dad started to make the transition to a wrist watch until 1970 or so. I have another Pocket Ben that belonged to my late father-in-law. Unfortunately, that one doesn't run. Has to be older than my dad's, in that the FIL died in '67. Nice to see that you can resurrect the old bargain watches. You must really love a challenge! ETA: That Biltmore looks like it may have been a bit more upscale than the Pocket Ben. |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 9:28:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Revelation68]
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Love the "value" pocket watches!
Definitely in the same vein as the Timex's I "collect". I'm so hit or miss lately, so to make up for it, here is the piece my girlfriend bought me for my upcoming birthday: 1970 Bulova automatic (probably a " Golden Clipper" but I can't verify that). 
11ANACB motor inside 
I think she did a great job (with no help from me!) I say she's a keeper.
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Posted: 11/12/2014 10:28:07 PM EDT
[#38]
Real nice watch, love the movement.
Yes your girlfriend is a keeper. In 35 years my wife has bought me one watch...that was 36 years ago, before we were married. But I must give my wife credit, she never once complained about the all the guns I have brought home or any other infliction I was suffering from over the years. Well once she came into the garage when I had all my fishing poles out at once. I saw her counting...then she just said "45 fishing poles...really???". Then she went back into the house. Good woman. |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 11:59:52 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlCrow:
Real nice watch, love the movement. Yes your girlfriend is a keeper. In 35 years my wife has bought me one watch...that was 36 years ago, before we were married.
But I must give my wife credit, she never once complained about the all the guns I have brought home or any other infliction I was suffering from over the years. Well once she came into the garage when I had all my fishing poles out at once. I saw her counting...then she just said "45 fishing poles...really???". Then she went back into the house. Good woman. Haha! Now that post brought a grin to my face.
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Posted: 11/13/2014 10:50:59 AM EDT
[#40]
Thankfully, to my wife, a gun is a gun and a watch is a watch.
I've had to make a point of mentioning a new acquisition. |
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Posted: 11/13/2014 10:53:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: grumpy-old-man]
[#41]
Nice old Bulova!
Yes, GF is a keeper! |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 12:04:14 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grumpy-old-man:
Nice old Bulova! Yes, GF is a keeper! Thank you, sir! I appreciate it...and I agree! |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 12:18:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/14/2014 9:31:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: OlCrow]
[#44]
Interesting Elgin watch...clock.
I have been trying to determine what N.A.C.J. stands for but haven't tracked it down. There is a modern NACJ that stands for Nevada Attorneys for Criminal Justice but it wasn't established until 1989. I thought it might be something like National Association of Certified Jewelers but could not find anything like that. I called it a watch/clock because it's a desk clock but the movement is actually a large pocket watch movement. Without seeing it I'll guess it is a 471, size 37, 7 jewel with two main springs so it would run 8 days. If you open up the back, most likely it screws off, and give me the serial number I can tell you for sure what it is. Here's one that I own out of it's original mount which I have.  The movement, it is a large pocket watch movement more than a clock. They also used these as automobile clocks back in those days. They were an add on since most cars didn't come with clocks from the factory.  Here's a few pics of your clock in it's original mounting.   |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 10:59:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Revelation68]
[#45]
Very cool clocks there! Pretty awesome, if you ask me...
And, per a quick google search, I'm going to guess... Nevada Attorneys for Criminal Justice?
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Posted: 11/14/2014 11:26:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: OlCrow]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Revelation68: Very cool clocks there! Pretty awesome, if you ask me... And, per a quick google search, I'm going to guess... Nevada Attorneys for Criminal Justice? So...you didn't read my post? "Nevada Attorneys for Criminal JusticeThe Nevada Attorneys for Criminal Justice (NACJ) was established in 1989. NACJ seeks to protect federal and state constitutional rights and to improve the quality and administration of justice for those accused of crimes." |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 12:40:14 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlCrow:
Interesting Elgin watch...clock. I have been trying to determine what N.A.C.J. stands for but haven't tracked it down. There is a modern NACJ that stands for Nevada Attorneys for Criminal Justice but it wasn't established until 1989. I thought it might be something like National Association of Certified Jewelers but could not find anything like that. I called it a watch/clock because it's a desk clock but the movement is actually a large pocket watch movement. Without seeing it I'll guess it is a 471, size 37, 7 jewel with two main springs so it would run 8 days. If you open up the back, most likely it screws off, and give me the serial number I can tell you for sure what it is. Here's one that I own out of it's original mount which I have. http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/ElginDeskClock007.jpg The movement, it is a large pocket watch movement more than a clock. They also used these as automobile clocks back in those days. They were an add on since most cars didn't come with clocks from the factory. http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/ElginDeskClock010.jpg Here's a few pics of your clock in it's original mounting. http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/Elgin8dayNACJ.jpg http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/Elgin8dayNACJ2.jpg Thanks for the info. That stand! Must have one!
Here are pics of the movement/case 
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Posted: 11/14/2014 12:54:30 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
Thanks for the info. That stand! Must have one!
Here are pics of the movement/case http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=70320 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=70319 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
Originally Posted By OlCrow:
Interesting Elgin watch...clock. I have been trying to determine what N.A.C.J. stands for but haven't tracked it down. There is a modern NACJ that stands for Nevada Attorneys for Criminal Justice but it wasn't established until 1989. I thought it might be something like National Association of Certified Jewelers but could not find anything like that. I called it a watch/clock because it's a desk clock but the movement is actually a large pocket watch movement. Without seeing it I'll guess it is a 471, size 37, 7 jewel with two main springs so it would run 8 days. If you open up the back, most likely it screws off, and give me the serial number I can tell you for sure what it is. Here's one that I own out of it's original mount which I have. http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/ElginDeskClock007.jpg The movement, it is a large pocket watch movement more than a clock. They also used these as automobile clocks back in those days. They were an add on since most cars didn't come with clocks from the factory. http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/ElginDeskClock010.jpg Here's a few pics of your clock in it's original mounting. http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/Elgin8dayNACJ.jpg http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/Elgin8dayNACJ2.jpg Thanks for the info. That stand! Must have one!
Here are pics of the movement/case http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=70320 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=70319 According to this site it is: WATCH INFORMATION Elgin Serial Number : 30466327 Production Year :1928 Size : 37s Jewels : 7 jewels Grade : 471 Model : 1 Run Quantity : 9000 Production Dates : 1921 to 1937 Total Grade Production : 377500 Movement Configuration : Open Face Movement Setting : Pendant Wind and Set Movement Finish : Flat/Matte Nickel Finish Plate : 3/4 Plate Barrel : Going Barrel Adjusted : No |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 2:04:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OlCrow]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds: According to this site it is: WATCH INFORMATION Elgin Serial Number : 30466327 Production Year :1928 Size : 37s Jewels : 7 jewels Grade : 471 Model : 1 Run Quantity : 9000 Production Dates : 1921 to 1937 Total Grade Production : 377500 Movement Configuration : Open Face Movement Setting : Pendant Wind and Set Movement Finish : Flat/Matte Nickel Finish Plate : 3/4 Plate Barrel : Going Barrel Adjusted : No Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds: Originally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds: Originally Posted By OlCrow: Interesting Elgin watch...clock. I have been trying to determine what N.A.C.J. stands for but haven't tracked it down. There is a modern NACJ that stands for Nevada Attorneys for Criminal Justice but it wasn't established until 1989. I thought it might be something like National Association of Certified Jewelers but could not find anything like that. I called it a watch/clock because it's a desk clock but the movement is actually a large pocket watch movement. Without seeing it I'll guess it is a 471, size 37, 7 jewel with two main springs so it would run 8 days. If you open up the back, most likely it screws off, and give me the serial number I can tell you for sure what it is. Here's one that I own out of it's original mount which I have. http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/ElginDeskClock007.jpg The movement, it is a large pocket watch movement more than a clock. They also used these as automobile clocks back in those days. They were an add on since most cars didn't come with clocks from the factory. http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/ElginDeskClock010.jpg Here's a few pics of your clock in it's original mounting. http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/Elgin8dayNACJ.jpg http://4-riders.com/pics/watches/Elgin8dayNACJ2.jpg Thanks for the info. That stand! Must have one!Here are pics of the movement/case http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=70320 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=70319 According to this site it is: WATCH INFORMATION Elgin Serial Number : 30466327 Production Year :1928 Size : 37s Jewels : 7 jewels Grade : 471 Model : 1 Run Quantity : 9000 Production Dates : 1921 to 1937 Total Grade Production : 377500 Movement Configuration : Open Face Movement Setting : Pendant Wind and Set Movement Finish : Flat/Matte Nickel Finish Plate : 3/4 Plate Barrel : Going Barrel Adjusted : No This site that I always use says the same except for the date, this one says it was made in 1927. http://elginwatches.org/cgi-bin/elgin_sn?sn=30466327&action=search Those movements are built like a tank, the thickness of the plates is amazing to me. It looks like yours is running. |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 2:23:01 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OlCrow:
Those movements are built like a tank, the thickness of the plates is amazing to me. It looks like yours is running. Definitely a hefty watch. Yes it runs well. I have been able to adjust it to where it only gains about 6 seconds in a month. Is the watch with stand in the picture yours? |
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